Public Transportation and Intermodal Terminals

[IAMME]

Originally Posted by sinjin

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Anyway, how are the airconditioned jeepneys? Are they plying the streets already?

I saw in TV many years ago that a/c jeepneys were travelling in Manila and charging P5.00 (regular fare then I think was either P2.50 or P3.25).
Here in Iloilo, I saw one travelling the route to Miagao. However, only the front seat was a/c. It looked really classy with its aerodynamic design. I wish I had a pic.

[marites4]

Originally Posted by sinjin

I think Mr. Sy's malls (SM) all have free parking slots. (Correct me if I am wrong)

NO they all charge 40 p > Mr AYAla MR Rockwell. even street level you pay. So if you're a car driver you're goosed. EVen if you just have to stop a quick stop you have to pay 40p. and it's always full and getting out is hell. the only place that's free parking is tiendesitas.

[sandrin]

I had a separate conversation with Fil-Ams who went on vacation in Bulacan, Cavite and other provinces. They all loathed the noise pollution coming from tricycles. They said they couldn't sleep well even though they stayed with relatives who live far away from the cities. That's the main complaint of the ones that stayed in the province. The ones that stayed in the cities complain of trash, traffic and air & noise pollution.

If you want to make the Philippines a retirement haven for balikabayans, better start improving the flow of traffic, drastically decrease air pollution & noise pollution (from tricycles), and eliminate trash and bubblegum pollution. Oh and not to forget billboard pollution/eyesore.

[marites4]

noise pollution is nothing, you're lucky if you don't die from lung cancer after going deaf. And take note there isn't a few of them there's a legion of them plying the inner streets. Well you have to go through the inner streets to get to the main streets. I commiserate with the drivers as it is their livelyhood but now that the hyped up budget surplus is available for infrastructure they should hire all the drivers to work as construction workers like what Roosevelt did. That is if they're serious about us attaining developed status in next century. No pain , no gain as they say. They really have to instill discipline to the drivers that is what's hampering our growth . How can anybody think of investing or doing business or visiting when it takes you the practically the whole day to get anything done coupled with the hot weather it's a recipe for hell. Are they really serious about the retirement thing or another lip service.
Politicians don't care because they have a million errand boys to do things for them. Everything is really inefficient, the people are so used to the system of things that you need a strong leader to whip them all into place. local pinoys really have some bad habits that need to be changed , many are lazy. politicians don't care because they buy properties in the US.

[Sinjin P.]

Originally Posted by marites4

NO they all charge 40 p > Mr AYAla MR Rockwell. even street level you pay. So if you're a car driver you're goosed. EVen if you just have to stop a quick stop you have to pay 40p. and it's always full and getting out is hell. the only place that's free parking is tiendesitas.

Oh really? I thought all SM parking areas were free of charge. Well if that's the case, I'll have to settle with Festival Supermall, by far, the mall offering the best convenience

On these tricycles, jeepneys and pedicabs, I can't say anything. Like they keep on complaining that they earn low yet they don't know how to follow traffic and city rules (e.g. jeepneys beating the red light; pedicabs and tricycles parking on sidewalks)... Although these unique forms of transportation also serve as tourist spots (e.g. I see a lot of Japanese and Chinese here enjoying their jeepney rides), their negative side prevails.

[Lili]

Eh kasi, "basta driver sweet lover". Yan ang sabi nila. Kaya pala maraming drivers, maraming asawa. Oh oh. I am now veering towards the controversial locked Population thread.

Pollution na pala topic.

[habagatcentral1]

Well, then we must do something to alleviate the transport segment because IMO, it would take years or even decades to completely eradicate tricycles, pedicabs and most of all jeepneys in every Philippine city. Filipinos have to be re-oriented to a new system of transportation and not only the drivers that will be affected but the rest of the Filipino public.

Iloilo for example was crippled when there was a transport strike back in 2003 when almost 90% of the jeepneys city or provincial ceased their operations. Those who have work back then were forced to pay an expensive fare thru taxis.

IMO, if we want to reform our transport sector, this must be done carefully and gradually. It is one of the most sensitive sectors of our society and economy.

[marites4]

well if other countries can do it , I don't see why we can't. It just has to be more organized and they have to limit them if they can't be 100 percent phased out. It's not like they'll phase them out without a very well thought out contingency plan. It is so chaotic driving in Metro manila makes you want to pull your hair out. Everything is so disorganized I have never seen such chaos in driving in any other countries. How much really to invest on a good set of traffic lights? If they can get an increase in their pork barrel can't they allot some of that on good sets of traffic lights that actually work. Cars turn from the outer lane, motor bikes everywhere. two way becomes one way in the middle of the street without a sign. Nobody follows the signs and rules and then the MMDA , baranggay tanod or whoever the kotong cop of the day is have the nerve to issue you a ticket for breaking a traffic rule. WHAT RULE? It's a simple thing install order and things will work. Can you imagine adding another 12 million people in 20 years in Metro Manila without a semblance of order?

[Sinjin P.]

^ Yeah, if not phased out, there has to be some kind of regulation on their number. It is so irritating seeing those tricycles and pedicabs queueing on their parking area (the sidewalk)... Hmm, kumikita pa kaya sila ng sapat para ipakain sa kanilang mga pamilya? I'm not a fan of monopoly but this is too much, dapat bawas-bawasan na sila

[habagatcentral1]

There may be chances of doing it first in the urban areas, especially MCD (Manila, Cebu & Davao) and other major Philippine cities. Feasible studies must be done with the backing of certain institutions and of the government. "Sino pang magtutulungan, kundi tayo-tayo rin"

But for rural areas and small cities, it is deemed to be impossible to implement within the decade IMO.

But in fairness for Cebu, I find the codes (17C, 04C, 13C, 12L) very convenient if you stayed in Cebu for a while. I find it confusing back then, but now its embeded in my GPS system in the brain, hehehe!

[Sinjin P.]

^ Yeah, I find them convenient if you master them. Isn't any other city/province in the Philippines having the same or at least a similar system? As far as I know, the jeepneys in Olongapo are color-coded too depending on their route

To be guided, here are some jeepney routes in Cebu:

01B
URGELLO - COLON URGELLO - LEON KILAT - PLAZA INDEPENDENCIA - PIER 1 - PIER 2 - PIER 3 - PIER 4 - WHITE GOLD - MJ CUENCO - BONIFACIO - SANCIANGKO - URGELLO

01C
PRIVATE - COLON PRIVATE - LEON KILAT - COLON - PLAZA - PIER 1 - PIER 2 - PIER 3 - PIER 4 - WHITE GOLD CLUB - MJ CUENCO - BONIFACIO - SANCIANGKO - PRIVATE

01I
PRIVATE - COLON - PIER - SM - AYALA SM - AYALA - AYALA ACCESS ROAD - HIPPODROMO - MJ CUENCO - BONIFACIO - SANCIANGKO - LEON KILAT - P DEL ROSARIO EXTENSION (PRIVATE) - LEON KILAT - COLON - MABINI - PLAZA INDEPENDENCIA - PIER 1 - PIER 2 - PIER 3 - PIER 4 - SM

02B
SOUTH BUS TERMINAL - COLON SOUTH BUS TERMINAL - CCMC - PANGANIBAN - COLON - PLAZA INDEPENDENCIA - PIER 1 - PIER 2 - PIER 3 - PIER 4 - WHITE GOLD - MJ CUENCO - BONIFACIO - SANCIANGKO - SOUTH BUS TERMINAL

03B
MABOLO - JONES - CARBON PANAGDAIT - MABOLO - AYALA - GORORDO - MANGO - FUENTE - JONES - CARBON

03Q
AYALA - SM AYALA - JUAN LUNA - SM - JUAN LUNA - AYALA

04L
LAHUG - AYALA - SM AYALA - JUAN LUNA - SM - JUAN LUNA - SALINAS - JY SQUARE - GORORDO - UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES - ESCARIO - AYALA

04M
LAHUG - AYALA VIA UP JYS AYALA - ESCARIO - GORORDO - UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES - JY SQUARE - SALINAS - WATERFRONT - [U TURN] - SALINAS - JY SQUARE - UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES - GORORDO - ESCARIO - AYALA

06C
GUADALUPE - CARBON GUADALUPE - M VELEZ - CAPITOL - FUENTE - JONES - PLARIDEL - CARBON - MJ CUENCO - JONES - FUENTE - CAPTOL - M VELEZ - GUADALUPE

06D
SINGSON - MAGALLANES GUADALUPE - A ABELLANA - M VELEZ - CAPITOL - FUENTE - JONES - PLARIDEL - MAGALLANES - CITY HALL - MCWD - [U-TURN]

06H
GUADALUPE - AYALA - SM GUADALUPE - ENGLISH - V RAMA - P RODRIGUEZ - FUENTE - MANGO - WHITE GOLD CLUB - SM - JUAN LUNA - AYALA - ESCARIO - CAPITOL - M VELEZ - GUADALUPE

08G
ALUMNOS - COLON - MANALILI ALUMNOS - C PADILLA - COLON - MANALILI - C PADILLA - ALUMNOS

09F
BASAK - PLARIDEL - JUNQUERA - MANALILI BASAK - BACALSO - SANTO ROSARIO - JUNQUERA - COLON - MANALILI - PLARIDEL - MAGALLANES

10M
BULACAO - PARDO - COLON - SM SM - WHITE GOLD CLUB - MJ CUENCO - LEGASPI - COLON - BORROMEO - PANGANI8BAN - BACALSO - MAMBALING - BASAK - PARDO - BULACAO / U-TURN - PARDO - BASAK - BACALSO - PANGANIBAN - COLON - SULUETA - MJ CUENCO - T PADILLA - NORTH PUJ TERMINAL - SM

11D
INAYAWAN - COLON - MANALILI INAYAWAN - PARDO - BACALSO - C PADILLA - COLON - MABINI - MAGALLANES - TABUAN - BACALSO - PARDO - INAYAWAN

12G
LABANGON - COLON - SM SM - RECLA - PIER 4 - T PADILLA - MJ CUENCO - BONIFACIO - SANCIANGKO - CCMC -KATIPUNAN - TABUAN - T PADILLA - LEON KILAT - MAGALLANES - PLAZA INDEPENDENCIA - PIER 1 - PIER 2 - PIER - 3 - PIER 4 - SM

12L
LABANGON - AYALA VIA ESCARIO CAPITOL AYALA - ESCARIO - CAPITOL - M VELEZ - BANAWA - KATIPUNAN - PUNTA PRINCESA - TRES DE ABRIL - SALVADOR - BANAWA - M VELEZ - CAPITOL - ESCARIO - AYALA

13B
TALAMBAN - CARBON CANDUMAN - TINTAY - TALAMBAN - FOODLAND - COUNTRY MALL - BANILAD - ARCH REYES - AYALA - GORORDO - ECHAVEZ - SIKATUNA - RAMOS - JUNQUERA - COLON - MANALILI - CARBON - JAKOSALEM - SIKATUNA - ECHAVEZ - GORORDO - AYALA - ARCH REYES - BANILAD - COUNTRY MALL - FOODLAND - TALAMBAN - TINTAY - CANDUMAN

13C
TALAMBAN - COLON TINTAY - TALAMBAN - FOODLAND - COUNTRY MALL - BANILAD - ARCH REYES - AYALA - GORORDO - ECHAVEZ - SIKATUNA - COLON - JONES - METRO GAISANO - BORROMEO - PANGANIBAN - SOUTH BUS TERMINAL - P DEL ROSARIO - MJ CUENCO - AYALA ACCESS ROAD - AYALA - ARCH REYES - BANILAD - COUNTRY MALL - FOODLAND - TALAMBAN - TINTAY

14B
CARBON - CAPITOL - COMP MARTINES NOT - SURE - PLS - WAIT - TILL - NEXT - UPDATE

14D
AYALA - COLON AYALA - ESCARIO - CAPITOL SITE - OSMENA - FUENTE - RAMOS - JUNQUERA - COLON - MANALILI - METRO GAISANO - JONES - FUENTE - ESCARIO - AYALA

21B
IBABAO - MANDAUE - AYALA - JONES IBABAO - MAGUIKAY - HIGHWAY - MABOLO - JUAN LUNA - AYALA - GORORDO - MANGO - FUENTE - JONES - PLAZA INDEPENDENCIA - RECLA - WHITE GOLD TERMINAL - SM - JUAN LUNA - HIGHWAY - IBABAO

22B
MANDAUE - OUANO - AYALA - JONES OUANO WHARF - MANDAUE CITY HALL - IMMACULADA - HIGHWAY - JUAN LUNA - AYALA - GORORDO - MANGO - FUNETE - OSMENA - JONES - METRO GAISANO - SANTO NINO - PLAZA INDEPENDENCIA - MJ CUENCO - HIGHWAY - SAN MIGUEL - OUANO WHARF

23D
MEPZA - CEBU CORDOVA - PUNTA ENGANO - MEPZA - PUSOK - OLD BRIDGE - AC CORTES - HIGHWAY - JUAN LUNA - SM - NORTH BUS TERMINAL - SM - JUAN LUNA - HIGHWAY - AC CORTES - OLD BRIDGE - PUSOK - CORDOVA - PUNTA ENGANO

24A
CONSOLACION - NORTH PUJ TERMINAL CONSOLACION - HIGHWAY - JUAN LUNA - WHITE GOLD CLUB - NORTH PUJ TERMINAL - MANGO - MJ CUENCO - AYALA ACCESS ROAD - AYALA - JUAN LUNA - HIGHWAY - CONSOLACION

27
SABANG - DANAO - CEBU DANAO - CONSOLACION - SUPER METRO - UN AVENUE - PLARIDEL - RECLA - SM - NORTH PUJ TERMINAL

41
TABUNOK - COLON TABUNOK - MAMBALING - C PADILLA - PASIL - C PADILLA - GAISANO SOUTH - COLON - BORROMEO - TABUAN - BACALSO - MAMBALING - TABUNOK

62B
PIT-OS - TALAMBAN - COLON PIT-OS - BACAYAN - TALAMBAN - FOODLAND - COUNTRY MALL - BANILAD - ARCH REYES - AYALA - GORORDO - ECHAVEZ - SIKATUNA - MANALILI - CARBON - D JAKOSALEM - P DEL ROSARIO - IMUS - AYALA ACCESS ROAD - ARCH REYES - AYALA

From 41 thru 46, the route is essentially the same except that the starting point is further and further south along the coastal highway. For example, while 41 starts in Tabunok, 43 starts in Minglanilla, 44 starts in Naga, 45 in San Fernando, and 46 in Carcar. I assume 42 starts somewhere between Tabunok and Minglanilla.

[IAMME]

Wow... did you do that from memory? I wish you posted that a few months back when I almost got lost somewhere in the middle of cebu.

[g0Rs]

I stayed in Cebu for 6 years...still I can't memorized the jeepney routes.hehehe. i prefer color-coded...much convenient and easier to remember...

[IAMME]

With all those routes, you'll never come up with enough distinct colors..
Anyway, so shall we start phasing out these vehicles? Let's start with the trikes. Give them 10-15 years to shift their livelihood. Besides, within that span, their tricycles will wear out. Within 5 years, tricycle production must cease. (I hope I don't get shot for this)

[habagatcentral1]

If Sinjin posted some Cebu's jeepney routes, here's for Iloilo City

LA RUTA ILONGGA

Iloilo City Jeepneys Street Guide
(as according to street names and certain landmarks)

First timers in Iloilo may seem to get confused in the jeepneys since there are no placards in the windshield indicating places that the jeepney served in its routes and instead a permanent sticker with the name of the jeepney line is indicated.

This guide should be a remedy for confusion in the streets of Iloilo.

Villa
Villa Arevalo District (Villa Plaza. Quezon-Avaceña-Molo Plaza-MH Del Pilar-Gen Luna-Iznart-JMBasa-Iznart-Ledesma-Valeria-GenLuna-to Villa by same route)

Jaro CPU
Lopez-Jaena-Jaro Plaza-E.Lopez-Luna-Bonifacio Drive-Arroyo Fountain-Iznart-JM Basa-Fort San Pedro-Duran-Santo Domingo-Plaza Libertad-to Jaro via same route)

Jaro Liko
LopezJaena-Jaro Plaza-E.Lopez-Luna-Bonifacio-General Luna-Jalandoni (San Agustin)-DeLeon/Rizal-Super-Aldeguer-JM Basa/Muelle Loney-Bonifacio Drive - back to Jaro via same route)

Jaro CPU-Ungka UI
Same route as Jaro CPU but terminal is at Ungka/UI Pavia, Iloilo and will pass by Christ the King Cemetery, Iloilo Central Line Terminals and CocaCola Phils Iloilo Plant

Ungka UI-Tanza (rare)
Ungka Jaro. Sambag-Dungon Diversion Rd. Cuartero. Diversion Rd. SM City. Infante (same route as Leganes Hi-Way SM within City Proper) and back to Diversion Rd then proceed to Ungka.

Jaro Plaza-Mandurriao
(Route 1 Jaro Plaza/Cathedral. El98/Huwebesan/. Cuartero Diversion. Airport. Q Abeto (West Visayas Medical Center). Mandurriao Proper
(Route 2 SM City. Diversion Road. Bakhaw. El98/Huwebesan. Plaza Jaro.

Bito-on-Jaro Plaza
Jaro Plaza, Cubay, Bito-on/PISAY (Philippine Science High West Visayas) and back

Mandurriao SM
Mandurriao District Proper (different routes) - Airport - Cuartero Jaro - Diversion Road (Bakhaw/EL98 Juncrtion), SM City, Diversion Road, General Luna, Arroyo Fountain. Iznart. Plazoleta Gay. JM Basa. Plaza Libertad. Rizal. Iznart. Ledesma. Fuentes. Delgado. Jalandoni (san agustin). General Luna. Diversion Road (SM City). Airport. Mandurriao District

Mandurriao Molo (Jibao-an)
Mandurriao District Proper (sometimes from Jibao-an). Plaza Mandurriao. Q Abeto. West Visayas Medical Center. Plaza. Tabucan. Carpenter Bridge. Plaza Molo. MH Del Pilar. General Luna. Arroyo Fountain. Iznart. Plazoleta Gay. JM Basa. Plaza Libertad. Rizal. Iznart. Ledesma. Fuentes. Delgado. Jalandoni (san agustin). General Luna. Diversion Road (SM City). Airport. Mandurriao District

LaPaz
La Paz District Proper (Ledesco Junction/Jereos), Comicion Civil. La Paz Plaza. Huervana. La Paz Market . Luna. Bonifacio Dr. General Luna. Jalandoni (San Agustin). De Leon/Rizal (super). Aldeguer. JM Basa. Iznart. Bonifacio Dr. Huervana straight to Ticud Junction and back to LaPaz Plaza to Jereos.

Lapuz
Lapuz Proper (Jalandoni Estate). Quirino-Lopez Bridge. Arroyo fountain. Iznart. JM Basa. Rizal. Iznart. Aldeguer. JM Basa. Iznart. Quirino Lopez. Lapuz

Barrio Obrero
Barrio Obrero Proper. RoRo Terminal. Same route as Lapuz.

SM City Arrastre
SM City Iloilo. Diversion Road. General Luna. Arroyo fountain, Iznart. Plazoleta Gay. JM Basa. Plaza Libertad. Rizal. Iznart. Plazoleta Gay. Ledesma. Fuentes. Delgado. Infante. Diversion. SM City.

Parola-Super
Parola. Muelle Loney River Wharf. Zamora. Plaza Libertad. Rizal. Iznart. J De Leon. Supermarket (same route going back to Parola).

Molo Baluarte
Baluarte Elementary School. Molo Plaza. General Luna. Arroyo Fountain. Iznart. Plazoleta Gay. JM Basa. Plaza Libertad. Rizal. Iznart. Ledesma. Tanza. Baluarte.

Molo Timawa
Timawa/Fundidor (Tibiao Bakery). Delgado. Jalandoni (San Agustin). De Leon/Rizal "Super". Robinsons. Valeria. Delgado. Timawa.

Calaparan/Villa Beach
From Villa Beach/Yulo Drive Jct passing thru Molo Boulevard. Baluarte. Ledesma.

Oton (Anhawan)
From Oton Poblacion passing by the National Highway and to Mohon-Villa. Villa Plaza. San Antonio (Melocoton). Avaceña. Molo Plaza. MH Del Pilar. General Luna. Quezon. J De Leon/Rizal. Valeria. General Luna. (same route out coming in to City Proper)

Oton Derecho
From Oton Botong/Oton-Tigabauan border. Trapiche. Oton Proper (same route as of Oton Anhawan)

Leganes (Hi-way SM)
From Leganes Proper. North Line Terminal. Balantang. McArthur Highway. Tabuc Suba. Simon Ledesma. Lopez Jaena. Plaza Jaro. El98/Huwebesan/Desemparados. Diversion Rd. SM City. Infante. Ledesma. Mabini. J De Leon. Valeria. Delgado. Jalandoni. General Luna. Diversion Rd. Jalandoni (Jaro). Comicion Civil. Washington St. Tabuc Suba and back to Leganes

Leganes (LaPaz)
From Leganes Proper. North Line Terminal. Balantang. McArthur Highway. Tabuc Suba. Simon Ledesma. Lopez Jaena. Plaza Jaro. Comicion Civil. ISAT. LaPaz Plaza. Huervana. Magdalo. Comicion Civil. Plaza Jaro. Tabuc Suba and back to Leganes

Santa Barbara (Hi-Way SM)
From Santa Barbara Proper. Bangga Dama. Cabugao Sur. Pavia Proper. Aganan. Ungka. Sambag Diversion Rd. Dungon. Cuartero. Diversion Rd. SM City. General Luna. Mabini. Delgado. Jalandoni. General Luna (same route out coming in to City Proper)

Santa Barbara (LaPaz)
From Santa Barbara Proper. Bangga Dama. Cabugao Sur. Pavia Proper. Aganan. Ungka. Sambag. Lopez Jaena. Plaza Jaro. Comicion Civil. ISAT. LaPaz Plaza. Huervana. Magdalo. Comicion Civil. Plaza Jaro. Lopez Jaena and back to Santa Barbara.

(Kon may kulang pa, palihug pakidugangan. Thanks!)

[IAMME]

Oh my, you must travel a lot. Even if I'm from Iloilo City, I think I'll be printing this guide and keep it in my wallet. thanks a lot!

[Sinjin P.]

@IAMME: I got those from Istorya.Net.
@g0Rs: The alphanumeric codes are really very convenient for locals here s

[IAMME]

Overloaded jeepney in Iloilo


Overloaded tricycle in Iloilo

[Sinjin P.]

^ Wow, is that a usual sight?

[IAMME]

Nope, not in the city. Overloading is not allowed. But in some towns, it is a common scene, especially during rush hours.