daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Railways

Railways (Inter)national commuter and freight trains



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old November 7th, 2010, 09:45 PM   #521
Alseimik
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Copenhagen
Posts: 250
Likes (Received): 16

I hope i'm not a poor student, when the trains starts running through this!
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
Alseimik no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old November 7th, 2010, 10:43 PM   #522
Andres_Low
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 79
Likes (Received): 1

It´s just brilliant, it is really moving to see this historical event, all the hard work done the last decades... congrats to the swiss people, makes one feel so proud to be european.
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
Andres_Low no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 11th, 2010, 01:22 AM   #523
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

Special page son Herrenknecht's (the manufacturer of the TBMs) webiste: http://www.herrenknecht.com/projects...se-tunnel.html
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 16th, 2010, 01:59 PM   #524
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coccodrillo View Post
Opened:
- Lötschberg Base, 35 km, Alps, Switzerland (but quite useless regarding gradients as there is still the Simplon ramp)
- Guadarrama, 28 km, Sierra de Guadarrama, pure HSL
- Eurotunnel/Channel Tunnel, 50 km, undersea, United Kingdom-France
- Laerdal, 24.5 km, Scandinavian mountains, Norway, road

Under construction:
- Gotthard Base, 57 km, Alps, Switzerland
- Pajares, 25 km, Cordillera Cantabrica, Spain (+ 20 km of others tunnels, that is 45 km underground out of 50 km of new line)

Advanced planning stage (exploratory tunnels and acces shafts), but construction still uncertain
- Brenner Base, 55 km, Alps, Austria-Italy
- Fréjus Base, 57 km, Alps, France-Italy (also known as Mont Cenis Base, Mont d'Ambin Base, or Lyon-Turin)

Planned
- Semmering Base, 27 km, Alps, Austria
- Koralm, 27 km, Alps, Austria
- Traversée Centrale, around 40 km, Pyrenees, Spain-France (the less likely to be built in the near future)
- Gibraltar tunnel, 40 km, undersea, Spain-Morocco (even less likely but an exploratory tunnel has already been done)

(the adjective "base" is used where there is already a "summit" tunnel, even if on the Brenner there is no summit tunnel, but the new is called "base", and even if there is already a short 3 km tunnel on the Pajares line - but I don't know if this tunnel (called Perruca) is exactly on the summit or if the summit is elsewhere)
To these we have now to add the second Guanjiao tunnel in China, 32.6 km under construction at an altitude of 3.400 metres.

http://www.cwmags.com/November-09/basic/page17.php

http://www.putzmeister.de/cps/rde/xc...6_ENU_HTML.htm
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 16th, 2010, 03:43 PM   #525
yaohua2000
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 453
Likes (Received): 7

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coccodrillo View Post
To these we have now to add the second Guanjiao tunnel in China, 32.6 km under construction at an altitude of 3.400 metres.

http://www.cwmags.com/November-09/basic/page17.php

http://www.putzmeister.de/cps/rde/xc...6_ENU_HTML.htm
And here is the map of the current old Guanjiao Tunnel:

http://osm.org/go/5Thxql5--
yaohua2000 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 2nd, 2010, 09:58 PM   #526
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

Two long articles about the GBT and CBT: http://www.tunnel-online.info/en/iss...04_133044.html (in English and German)

The second of a series of three books about the project: http://www.alptransit.ch/de/news/art...nels-der-welt/ (I suppose it will published only in German and Italian; the third and last book will be published after the opening)

Finally, the usual monthly update:

Quote:
Status of Work on the Gotthard and Ceneri

02.12.2010

As of December 1, 2010, of the total of 151.84 km of tunnels, galleries and passages of the Gotthard Base Tunnel, 150.4 km, or 99%, had been excavated. The total amount driven in November 2010 was 531 m.

Of the total of 39.78 km of the Ceneri Base Tunnel, at the end of November 2010, 10.46 km, or 26.3%, had been excavated.
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 5th, 2011, 05:43 PM   #527
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

Quote:
Status of Work on the Gotthard and Ceneri

05.01.2011

As of January 1, 2011, of the total of 151.84 km of tunnels, galleries and passages of the Gotthard Base Tunnel, 150.49 km, or 99.1%, had been excavated. The total amount driven in December 2010 was 113 m.

Of the total of 39.78 km of the Ceneri Base Tunnel, at the end of December 2010, 10.82 km, or 27.2%, had been excavated.
http://www.alptransit.ch/en/news/art...5/bezeichnung/
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 5th, 2011, 08:19 PM   #528
chornedsnorkack
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,974
Likes (Received): 388

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coccodrillo View Post
Where are the 1350 m not dug yet?
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
chornedsnorkack no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old January 5th, 2011, 09:01 PM   #529
Momo1435
-----アンジュルム-----
 
Momo1435's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: アルフェナンデンライン
Posts: 35,195
Likes (Received): 62891

Quote:
Originally Posted by chornedsnorkack View Post
Where are the 1350 m not dug yet?
Look at the "State of excavation" drawing in the link.

The west tunnel still has a bit to go until it will have it's breakthrough.
__________________
Support your Idols
キタ ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ฅ(๑⊙д⊙๑)ฅ!! ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━!!!
Japan Projects & Construction

Highcliff liked this post
Momo1435 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old February 2nd, 2011, 12:06 PM   #530
panda80
Registered User
 
panda80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Braila/Bucharest
Posts: 4,371
Likes (Received): 333

From alptransit.ch:

As of February 1, 2011, of the total of 151.84 km of tunnels, galleries and passages of the Gotthard Base Tunnel, 150.77 km, or 99.3%, had been excavated. The total amount driven in January 2011 was 275 m.

Of the total of 39.78 km of the Ceneri Base Tunnel, at the end of January 2011, 11.36 km, or 28.6%, had been excavated.
__________________
my clinched highways
my flights
my travelogue Now Dresden, Germany
Skilldetector A new HR platform where everything is about your skills!

Highcliff liked this post
panda80 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 2nd, 2011, 10:49 PM   #531
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

Quote:
Status of Work on the Gotthard and Ceneri

02.03.2011

As of March 1, 2011, of the total of 151.84 km of tunnels, galleries and passages of the Gotthard Base Tunnel, 151.256 km, or 99.62%, had been excavated. The total amount driven in February 2011 was 486 m.

Of the total of 39.78 km of the Ceneri Base Tunnel, at the end of February 2011, 11.89 km, or 29.9%, had been excavated.
And an aerial image of the northern part of this part of the new line (around 70 km in total): http://www.alptransit.ch/en/news/art...2/bezeichnung/

The plan is for an entirely new Zürich-Milan railway parallel to the existing one, but the remaining parts will not be built anytime soon.
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 3rd, 2011, 04:12 PM   #532
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

The 100.000th train crossed the Lötschberg Base Tunnel today, since its opening in June 2007. It carries 80 to 110 trains a day despite its 22 km of single track. As the traffic is higher than that, many trains still run on the old line.

http://www.bls.ch/d/unternehmen/medien-communiques.php
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 4th, 2011, 04:01 PM   #533
gramercy
BANNED
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,823
Likes (Received): 799

what about the second tube

and while we're at it, what about some other tunnels? bellinzona? zimmerberg 2? etc
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
gramercy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 4th, 2011, 06:21 PM   #534
K_
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,744
Likes (Received): 243

Quote:
Originally Posted by gramercy View Post
what about the second tube
There is definitely lobbying going on to have the Lötschberg tunnel expanded. However there are two problems: a) money and b) what will happen once the Gotthard base tunnel opens...

Quote:
and while we're at it, what about some other tunnels? bellinzona? zimmerberg 2? etc
Again, that's mostly a money issue. There are a lot of other projects on the wish lists of the railways and the kantons, and some of them will be untertaken first.

If you can cope with German there is a Wikipedia article that lists all projects, with status and what larger project they're part of.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweiz...enbahnprojekte
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
K_ no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 4th, 2011, 09:50 PM   #535
Deadeye Reloaded
Cold Ass Honkey
 
Deadeye Reloaded's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Göttingen/Lüdenscheid/Rybnik
Posts: 2,330
Likes (Received): 8965

Quote:
Originally Posted by K_ View Post
[...]
If you can cope with German there is a Wikipedia article that lists all projects, with status and what larger project they're part of.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schweiz...enbahnprojekte

Wow ! Very interesting article. Thanks.
__________________
I may not be perfect, but Jesus thinks I´m to die for.
I can't stand auto correct. It's my worst enema!
I often quote myself. I find it adds spice to the conversation.
What Is Love?

Highcliff liked this post
Deadeye Reloaded no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 8th, 2011, 11:32 PM   #536
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

The line between Visp and the bifurcation Lausanne/Lötschberg base tunnel (some 3 km) will soon be extended from 3 to 4 tracks. This will allow retarded northbound trains to wait a slot in the LBT instead of running on the old line (this can cause troubles as some trains have second or third locomotive scheduled only ebtween Domodossola and Brig, and therefore if diverted they have to wait a bank engine).

Together with the extension of some passing loops on the Luino branch it's the only approved AlpTransit project (beside what is already under construction). Also the enlargment of the loading gauge on the Gotthard line may be probable in the next ten years.

The other projects are delayed again and again.
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post

Last edited by Coccodrillo; March 8th, 2011 at 11:39 PM.
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 9th, 2011, 09:31 PM   #537
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

More informations of the new Lötschberg tunnel: http://www.bls.ch/e/unternehmen/download-neatprofil.pdf (changing the URL you can find it in the national languages)
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 10th, 2011, 07:10 PM   #538
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

An unofficial website about the LBT made by one of the workers: http://www.ferden.net/

(Ferden is the location of one of the access tunnels)
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 18th, 2011, 10:57 AM   #539
hhouse
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 189
Likes (Received): 110

According to this source: http://www.luzernerzeitung.ch/zentra...ri/art97,82638 the final break through in the west tube will be on next Wednesday (23th March)!
__________________

Highcliff liked this post
hhouse no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old March 18th, 2011, 12:28 PM   #540
Coccodrillo
Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7,200
Likes (Received): 767

Beside that there are some cross passages to bore. These will take another few days.

Plan of Faido emergency station: http://www.tat-ti.ch/fileadmin/user_...9_15072009.pdf (2.3 MB)
__________________
1.6.2016: Basistunnel!

für Güter die Bahn ~ pour vos marchandises le rail ~ chi dice merci dice ferrovia

Highcliff liked this post
Coccodrillo no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
alps

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 06:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium