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Old December 18th, 2016, 01:57 AM   #1241
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according to wikipedia's figures they carry around 2.4 million passengers/year, whilst the Polybahn's record was 2 million.

I thought the Fun'ambule in Neuchâtel linking the train station with the lake was also up there, by it only carries slightly more than 0.7 million passengers.
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Old December 19th, 2016, 04:37 PM   #1242
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Stadler High Speed Train

The EC250 high-speed electric multiple unit (EMU) developed by Stadler Rail Group, a company based in Switzerland, is the world's first single-decker, low-floor high-speed EMU.
In October 2014, Stadler received a contract from Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) for the delivery of 29 high-speed EC250 EMUs. The contract also includes an option for additional 92 units.
The first EC250 high-speed train was launched at InnoTrans in Berlin, Germany, in September 2016. The new trains are approved for operation in Switzerland, Germany, Austria and Italy.


The high-speed train, named 'Giruno' by SBB, will operate on the line connecting Basel/Zürich with Milan through the Gotthard Base Tunnel. The first train-set will be handed over to SBB in May 2017, while commercial operations are scheduled to begin by the end of 2019.


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Old February 6th, 2017, 10:31 PM   #1243
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Some photos in the wrong thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=2573

Some freight trains runs on the old line during the nights from Saturday to Tuesday (especially Monday/Tuesday), as one tube of the base tunnel is closed for maintenance.

During a problem in the east tube on 6th January, the whole east tube had to be closed. The west tube was used only by as much freight trains as possible, while other freight trains and passenger trains have been diverted on the old line. This because heavier freights trains cannot use the old line without a bank engine, and extra locomotives cannot be found quickly in similar situations (keeping bank engines with their crews ready to go would be economically unviable as they would stay most of the time idle). Bank engines are still needed from Bellinzona to Chiasso, though, and will be partly needed even after the CBT's opening.

Disruption in case of problems in the GBT will be greater in the future, when there will be intermodal trains with the bigger P/C 80/400 loading gauge or double deck passenger trains, as these will not be able to run on the old line, even if bank engines were available.

http://www.sbb.ch/en/group/media/pre...-2-0602_1.html

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Taking stock after 57 days in service: Steady traffic through the Gotthard Base Tunnel.

Scheduled services have been running through the 57-kilometre-long Gotthard Base Tunnel for 57 days now. No fewer than 2816 passengers and 3980 freight trains have passed through the world’s longest railway tunnel during this time. InterCity and EuroCity services have seen demand increase by some 30 percent compared with the same period last year. Operations have been largely free of disruptions. Punctuality on the Gotthard corridor has improved since early December, with the planned reductions in journey times achieved for both freight and passenger services. Nevertheless, there is still work to do in this regard. This will focus on the delays affecting trains coming from Italy and the availability of rolling stock.

The Gotthard Base Tunnel (GBT) has been placed successfully in service. Following intensive testing, the systems and technical installations have now proved themselves robust during normal operation as well. Stability in the national timetable has essentially been maintained. Journey times on the north-south Gotthard corridor are thus 30 minutes shorter than they used to be. Customer punctuality on passenger services on the Gotthard line has improved from 79.6 to 86.8 percent since early December. Connection punctuality in Arth-Goldau has risen from 94.4 to 97.1 percent. Operations are also running steadily on the Gotthard panorama route, with punctuality nearly at 100 percent. As expected, passenger volumes on the panorama route have fallen sharply since the GBT was placed in service as well as being low due to the time of year. Expressed in a different way, fewer than 500 people are travelling between Göschenen and Airolo every day. From April to October an extra train will run between Zurich and Bellinzona and back on the Gotthard panoramic route at weekends and on public holidays. The new “Gotthard Panorama Express” will also operate during this period, taking passengers by boat from Lucerne to Flüelen, where they board the train to continue along the Gotthard panorama route into Ticino, or vice versa. The situation regarding services from Italy remains challenging. The EuroCity trains from Milan are often delayed and depart from Chiasso with an average delay of eight minutes. However, the time lost can generally be made up using the journey time reserves factored in between Chiasso and Arth-Goldau. A total of 43 trains have been cancelled since the timetable change on 11 December 2016, mostly due to vehicle breakdowns. Thanks to the replacement train stationed in Ticino specifically for this purpose, however, the impact on national services has been minimal.

Demand along the Gotthard corridor was encouragingly high over the public holidays, with some 8,800 people passing through the GBT every day on average. This is around 30 percent more than in the same period last year. In some cases the capacity was limited over the public holidays because there were not enough trains available or because system restrictions prevented any additional ones from being put on. In a handful of cases, passengers had to be asked to wait for the next train or were diverted via the Gotthard panoramic route.

SBB is working on solving the challenges posed by any more spikes in capacity utilisation. Very high passenger volumes are expected at Easter, particularly on Zurich–Milan EuroCity trains, meaning that people are also advised to reserve seats on journeys to Ticino (reservations for services within Switzerland can be made at the ticket counter or by calling Rail Service on 0900 300 300). The findings gleaned from the first few weeks of operation will facilitate further improvements to services. Extra staff will also be on hand at Bellinzona and Arth-Goldau stations in future to provide customer information and operational support.

Freight services running on time.

SBB Cargo began its first scheduled freight services through the Gotthard Base Tunnel on11 December 2016. “WLV 2017”, a regular-interval timetable for wagonload freight, was also launched throughout Switzerland at the same time. SBB Cargo is now adapting in line with the increased speed of logistics operations and is serving some places as many as three times a day rather than just once as previously. Train path capacity for freight services along the Gotthard corridor is not yet fully utilised due to the time of year. Demand for transport by rail will increase during warmer season especially in the construction industry. A hundred trains travel through the GBT each day on average. These transport some 41,000 tons of goods daily, saving the equivalent of 3,600 LGV trips. The GBT is also benefiting SBB Cargo’s customers: the time saving of about 30 minutes, for instance, means that PostLogistics can now wait until later to load its postal trains heading to Ticino from the letter centre in Härkingen in the canton of Solothurn. This enables it to switch a large number of night-time LGV journeys to the railway. Freight services will reach their full potential–260 trains per day in each direction and a train length of 750 metres–when the Ceneri Base Tunnel and the 4-metre corridor open in late 2020.

Freight services are essentially running on time and without any recurring delays. Breakdowns affecting several railway companies’ locomotives and alarms in train monitoring systems are still restricting services in isolated cases. The causes are being analysed on an ongoing basis and appropriate corrective action is being taken. The specified timings for passing through the Gotthard Base Tunnel are being kept to and the delays that trains can sometimes incur while approaching the tunnel can usually be partially or even completely made up on their way through. Only a few freight services are still using the Gotthard panoramic route. This mainly happens overnight from Monday to Tuesday, when maintenance work in the tunnel limits its capacity to only one tube.

SBB upgrading the north-south Gotthard corridor.

The new Gotthard Base Tunnel embodies Swiss precision, innovation and reliability. Its opening on 11 December 2016 marked the key milestone for the renovated north-south Gotthard corridor. By the time the Ceneri Base Tunnel and the 4-meter corridor are placed in service in late 2020, some 25 construction projects will have been carried out on the approaches to the two base tunnels between Basel and Chiasso. Using a range of measures relating to rolling stock, construction and operations, SBB will limit the impact on customers as much as possible until the projects are completed.
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Old March 27th, 2017, 10:24 PM   #1244
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A fantastic example of insane bureaucracy: because of the success of the base tunnel coupled with the traditional weekly commuter rush many trains run full. However, these must be diverted over the old line because of bureaucratic safety reasons.

SBB's speaker said that in case of fire such trains would be too overcrowded to be safely evacuated. Everybody in his right mind would understand that a tunnel where the nearest escape route might be 7.5 km* away is more dangerous in case of fire than a tunnel where the farthest escape route is 160 metres away*. Sure, considering the actual risk of fire and the cost to upgrade it, the old Gotthard tunnel can reasonably continue to operate as it is now, however bureaucracy is becoming mad.

*the old tunnel is 15 km long and has no escape routes at all, no sidewalk along the tracks, and just a limited equipment for firefighters, on the other hand the base tunnel has full sidewalks and handrails for all of its length leading to escape routes every ~330 metres and is full any kind of safety equipment. However, because of grandfather rights, running an overcrowded train in the first tunnel is ok, running it in the base tunnel is forbidden.

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Old March 28th, 2017, 01:32 AM   #1246
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Grandfather rights, together with the current "I must have no responsibilities for it" policy, are generating true monsters.
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Old March 28th, 2017, 02:54 AM   #1247
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Uh, Coccodrillo, in your last post, the picture is missing.
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The EC250 high-speed electric multiple unit (EMU) developed by Stadler Rail Group, a company based in Switzerland, is the world's first single-decker, low-floor high-speed EMU.
In October 2014, Stadler received a contract from Swiss Federal Railways (SBB) for the delivery of 29 high-speed EC250 EMUs. The contract also includes an option for additional 92 units.
The first EC250 high-speed train was launched at InnoTrans in Berlin, Germany, in September 2016. The new trains are approved for operation in Switzerland, Germany, Austria and Italy.


The high-speed train, named 'Giruno' by SBB, will operate on the line connecting Basel/Zürich with Milan through the Gotthard Base Tunnel. The first train-set will be handed over to SBB in May 2017, while commercial operations are scheduled to begin by the end of 2019.


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Low-floor at door access or fully low-floor all throughout with those geeky bogies that only require the top of the wheels to take space on the saloon (somehow like trams)?
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Old March 28th, 2017, 06:10 AM   #1249
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At the doors, I suspect.

Those special wheel systems are not suited for high speed.
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They will have low floor only in two coaches designed for passengers on wheelchair (one coach on each side of the restaurant coach). These two coaches for handicapped people will have one door at 55 cm over the top of the rail and one at 76 cm each, because these are the standard heights for station platforms in Switzerland-Italy and Germany-Austria, respectively (although 55 cm is sometimes seen also in Germany and Austria, too). The other doors will require a step to enter the train, although this will be an improvement compared to even the recent the past (25cm platforms + high floor = 4 or 5 steps to board the train).

Anyway, the first low floor HST is the Talgo 350, it is fully low floor but AFAIK is designed for 76 cm high platforms, so it would not be low floor in Switzerland and Italy. Besides that, the Talgo 350 has traction equipment concentrated into two locomotives, while the Giruno has equipment spread along all the train.

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Uh, Coccodrillo, in your last post, the picture is missing.
It was just the newspaper article (in Italian) where I read the news. You have to copy the URL in a new window removing the "REMOVETHIS" part, because tinypicDOTcom name gets automatically censored.
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So the more popular the train becomes the less trains there will be. Makes perfect sense!
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If only the whole of Western Europe had set platform height at 710mm... That is high enough to deter virtually all attempts to cross tracks where not allowed to. And it allows enough space for all stuff under a single level.
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They will have low floor only in two coaches designed for passengers on wheelchair (one coach on each side of the restaurant coach). These two coaches for handicapped people will have one door at 55 cm over the top of the rail and one at 76 cm each, because these are the standard heights for station platforms in Switzerland-Italy and Germany-Austria, respectively (although 55 cm is sometimes seen also in Germany and Austria, too).
Austria has a standard of 55 cm, not 76 cm.
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Track laying has started in the CBT. All works are being carried from north towards the south as this is logistically easier.

The wooden sleepers in the third photo are for a temporary track, the definitive track is ballastless.

http://www.ticinonews.ch/ticino/3974...l-monte-ceneri

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north portal


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Have they stopped diversion of trains with standing passengers to the old Gotthard railway route?
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Have any of you guys from Switzerland come across some of these conspiracy videos on the likes of YouTube?

(Claims that Cern and the GBT are all part of a BIG satanic plot.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKrLO6ADTRo

Christ, they'd actually be funny if they weren't so crazy. Now go back to your devil worshiping ways.
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Have any of you guys from Switzerland come across some of these conspiracy videos on the likes of YouTube?



(Claims that Cern and the GBT are all part of a BIG satanic plot.)

Sadly, yes we did:

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only once or still ocurring?
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I had a read through some of the hysterical comments on the site you linked to. This one really takes the cake:

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