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Old November 5th, 2005, 10:18 PM   #1
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Capital of Skycrapers!

As we all know, there is no one real 'capital' of skyscrapers in the world, but rather several in different categories. Based on my opinion, these are the Skyscraper Capitals, based on each category:


Supertalls:
1.) Chicago
2.) Hong Kong

Highrises:
1.) New York City
2.) Hong Kong

Midrises:
1.) Sao Paulo (obvious first)
2.) Tokyo

Lowrises (5-11 floors):
1.) Paris
2.) London


As you can see, there are many cities that could be viable canidates for the Skyscraper Capital. Given that this is based strictly on one's opinion, what do you think? Is my list a reasonable one? If not, post what you think!
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Old November 5th, 2005, 10:49 PM   #2
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A few days ago, I searched for 100x100 cities (more than 100 buildings, taller than 100m). I don't really remember the exact numbers but it was about:

1. Hong Kong (785)
2. New York (450)
3. Tokyo (289)
4. Chicago (245)
5. Shanghai (175)

(numbers not always correct, but ranking is right)
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Old November 5th, 2005, 11:14 PM   #3
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Emporis is pretty up to date for HK I think.

This is a list of buildings in the New Territories district of HK. Almost 400 buildings over 420 feet in height.
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bo/?id=100118

That page does not include HK island itself or Kowloon
Kowloon: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bo/?id=100115

HK island:http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bo/?id=100112

I would like to suggest that Emporis is inaccurate for Sao Paulo and Shanghai. If you think Shanghai has less (according to Emporis) highrises than Toronto you are out of your mind. Look at any picture of either city and you can see that they go on for miles and miles with skyscrapers everywhere.

Don't tell me that Chicago has more 100m + buildings than Shanghai.
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Old November 5th, 2005, 11:48 PM   #4
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Don't tell me that Chicago has more 100m + buildings than Shanghai.
If I said that I'd be lying to you. Shanghai has WAY more 100+m skyscrapers than Chicago; I think Chicago is the Capital of SUPERTALLS though, with five 300+m skyscrapers and two more on the way.

I think Sao Paulo is the most impressive 'skyscraper city', as it is a sea of tall buildings that stretches to the horizon!
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Old November 5th, 2005, 11:57 PM   #5
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Indeed. Chicago has a slight edge I believe at the arbitrary 300m mark ... 5 to HK's 4. But they are both pretty close in this area because Nina Tower at 319 m is almost done. So it is likely that they will be tied at least for a little while in the near future.

That picture of Shanghai is maybe 1/5th of the city. You can't even see Jin Mao or any of the others on Pudong.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 12:01 AM   #6
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In the future, Dubai will be the supertall capital. There is much more than just Burj Dubai.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 12:20 AM   #7
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supertall capital for sure.
14 UC and App over 300m alone now.
but not overall highrises, there are 100s of 12F+ but the database is not that accurate, also it cannot compete to HK etc.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 12:21 AM   #8
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As a general capital of skyscrapers I'd have to say either NYC or Hong Kong. I think I'll choose NYC though because of its "experience". You know, a capital city doesn't have to be the largest.

As for the capital of supertalls I have to say Chicago. As for Dubai in the future there's no way to tell since we don't have any idea how all those towers will look like together.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 12:25 AM   #9
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but in terms of numbers dubai is unbeatable when it comes to supertall.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 12:46 AM   #10
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I think it's almost impossible to accurately rate cities by numbers alone ( no one really knows how many scrapers in the big scraper cities, always outdated). I think it's the overall impression one gets of the city's scrapers. Also difficult to judge this way because of the angle of the pic and a true reference for aerials. All that said, Sao Paulo is a virtual sea of talls, NYC is the classic King of Scrapers, Hong Kong is a classic beauty (delicacy and strength both), Chicago is the brash younger brother puffing his chest out(and upward), Shanghai and Dubai are aiming to the future and may overtake their taller friends. As far as short skylines which are spread out, let's not forget Washington, DC (hundreds of low rises for a city under 600,000).
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Old November 6th, 2005, 01:07 AM   #11
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Most of these buildings in so-called "skyscraper capitals" are horrible....im looking in the general direction of Asian cities and Sao Paulo. Chicago has the greatest skyline right now. Just wait until Forham Spire, Trump, Waterview...etc.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 01:10 AM   #12
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I agree with what people are saying but I would like to add that Dubai might become the supertall capital in a few years.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 01:44 AM   #13
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It will become a capital no doubt. Shouldn't we also consider history and quality, not just quantity and height, for a true capital?

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Old November 6th, 2005, 02:32 AM   #14
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Chicago and Hong Kong are true winnners!
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Old November 6th, 2005, 03:37 AM   #15
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agree..

history and quality > quantity and height!
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Remember though, it's unfair to say Hong Kong or Chicago are better than any other city in terms of skyscrapers. They may have the most supertalls, but they are blow out of the water compared to places like Shanghai and Tokyo when it comes to midrises.

What would you lists look like of Supertall, highrise, mid and lowrise capitals?
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Old November 6th, 2005, 07:35 AM   #17
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Don't tell me that Chicago has more 100m + buildings than Shanghai.
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This picture is deceitful, because if you look from a different angle the Shanghai skyline is very undeveloped. Here's the proof:


Shanghai's skyline is growing while the city is growing. NYC and Chicago skylines were growing while the cities were in decline. For a skyline to develop fully it takes decades, not years. And by the way Chicago has 233 completed and 12 U.C. 100m+ buildings. Shanghai has 186 and 19 U.C. 100m+ buildings-according to emporis.com.

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Old November 6th, 2005, 07:38 AM   #18
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The skyline is empty? I don't see how that can be possible. What you see in the picture is there, accept it. It hasn't been photoshopped at all. As I said earlier, this is only about 1/5 of Shanghai.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 07:53 AM   #19
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Hong Kong.

night view's city of $ million
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Quote:
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This picture is deceitful, because if you look from a different angle the Shanghai skyline is very undeveloped. Here's the proof:
Hmm...if i were to take a shot of NYC with the Central Park in the middle, then seeing a void of skyscrapers, I might as well say that NYC's skyline is underdeveloped.
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