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Old November 6th, 2005, 08:36 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by Wieland.
A few days ago, I searched for 100x100 cities (more than 100 buildings, taller than 100m). I don't really remember the exact numbers but it was about:

1. Hong Kong (785)
2. New York (450)
3. Tokyo (289)
4. Chicago (245)
5. Shanghai (175)

(numbers not always correct, but ranking is right)
Please check from Emporis. It's more accurate. The numbers for HK should be much more!

Buildings over 40 storeys in HK:
- HK Island is about 220
- Kowloon is about 320
- New Territories is over 400

So the total number of buildings over 40 storeys in HK is more than 900. A 40-storey building in HK should be at least 120m tall. If the creteria is 100m, the number should be thousands as Skyline & Scrapers Web said the number for over 90m is 3596.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 01:13 PM   #22
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I think Bangkok should be on the list as well. Many people are underrated Bangkok.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 07:40 PM   #23
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CHICAGO definitely is the king of SUPERTALLS. I don't care about the official height, but Chicago's supertalls are much more massive and bigger than HK's supertalls.

Sears Tower is taller than all of HK's supertalls. John Hancock Center and Aon are more "bigger" and more "massive" than Bank of China, Central Plaza, and the Centre. Don't forget about AT&T Coroporate Center at 1,007 ft (880 ft roof), the 995 ft Prudential Center and the 965 ft 300 South Wacker building.

Chicago has the biggest and the most massive supertalls.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 08:03 PM   #24
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But the mass of all the skyscrapers in HK is much more massive than that of Chicago. I think we are not just focusing on a few towers here.

Even when focusing only on a few supertalls, HK is still impressive especially after the completion of the ICC and Nina Tower. HK will have 2 over-400m, 4 over-300m and 6 over-250m, not to mention the numerous over-200m & enormous over-150m.

I think we focus more on height, numbers & artistic form in this forum.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 08:32 PM   #25
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Chicago will have 3 over 400m, 5 over 300m, and 9 over 250m
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Old November 6th, 2005, 08:49 PM   #26
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Most of these buildings in so-called "skyscraper capitals" are horrible....im looking in the general direction of Asian cities and Sao Paulo. Chicago has the greatest skyline right now. Just wait until Forham Spire, Trump, Waterview...etc.
So is Fordham Spire approved or still a proposal?
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Old November 6th, 2005, 09:52 PM   #27
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Quote:
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CHICAGO definitely is the king of SUPERTALLS. I don't care about the official height, but Chicago's supertalls are much more massive and bigger than HK's supertalls.

Sears Tower is taller than all of HK's supertalls. John Hancock Center and Aon are more "bigger" and more "massive" than Bank of China, Central Plaza, and the Centre. Don't forget about AT&T Coroporate Center at 1,007 ft (880 ft roof), the 995 ft Prudential Center and the 965 ft 300 South Wacker building.

Chicago has the biggest and the most massive supertalls.
They maybe more massive but HK's skyscrapers are much more artistic and better looking. Currently chicago doesnt have any building like the bank of china. Most of its current buildings are just big boxes with no consideration to design.
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Old November 7th, 2005, 12:25 PM   #28
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Very interesting comparison!
For da supertall big boys:
Current Capital of supertall: Chicago(Tallest and most diversified skyscrapers)
follow by HK and NYC without doubt!~ Future, possibilities of Dubai catching up!
Then da highrises and midrises:
Sao Paulo, Tokyo, Shanghai and Seoul...lots of cities can cliam da crow on this one!
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Old November 7th, 2005, 12:41 PM   #29
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They maybe more massive but HK's skyscrapers are much more artistic and better looking. Currently chicago doesnt have any building like the bank of china. Most of its current buildings are just big boxes with no consideration to design.
You are comparing with supertalls that are completely in da different age group! Please tell me that HK has anything to match up with Chicago in 1970s! The architecture trend was completely different during the boom of Chicago and HK. While Chicago sets the record and developing supertall architecture that are most efficient for the occupancy which resulted in all of em being massive. HK supertalls all are built in recent years with the emphasis on having to look artistic. So if you want to compare da history,LOL, Chicago by miles! But artistic and styles, Chicago and HK can closely match up based on personal preference. Don't forget that those big boxes still standing among da tallest in the world was 30 years ago! Image what it was like for HK 30 years ago, still sucking up nips,lol!
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Old November 7th, 2005, 01:07 PM   #30
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HK doesn't have much to say on supertall 30 years ago. But the night view is so scenic and romantic, even better than today IMO. Even without any supertall, HK was already known as "Pearl of the Orient" in the 60's & 70's. Actually, HK did have lots of tall buildings back to late 60's & 70's, just didn't have supertall.

For the overall skyline NOW, HK wins. I think we are not only focusing on a few supertalls here. Those over-100, over-150 & over-200 are so important to form a good looking skyscraper scene. Even when history is counted, the forumers here have chosen HK. Unless the forumers here are blind. Maybe I blind first.
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Old November 7th, 2005, 11:20 PM   #31
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Because a lot of users are impressed by flashy signs and weird shapes/colors, not really the history, functionality, and importance of the building.
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Old November 7th, 2005, 11:49 PM   #32
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Chicago will have 3 over 400m, 5 over 300m, and 9 over 250m

i don't want to show off or annoy anyone, some people might know it , but for those who don't, dubai has 14 towers taller than 300m UC and APP at the moment
and 3 completed of course.

not talking abt a lot in proposal/planning stage of course, there are maybe 5 in the pipeline for the next months from what we know.
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Old November 8th, 2005, 12:02 AM   #33
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HK has height that rivals Chicago and numbers that exceed both NYC and Chicago combined. In those respects, HK is right at the top. Quality is not that big of an issue. There are many gems in HK, not just those found on HK island.

Which city can honestly say that all the people of that city live, work, eat and play in skyscrapers? That is the true skyscraper lifestyle and the only city which can claim this type of lifestyle is HK. For me this is why HK is the skyscraper capital.
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Old November 8th, 2005, 12:09 AM   #34
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Old November 8th, 2005, 03:57 AM   #35
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Approximately 13 million out of 23 million people living in Metropolitan Seoul live in +12 story buildings (which, on average, is home to around 350 people, or 110 families, per building.) And that figure doesn't even include commercial highrises.



The only city that can compete with Seoul in terms of the number of +12 story buildings is Sao Paulo... Even HK and Tokyo don't come close to those two giants.

(Btw, those midget apartments in the foreground - not the midsized ones - are around 10-15 stories.)
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Old November 8th, 2005, 04:05 AM   #36
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Seoul is a great place, but rows of midrises with no merit don't constitute a capital to me. True skyscraper living is probably something for another topic.
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Seoul is a great place, but rows of midrises with no merit don't constitute a capital to me.
Well the topic was really meant to merit discussion regarding the MANY skyscraper capitals. Just because Hong Kong or Chicago have a couple of buildings (I say only a couple because they're nothing compared to Sao Paulo) that are tall, but that doesn't mean they are 'skyscaper capitals'. London is right, Seoul and Sao Paulo are amazing that no other cities that can be compared to when talking about skyscrapers. I know people will ignore this fact and go on talking about how good Hong Kong (or chicag) is, but regardless, the fact remains.
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HK is not just a couple of buildings. Yes. It only has a couple of over-400m. But the highrise & skyscraper number is now unbeatable. Please refer to the statistics.

You don't see most of the skyscrapers in HK from the photos because there are so many, scattered all over HK.
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Supertall:
1. Hong Kong
2. NY
3. Chicago
4. Shanghai

Midtall:
1. Sao Paulo
2. Tokyo
3. Seul
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