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Old April 23rd, 2008, 09:49 PM   #2161
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Some traffic reports are quite funny.

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Old April 24th, 2008, 02:59 AM   #2162
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Well I guess it's better than the house that was on the 101 for about a month.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 06:53 AM   #2163
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San Antonio is one of the least known major cities outside the USA. It has 1.3 million inhabitants, and is located in Southern Texas.

I-10 in San Antonio
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This is one hell ugly cowboy freeway
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Old April 26th, 2008, 07:02 AM   #2164
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I have to admit too, Texas highways are fugly.

All those stores on the side of the highway is not a good look.
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Old April 26th, 2008, 07:10 AM   #2165
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It's those idiotic roads running right besides the highways called service roads (or access roads, feeders, wherever you are). They attract businesses along the highway and the results are what you see right there. There are some nice freeways and they are fun to drive on.But I hate those service roads.

The only positive that I can think of regarding those roads is that if there was an accident, I jump the median, drive down the access road and ride it until I see the highway cleared up and jump back on the freeway at the next entrance ramp. Other than that......
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Old April 26th, 2008, 11:43 AM   #2166
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Frontage Road
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Old April 26th, 2008, 12:19 PM   #2167
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Feeder road, damn it!
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Old April 26th, 2008, 12:23 PM   #2168
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I have to agree that most Texas freeways are ugly, because of their massiveness. However, they seems better maintained than the Californian ones.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 05:01 PM   #2169
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Thattttt's the other word I was looking for lol. But I don't think the Texas freeways are ugly in so much that the area surrounding them actually are. It's fun driving down the area between the loop and Houston intercontinental. But the area surrounding the freeways are terrible and Houston is desperately trying to change that.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 10:15 PM   #2170
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This is what i call a "Texan Traffic Jam"
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Old April 27th, 2008, 10:42 PM   #2171
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WTF, they all go in one direction...
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Old April 27th, 2008, 10:55 PM   #2172
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Feeder road, damn it!
IMO, feeder road is to frontage road as freeway is to expressway. IOW, the highest and best type: one way, well integrated with interchange layouts, and often including free-flowing U-turn ramps. All feeder roads are frontage roads, but not all frontage roads are feeder roads.
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Old April 27th, 2008, 11:03 PM   #2173
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WTF, they all go in one direction...
Hehe, evacuation of Houston during hurricane Rita. Too bad i don't know which freeway this is. (I-45?)
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Looks like a typical drive on the Newhall Pass.
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IMO, feeder road is to frontage road as freeway is to expressway. IOW, the highest and best type: one way, well integrated with interchange layouts, and often including free-flowing U-turn ramps. All feeder roads are frontage roads, but not all frontage roads are feeder roads.
Nah, they're all feeders in Houston. It's really just a regional terminology. In San Antonio, they're service roads, while in Dallas they're access roads. In Austin, they call them frontage roads, that's why they're signed that way.

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Hehe, evacuation of Houston during hurricane Rita. Too bad i don't know which freeway this is. (I-45?)
That's I-45 at the Woodlands Parkway in The Woodlands (obviously). That shot was taken literally five miles away from my parents' house in Spring.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 12:24 AM   #2176
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My cousins live in Tomball. They waited out the hurricane and nothing bad happened near them.
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And nobody in the Netherlands is driving slower or less to compensate for high fuel prices.
Yeah not really, I had the worst fuel economy a few weeks ago, filled up my 50 liter tank with Shell Vpower at € 1,62 a liter (€ 81 euro total) at the German autobahn and 240 km later I was back at the gasstation to fill it up again...
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Old April 28th, 2008, 05:22 AM   #2178
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^ and i bet it was worth every penny
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Old April 28th, 2008, 05:52 AM   #2179
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Nah, they're all feeders in Houston. It's really just a regional terminology. In San Antonio, they're service roads, while in Dallas they're access roads. In Austin, they call them frontage roads, that's why they're signed that way.



That's I-45 at the Woodlands Parkway in The Woodlands (obviously). That shot was taken literally five miles away from my parents' house in Spring.

I have a friend that lives in the Woodlands and she waited the storm out, nothing really happened to Houston though. My moms cousin came to Austin and she said it took her 48 hours to reach Austin via 290 (U.S. 290).





As for the frontage road argument I think frontage roads are great because they make the roadway more efficient and better for business. As for making the road look worse, I could say I agree to an extent but I believe freeways in a city should focus on function more than scenery. Since I've lived in Texas since I was 6 (1986) my idea of freeways include frontage roads and I think that other forms of freeways in the rest of the U.S. look weird and you're literally stuck if something happens on the mainlanes.

I was in the Los Angeles area last November and I was looking for an In-n-Out burger on IH 210 and I saw one in the distance but I already past the exit. Sadly the next exit was about 3 miles away and it wasn't easy to turn around and find out where the restaurant was. I eventually found it by guessing which surface road it could have been but if I had a Frontage road to help me out finding business would be much easier.

I also jump the median if there is an accident on the freeway. Everyone sits on the freeway while you cruise along the frontage road wasting no time.
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Old April 28th, 2008, 06:26 AM   #2180
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One thing that I *REALLY* like about how Texas does its freeways with those frontage roads (they are likely the result of the solution to the quandary of how to balance the standards of the interstate highway system with a tenet of state law that grants the owners of any and all private land unrestricted access to any rights of way that their properties front on) is that they allow the state to 'blaze' and establish a new corridor by building the frontage roads first and then adding the freeway in the middle later on whenever the traffic numbers call for it - completely neutralizing the NIMBY factor in the process.

I wish that more states would figure out that big-time advantage.

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