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Old June 29th, 2008, 10:29 AM   #2481
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I think it's funny that the rendering shows almost nobody in the HOV lanes.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 12:12 PM   #2482
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There is also the NAFTA Superhighway, aka Interstate 69. It would extend south from its current terminus in Indianapolis and pass around Memphis and Houston before ending at the Mexican border in Laredo.
A section in Mississippi south of Memphis is already signed/designated I-69 according to several maps. Between I-55 and US 61. Eventually, the new beltway around Memphis might be designated I-69 too in the near future.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 12:15 PM   #2483
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I wonder if Europeans have the sample problem on 2x4 motorways.
Yeah, I hear often about left/middle lane hoggers on the A4 near Schiphol Airport, which has 2x5 lanes, especially on sundays, when there is a lot of traffic that's not very often on (wide) freeways.

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Okay just clarifying, does 2x4 mean 2 directions with 4 lanes each?
2x4 is the European version of "8 lanes".
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Old June 29th, 2008, 12:19 PM   #2484
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I think it's funny that the rendering shows almost nobody in the HOV lanes.
I guess they're trying to make a sale by making the HOV lanes look like a freeflow situation where one can avoid traffic jams.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #2485
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That's just in the Netherlands.Does Europe has the same problem on their 2x4 motorways?
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #2486
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There aren't so many 2x4 motorways in Europe, even in Germany there are only a few short sections that have more than 2x3 lanes. But I don't come there enough to say something about it.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:20 PM   #2487
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2x4 is the European version of "8 lanes".
We say "8 lanes" (ok, more often "4 lanes" ), I'd only say "2×4" to make it clear it's not 5+3 or sth..

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I wonder if Europeans have the sample problem on 2x4 motorways.
I don't think it's terribly wrong to overtake on the right, if there's at least one free lane between you and the one you're overtaking, otherwise it can be dangerous, especially if you're overtaking on the lane right next to the leftmost one.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 09:31 PM   #2488
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There aren't so many 2x4 motorways in Europe, even in Germany there are only a few short sections that have more than 2x3 lanes. But I don't come there enough to say something about it.
I passed by Milan many times and there is more anarchy by 8 lanes, but the leftmost lane is always free or very fast (100 mph and on).
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Old June 29th, 2008, 10:21 PM   #2489
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I'd suppose it's more a dutch problem than a european one. A lot of drivers just don't care in what lane they're driving in, or what speed they drive here.
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Old June 29th, 2008, 10:41 PM   #2490
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Yeah, I have mentioned couple times that I encountered some slow Dutch drivers in France. They did not quite hog the left lane but rather were slow to move over. Actually, it lines up with some of the Chris' replies here.
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Old June 30th, 2008, 04:40 AM   #2491
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In regards to the NAFTA superhighway, there have been multiple proposals put forth, but none have been approved yet.

Some planned superhighways:


A breakdown of the highway. Separate lanes are allocated for truck traffic, and a rail line runs parallel to the highway.


A quick quote from Wikipedia about the I-69 extention. This would link Texas to Ontario.

Interstate 69 exists in two parts: a completed highway from Indianapolis, Indiana, northeast to the Canadian border in Port Huron, Michigan, and a mostly-proposed extension southwest to the Mexican border in Texas. Of this extension, nicknamed the NAFTA Superhighway, since it would help trade with Canada and Mexico spurred by the North American Free Trade Agreement, only a short piece in northwestern Mississippi has been built and signed as I-69. Other sections, such as those in Kentucky and Tennessee, exist but are yet to be signed.

The southern terminus of the existing portion is at Interstate 465, the beltway around Indianapolis, on the northeast side of that city. The last bit of I-69 overlaps I-94 to the Blue Water Bridge across the St. Clair River, where traffic continues on Highway 402 in the Canadian province of Ontario.
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Old June 30th, 2008, 09:40 AM   #2492
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There are so much things wrong with that map that I don't know where to begin.
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Old June 30th, 2008, 01:28 PM   #2493
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Why is the Mexican flag in the middle of the US?
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Old June 30th, 2008, 05:19 PM   #2494
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Seems like US and most of american countries haven't woken up to railways and massive public transport yet. We'll learn it the hard way, unfortunately.
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Old June 30th, 2008, 08:55 PM   #2495
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A superhighway to Churchill while currently that city doesn't even have a road connection at all?
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Old June 30th, 2008, 09:01 PM   #2496
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Seems like US and most of american countries haven't woken up to railways and massive public transport yet. We'll learn it the hard way, unfortunately.
Nonsense -- -- hmph, it's more our incessantly being sedated by some heckuva lonely economic engine...

Exactly how long has it been wrong now to mention our being tricked?

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Old June 30th, 2008, 09:08 PM   #2497
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Seems like US and most of american countries haven't woken up to railways and massive public transport yet. We'll learn it the hard way, unfortunately.
Toronto gets it the worst. Our dickhead primeminister hates us and our transit budget is half that of Pheonix metro's!
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Old June 30th, 2008, 09:11 PM   #2498
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Hey! the guy mentioned the land masses, not some lakeside sore...
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Old June 30th, 2008, 09:14 PM   #2499
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Seems like US and most of american countries haven't woken up to railways and massive public transport yet. We'll learn it the hard way, unfortunately.
The US is not build in a way that public transport can resolve traffic problems, or meet transportation demands. Besides that, trucks are the most efficient way to transport nearly all kinds of goods domestically. The US is actually far ahead on Europe with freight rail transport.
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Old July 1st, 2008, 03:30 AM   #2500
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Depends on where in the US...where I live, freight rail is incredibly underutilized. About 3% of all freight is done by rail. Most of the rest is done by trucks that crowd our highways that already have too much rush hour traffic. Many other parts of the US don't have this problem...

But including to that very inaccurate map, the Superhighway would go through Hartford!


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A superhighway to Churchill while currently that city doesn't even have a road connection at all?
It will be our outlet to the Northwest Passage!
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