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Old July 1st, 2008, 07:07 AM   #2501
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A section in Mississippi south of Memphis is already signed/designated I-69 according to several maps. Between I-55 and US 61. Eventually, the new beltway around Memphis might be designated I-69 too in the near future.
That is accurate. In my state of Indiana, the state DOT is preparing to start construction on a 2-mile stretch of new terrain I-69 from I-164 to SR 68. $700 million has been allocated to new terrain I-69 construction (a total waste of money in my opinion because the existing I-69 is in serious need of upgrade).
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Old July 1st, 2008, 07:10 AM   #2502
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The US is not build in a way that public transport can resolve traffic problems, or meet transportation demands. Besides that, trucks are the most efficient way to transport nearly all kinds of goods domestically. The US is actually far ahead on Europe with freight rail transport.
That is not true at all. Just about every metro area in the U.S. would benefit greatly from commuter rail and good public transportation.

And trucks are a horrible way of transporting goods, but since so many freight lines have been abandoned and torn up, there really is no other way to transport goods in the U.S. This was a conscious choice by government.

Transportation in the U.S. only works well when fuel is cheap, and the expectation that it would remain so demonstrates the utter lack of foresight by the government at all levels.
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Old July 1st, 2008, 10:10 AM   #2503
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That is not true at all. Just about every metro area in the U.S. would benefit greatly from commuter rail and good public transportation.
The problem is that rail & transit only handle 0.6% of the total passenger mileage, while it obviously costs more than 0.6% of the total budget. Public Transportation is more expensive per passenger mile to construct and operate a lightrail or other kinds of PT. Besides that, the problem is that the government can't charge the full price of PT, because nobody would take it then. So the government has to offer all kinds of discounts to get people into public transportation. That money has to come from somewhere. I don't say PT needs to be profitable, but a bag of money would be nice to construct more PT.

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And trucks are a horrible way of transporting goods, but since so many freight lines have been abandoned and torn up, there really is no other way to transport goods in the U.S. This was a conscious choice by government.
The problem is that railways are not the way to serve our "just-in-time" modern society. They are only good for large bulk freights, like ore or grain. You have to take into account, that even in Europe, with twice the fuel price in the United States, the most efficient way of transport goods is still the diesel truck.

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Transportation in the U.S. only works well when fuel is cheap, and the expectation that it would remain so demonstrates the utter lack of foresight by the government at all levels.
Fuel IS cheap in the U.S. only you don't realize that because you've gone from super-cheap to cheap fuel. The current rising fuel prices are just a bad time before we all change to electric cars, or hydrogen cars and trucks. It's not like that if we run out of affordable oil, our roads will turn into useless dust, as some may suggest.
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Old July 1st, 2008, 10:30 AM   #2504
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What a nonsense!Why would they built a multilane higway all the way to Churchill(pop:1000 I think).In my point of view it's better to connect Winnipeg and Regina
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Old July 1st, 2008, 05:59 PM   #2506
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What a nonsense!Why would they built a multilane higway all the way to Churchill(pop:1000 I think).In my point of view it's better to connect Winnipeg and Regina
Mainly because Churchill is the gateway to Hudson Bay and the Northwest passage. As Global Warming continues to intensify, these waterways will become more and more important. Churchill could become a major port destination because of its location. It is cheaper to unload goods at Churchill than sailing through the Panama Canal and then up to the St. Laurence Seaway. (Just an example.)
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The same law goes into effect July 1st for Washington too, not just California.
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Any other states with this law?
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Old July 1st, 2008, 08:54 PM   #2510
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Old July 1st, 2008, 10:34 PM   #2511
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Any other states with this law?
As of today, New York, Connecticut, New Jersey, Utah, California and Washington (the latter two enacted this today).

From my experience, I am wondering how Californians adjust to that Also, this new law is a good news for cellular companies driving their bluetooth accessories sales up.
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Old July 1st, 2008, 10:55 PM   #2512
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Hopefully all states will eventually enact this law, it's much safer.
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Well, sending text messages is still allowed in California, and that's arguably even more dangerous. But, at least it's a step forward.
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Does anyone know what type of laws their are in Germany regarding cellphone usage, putting on makeup, eating, etc.?
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 05:11 AM   #2515
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It's now into effect in Canada, as of today.

Been already using my Bluetooth headset for a while anyway so no big change for me.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 05:14 AM   #2516
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The problem is that railways are not the way to serve our "just-in-time" modern society. They are only good for large bulk freights, like ore or grain. You have to take into account, that even in Europe, with twice the fuel price in the United States, the most efficient way of transport goods is still the diesel truck.



Fuel IS cheap in the U.S. only you don't realize that because you've gone from super-cheap to cheap fuel. The current rising fuel prices are just a bad time before we all change to electric cars, or hydrogen cars and trucks. It's not like that if we run out of affordable oil, our roads will turn into useless dust, as some may suggest.

Railroads can easily serve just about every city in the U.S, and much more cheaply too. Trucks can serve as short distance haulers of goods. It is conscious government policy that has made America dependent on trucks to deliver and transport almost all goods.

We will have to see if the auto industry develops cars that use something other than hydrocarbons as fuel. They have been dragging their feet for decades. And I doubt they would do anything to undermine the financial success of the oil industry.

And there are so many other benefits of having development patterns centered around mass transit: less sprawl and environmental destruction, less congested roads, etc.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 06:06 AM   #2517
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It is conscious government policy that has made America dependent on trucks to deliver and transport almost all goods
Taking that into consideration it is interesting to note than in 2007 the United States transported more freight (billions of tonne-kilometers) than any other nation by rail.
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I was setting up the bluetooth connection for my dad yesterday in our car. We did everything right, except the instructions didn't say that "accurate and proper English must be spoken for the computer to recognize your voice commands." I guess I'll need to sign him up for an English course haha
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Does anyone know what type of laws their are in Germany regarding cellphone usage, putting on makeup, eating, etc.?
As far as I know, using a cell phone is prohibited, but other stuff like controlling the radio, eating, drinking, smoking etc. is allowed. Those things are hardly enforcable, but arguably dangerous too. The fine for handheld calling in the Netherlands is 205 dollars. The fines in California are laughable, with 20 dollars for the first offense, and 50 dollars for subsequent offenses. Well, it gives the highway patrol some work to do while patrolling.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:24 AM   #2520
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Most prices for traffic offenses in US are laughable, comparing to many EU countries.
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