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Old July 2nd, 2008, 12:28 PM   #2521
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Does anyone know what type of laws their are in Germany regarding cellphone usage, putting on makeup, eating, etc.?
Holding a cellphone or a car phone in your hand and using it while the motor is on is forbiden.
The rest is not regulated.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 12:52 PM   #2522
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That's the same as it is in NL. It costs, as Chris already mentioned, approximately 140 euros (I'm not sure) if you get caught.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 06:10 PM   #2523
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An American insurance company has conducted a study of which cities are the safest (traffic accidents). This is their top ten:

Top 10 safest cities
1. Sioux Falls, South Dakota
2. Fort Collins, Colorado
3. Chattanooga, Tennessee
4. Sterling Heights, Michigan
5. Warren, Michigan
6. Knoxville, Tennessee
7. Grand Rapids, Michigan
8. Cedar Rapids, Iowa
9. Lexington, Kentucky
10. Detroit, Michigan

Last is Washington D.C.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 07:07 PM   #2524
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The cell phone law is totally unenforceable...people here don't care about it.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 07:55 PM   #2525
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@Chris: is there a site where you can see the whole list?
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 08:27 PM   #2526
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I don't have the entire list, it was presented on CNN this way.
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Old July 2nd, 2008, 11:49 PM   #2527
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[QUOTE=Chriszwolle;22188614]An American insurance company has conducted a study of which cities are the safest (traffic accidents). This is their top ten:

Top 10 safest cities
1. Sioux Falls, South Dakota
2. Fort Collins, Colorado
3. Chattanooga, Tennessee
4. Sterling Heights, Michigan
5. Warren, Michigan
6. Knoxville, Tennessee
7. Grand Rapids, Michigan
8. Cedar Rapids, Iowa
9. Lexington, Kentucky
10. Detroit, Michigan

Chris I am surprised Washington DC is dead last. I would have given that doubtful honour to Boston drivers. Driving in that city puts years on your life !! Scary boston drivers
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Old July 3rd, 2008, 01:08 AM   #2528
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The fines in California are laughable, with 20 dollars for the first offense, and 50 dollars for subsequent offenses. Well, it gives the highway patrol some work to do while patrolling.
Really? And they were telling us in the local news recently, that fines for the first offense were going to be $90. Additionally, I think I heard also, that for the first month or so, cities can give people warnings rather than a citation. That is, if they want to. Otherwise citation it is.
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Old July 4th, 2008, 09:02 PM   #2529
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I got it from the caltrans site.
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Old July 4th, 2008, 11:49 PM   #2530
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I think in Washington, cellphone use is a second-offense. You can't be pulled over for talking on a cellphone. But if you were caught breaking another law (speeding, driving in the left lane, DUI) AND talking on the cellphone, you will be charged for both offenses.

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- An influential Republican senator suggested Thursday that Congress might want to consider reimposing a national speed limit to save gasoline and possibly ease fuel prices.

Sen. John Warner has asked the Energy Department at what speeds vehicles would be most fuel efficient.

Sen. John Warner, R-Virginia, asked Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman to look into what speed limit would provide optimum gasoline efficiency given current technology. He said he wants to know if the administration might support efforts in Congress to require a lower speed limit.

Congress in 1974 set a national 55 mph speed limit because of energy shortages caused by the Arab oil embargo. The speed limit was repealed in 1995 when crude oil dipped to $17 a barrel and gasoline cost $1.10 a gallon.

As motorists headed on trips for this Fourth of July weekend, gasoline averaged $4.10 a gallon nationwide, with oil hovering around $145 a barrel.

Warner cited studies that showed the 55 mph speed limit saved 167,000 barrels of oil a day, or 2 percent of the country's highway fuel consumption, while avoiding up to 4,000 traffic deaths a year.

"Given the significant increase in the number of vehicles on America's highway system from 1974 to 2008, one could assume that the amount of fuel that could be conserved today is far greater," Warner wrote Bodman.

Warner asked the department to determine at what speeds vehicles would be most fuel efficient, how much fuel savings would be achieved, and whether it would be reasonable to assume there would be a reduction in prices at the pump if the speed limit were lowered.

Energy Department spokeswoman Angela Hill said the department will review Warner's letter but added, "If Congress is serious about addressing gasoline prices, they must take action on expanding domestic oil and natural gas production."

The department's Web site says that fuel efficiency decreases rapidly when traveling faster than 60 mph. Every additional 5 mph over that threshold is estimated to cost motorists "essentially an additional 30 cents per gallon in fuel costs," Warner said in his letter, citing the DOE data.
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Old July 5th, 2008, 01:21 AM   #2532
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I guess that Senator didn't learned that the 55 mph limit was a big failure back than and will be a big failure now. They did it just for revenue.
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Old July 5th, 2008, 01:52 AM   #2533
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I'd get a high blood pressure driving so slowly on freeways.
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what they need to do is STRONGLY enforce the speed limit
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An American insurance company has conducted a study of which cities are the safest (traffic accidents). This is their top ten:

Top 10 safest cities
1. Sioux Falls, South Dakota
2. Fort Collins, Colorado
3. Chattanooga, Tennessee
4. Sterling Heights, Michigan
5. Warren, Michigan
6. Knoxville, Tennessee
7. Grand Rapids, Michigan
8. Cedar Rapids, Iowa
9. Lexington, Kentucky
10. Detroit, Michigan

Last is Washington D.C.
i would believe it, those damn maryland drivers ruin everything!

but seriously, people driving here really do suck
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Old July 5th, 2008, 09:32 AM   #2536
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How are the drivers in Washington State?
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Hmmm I made some longdistance journeys the past half year, and 70-75 mph was still the most fuel efficient. I also did a lot of 60/65 mph, but that used slightly more gasoline. Your gasoline consumption stands or falls with the flow of traffic, not the speed driven in the first time. You can better do 80 mph on a freeflowing freeway than 30 mph inside cities with traffic jams and traffic lights.
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It makes much more sense to buy a European MPV instead of a Chevy Suburban or a big Ford something like that. Saves you way more gasoline than driving grandpa-style on the freeway.
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How are the drivers in Washington State?
Well that's a hard question. Speed limits generally are not followed, and 10-over is pretty common. There are some quirks like not keeping right except to pass (although it's getting better), and blocking intersections when they're in a line. But other than that, I'd say Washington drivers are about as polite as drivers can be. If they followed the rules a bit more, it would be perfect.

But still, grandmas in the passing lane is definitely the most annoying thing.

P.S. About the 10-over thing: We were doing 80 in rural central Washington where the speed limit was 70. We passed a highway patrol and he didn't seem to care.
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Thanks! And can you tell my something about the US-395?
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