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Old December 5th, 2008, 07:14 PM   #3381
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Do you guys mean mass transport?
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Old December 5th, 2008, 07:20 PM   #3382
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Until websites like this one I'd always assumed California freeways were in great condition because, after all, that was the home base of the "great American car culture" we always heard so much about. They famously (in southern Cal) turned their backs on proper mass transit, so the highways were key to the region's economy and therefore would be wonderful examples of road construction. Boy, was I wrong!
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Old December 5th, 2008, 07:26 PM   #3383
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They need to double the gas tax for improving mass transit and improving freeways. And now is the time to do that.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 07:40 PM   #3384
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Highest traffic volume per road in California, 2007:

Los Angeles, California

I-405 Exit 22 397,000
I-5 Exit 103 350,000
SR-60 Exit 26 348,000
I-110 Exit 18 335,000
US 101 Exit 20 325,000
I-10 Exit 12 323,000
SR-91 Exit 34 318,000
I-605 Exit 6 311,000
I-210 Exit 28 303,000
SR-57 Exit 16 293,000
SR-55 Exit 9 265,000
SR-134 Exit 8 249,000
SR-118 Exit 41 241,000
I-105 Exit 7 239,000
I-710 Exit 13 238,000
SR-22 Exit 14 226,000
I-15 Exit 108 225,000
SR-170 Exit 7 185,000
I-215 Exit 40 184,000
SR-2 Exit 14 156,000

Sacramento, California

US 50 Exit 6 253,000
I-80 Exit 96 232,000
SR-99 Exit 298 221,000
I-5 Exit 518 197,000

San Diego, California

I-15 Exit 13 302,000
I-8 Exit 14 252,000
I-5 Exit 36 244,000
I-805 Exit 9 242,000
SR-163 Exit 6 178,000
SR-94 Exit 5 175,000

San Francisco / San Jose / Oakland, California

I-80 Exit 9 294,000
I-680 Exit 48 266,000
I-880 Exit 29 264,000
I-280 Exit 4 255,000
US 101 Exit 42 254,000
I-580 Exit 44A 219,000
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Old December 5th, 2008, 08:41 PM   #3385
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They need to double the gas tax for improving mass transit and improving freeways. And now is the time to do that.
California recently passed Referendum 1A, which calls for a half a cent sales tax raise(I think) to raise a $40 billion+ bond to improve LA's transit, including building several rail lines and upgrading the freeways. BTW, Caltran should upgrade the I-405 into 4X5 collector/express freeway.

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Old December 5th, 2008, 08:54 PM   #3386
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Do you guys mean mass transport?
The NAE word is "transportation", because we didn't ever send prisoners to Australia

Transit means public transportation within a metropolitan area in NAE. Comes from the Latin trans- meaning across and ire meaning to go.

Oh, and California signage is ugly as sin. Kinda like their freeways.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 10:57 PM   #3387
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Redundant highway.
Actually, the Turnpike is quite different from 295. They rarely share an exit, with I-276 (PA Turnpike Ext.) passing over 295, and the Turnpike doesn't have an interchange with the Atlantic City Exp. or I-76. Also, 295 doesn't go any further north than Trenton, making it very inconvenient for those in NNJ. (Plus, the Turnpike is tolled, and 295 is not.)

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Also - not an interstate at that point. In fact, south of the PATurnpike connenction (soon to be I-95), the New Jersey Turnpike has no route number at all (even though all logic says that the NJTP's entire length should be I-95).



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The 95 gap is a humongous one, and is in the process of being filled. But, believe it or not, not by the PA Pike Ext, but rather somewhere in the middle of the highway near Princeton does the Turnpike lose its 95 designation. Although logic dictates that 95 should be the designation all along the Turnpike's length, this would cause massive problems in Philadelphia. Tons of signs would have to be changed, and the 1.5 million in Philly would not like to get used to a new highway running through their city. What matters is that the gap is being filled, and that there is a 276-95 interchange, not really what the designation is.
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Old December 5th, 2008, 11:40 PM   #3388
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Late 1970's, they experimented with metric signs in the Syracuse, NY area:
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Old December 5th, 2008, 11:48 PM   #3389
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Are there still plans to get America metric?
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Old December 6th, 2008, 03:58 AM   #3390
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Are there still plans to get America metric?
Nobody knows... The peaks of metrication attempts always fall on democratic leadership in Congress and White House, so hopefully, Obama will resume this noble yet unappreciated quest. The problem is that the USA is very isolated in its geographical setting, and its nearest neighbours (Canada and Mexico) are not influential enough in this respect. Plus, the general US population (i.e. Jesusland) is ridiculously conservative. Heck, some Americans do not even believe there is a world beyond America (and maybe Middle East cause it's on the news 24/7)
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Nobody knows... The peaks of metrication attempts always fall on democratic leadership in Congress and White House, so hopefully, Obama will resume this noble yet unappreciated quest. The problem is that the USA is very isolated in its geographical setting, and its nearest neighbours (Canada and Mexico) are not influential enough in this respect. Plus, the general US population (i.e. Jesusland) is ridiculously conservative. Heck, some Americans do not even believe there is a world beyond America (and maybe Middle East cause it's on the news 24/7)
There's nothing wrong with being Conservative, just like there's nothing wrong with being Liberal.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 10:21 AM   #3392
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Not to start a political discussion, but I can give you some reasons why it is not OK to be a conservative Would your Founding Fathers start the revolution if they were not progressive (read: liberal) enough? Would Mr. Lincoln start the Civil War against slavery (and some other things) were he not liberal? Would black Americans have equal rights today if it was not for the liberal Supreme Court of the 1960s to act against the popular opinion? How many unfortunate people could have been treated if the US government was liberal enough to allow and fund stem cell research programme instead of clinging to their religion and backwardness? Yeah, there is nothing wrong with being a conservative as long as you don't mind to be stuck in development. Think about it
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Old December 6th, 2008, 10:33 AM   #3393
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Why do people want the United States to go metric? I'm very happy using miles on the highways. If someone says a city is 300km away I truly have no concept of how far that is except that it's less than 300 miles. If all highways in the United States were translated into KM I think people will be converting in their heads back to miles.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 11:40 AM   #3394
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That's what I'm wondering about. Some people I know in Canada are still talking about miles and gallons, but the younger generation generally adopts the metric system very well.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 03:16 PM   #3395
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One of the new stretches of Interstate 99 in the State College, Pennsylvania area...

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Not to start a political discussion, but I can give you some reasons why it is not OK to be a conservative Would your Founding Fathers start the revolution if they were not progressive (read: liberal) enough? Would Mr. Lincoln start the Civil War against slavery (and some other things) were he not liberal? Would black Americans have equal rights today if it was not for the liberal Supreme Court of the 1960s to act against the popular opinion? How many unfortunate people could have been treated if the US government was liberal enough to allow and fund stem cell research programme instead of clinging to their religion and backwardness? Yeah, there is nothing wrong with being a conservative as long as you don't mind to be stuck in development. Think about it
Mr. Lincoln is considered to be the father of the Republican Party and a man that embodies conservative values(which in turn gives me a sense of optimism that our president-elect will end up leaning more toward the right). As for the social values, I'm not gonna dive into it too deep but I will say this. I think it stands in contrast to so-called acceptance from those of the otherside to consider "clinging" to faith as being backwards. If you choose to be very spiritual, then you should be just as accepting and respectful as you are toward all others.

President Eisenhower was a Republican btw, and he's the father of the American Interstate System.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 04:22 PM   #3397
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That pavement doesn't look new, am I right?
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Concrete immediatly looks old compared to the very aesthetic asphalt pavement.
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This doesn't look smooth, it should when new. The A4 in Poland looks way better, and I'm talking about the existing part near e.g. Opole. That's a few years old now and IMO it looks better than this.
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Old December 6th, 2008, 04:55 PM   #3400
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I-99 gets to 4 lanes? Mental!

US220 one of the most popular routes for interstate-ification in this decade, given I-73 and I-74 are partially upgrades of it in NC and I-99 in PA is upgrades US220.
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