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Old April 6th, 2009, 08:16 PM   #4041
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I-75 all the way through Atlanta;

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Old April 7th, 2009, 02:44 AM   #4042
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Sweet video!
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Old April 7th, 2009, 08:48 AM   #4043
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So a lot of you were complaining about how U.S. drivers all move at the same speed so no one can get by. I'm studying for the Washington Drivers test and looking through the Drivers Guide, I found this:

Keep pace with traffic - If you are going faster than traffic, you will have to keep passing others. The vehicle you are passing may change lanes suddenly or on a two-lane road, an oncoming vehicle may appear suddenly. Slow down and keep pace with other traffic.

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Old April 7th, 2009, 08:00 PM   #4044
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"an oncoming vehicle may appear suddenly"

That retarded. Who starts an overtake with 10km/h speed difference on a 2x1? On an other note,overtaking requires a clear long sight of the opposing lane,then how can anything "suddenly" appear?

"The vehicle you are passing may change lanes suddenly"

Dont drivers have priority in their own lane?
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Old April 7th, 2009, 08:45 PM   #4045
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Maybe they mean, if there's a lot of traffic, in which case it's indeed pointless and dangerous to overtake all the time, winning a minute in the end.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 08:54 PM   #4046
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Yeah, in busy traffic, I usually pick a lane and keep to it, adjusting my speed to the car in front of me. The problem is we have only 2 - 3 lanes per direction, while there are often 4 or 5 in the US. At 4 or 5 lanes per direction, you don't slow down the entire freeway when someone's tapping his/her brake.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 09:10 PM   #4047
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But if everyone is keeping pace with each other and moving at the same speed, no one can get by. That happens way too often in the U.S.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 09:11 PM   #4048
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Yeah, I see that often in freeway videos. Lots of left lane hoggers, the left 3 lanes are often filled with slow cars while the right 1 or 2 lanes are almost free of traffic.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 09:21 PM   #4049
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That's American driving for you. Many american drivers(at least the ones in my state) don't use turn signals either.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 09:50 PM   #4050
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But if everyone is keeping pace with each other and moving at the same speed, no one can get by. That happens way too often in the U.S.
At least you're allowed to overtake on the right in the US, over here that's prohibited.
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Old April 7th, 2009, 09:56 PM   #4051
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Maybe they mean, if there's a lot of traffic, in which case it's indeed pointless and dangerous to overtake all the time, winning a minute in the end.
I meant on 2-lane roads, just for the record. But I hate it that a lot of smartasses think they have right to go 100 mph (or at least the speed limit), even when a freeway is very busy. Just because I keep safety distance (unlike them), it doesn't mean I don't wanna overtake the vehicles in front of me.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 03:54 AM   #4052
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Here are some of the interstates around Chicago:























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Old April 8th, 2009, 03:58 AM   #4053
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100 mph (or at least the speed limit), even when a freeway is very busy.
I am not sure if I understood your message correctly, but in the US of A very few people drive 160 km/h even on an empty road Speeding when the traffic is busy is not the greatest driving problem in America, but rather blocking the left lane at any time (whether the traffic is busy or not). I think if they prohibited overtaking on the right, the number of left-lane hoggers would decrease because other drivers would not tolerate such behaviour. Now, it's easy to pass them on the right and forget about them.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 05:38 AM   #4054
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^ Sorry, I meant here in Europe; I haven't been to the US.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 09:48 AM   #4055
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Atlanta interstates are insane! I have had people intentionally try to run me off the road no less than 6 times in the 18 years I lived there. There is a section of I-75 in Cobb County near the Windy Hill Road exit that is 9 lanes of un-divided lanes on one side and 8 lanes of un-divided lanes on the other! There is a plan to widen the interstate to a total of 25 lanes in the future! It does not help that there is no rail public transportation outside of the perimeter (I-285) of any kind! Most areas of metro Atlanta outside of the perimeter don't even have bus service. Heck, many suburbs of Atlanta don't even have taxi service to them! If you don't own a car, you are screwed! The I-75/85 section through downtown carries around 330,000 cars a day, one of the highest numbers in the United States.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 11:40 AM   #4056
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Some peak traffic volumes in the Atlanta metro from 2003.

Source; GDOT

Interstate 20 aka SR-402

Exit 58 (Hill Street) - Exit 59 (Boulevard Road): 204,640 (2x6 lanes)
Exit 67 (I-285) - Exit 68 (Westley Chapel Road): 190,000 (4+5 lanes)

Interstate 75 aka SR-401.
Exit 237A (Forest Parkway) - Exit 238 (I-285): 204,600 (4+5 lanes)
Exit 249 (North Avenue) - Exit 250 (10th Street: 365,240 (2x7 lanes)
Exit 259 (I-285) - Exit 260 (Windy Hill Road) 341,090 (7+8 lanes)

Interstate 85 aka SR-403
Exit 85 (I-75) - Exit 87 (Lindbergh Drive): 228,480 (5+6 lanes)
Exit 95 (I-285) - Exit 96 (Pleasantdale Road): 258,970 (2x7 lanes)
Exit ?? (Beaver Ruin Road) - Exit ?? (Steve Reynolds Boulevard) 266,270 (2x7 lanes)

Interstate 285 aka SR-407
Exit 28 (Peachtree Dunwoody Boulevard) - Exit 28A (Peachtree Dunwoody II): 231,310 (6+7 lanes)
Exit 31A (Peachtree Road) - Exit 31 (Peachtree Industrial Boulevard): 289,390 (2x6 lanes)

Georgia 400 (SR-400)
Exit 4 (I-285) - Exit 5 (Abernathy Road): 215,870 (2x4 lanes)

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Old April 8th, 2009, 01:13 PM   #4057
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Late reply to something in another thread...

Reversion of I-40 to its original route through Greensboro, NC, is a truly epic phail because considerable extra expense was incurred in building a proper unTOTSO interchange there, with the now-defunct I-40 entering from the west and leaving to the south. A regular cloverstack would surely have been quite a bit cheaper and easier to build. Plus, the layout will be confusing to motorists, some of whom will surely swerve across several lanes of traffic at the last possible second once they realize they're going the wrong way.

I'm sure that there were voices raised in favor of keeping I-40 on its original path. Too bad they didn't prevail.

The situation doesn't occur on I-85-- the new route is very popular and Green 85 between the new bypass and I-40 is all but deserted now. I have photos if I ever get around to posting them.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 02:33 PM   #4058
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Atlanta's Downtown Connector traffic volume change:
[IMG]http://i40.************/24dqz2h.png[/IMG]

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And the I-285 - I-575 traffic volume change:
[IMG]http://i43.************/255utfc.png[/IMG]

visualizing the above statistics;
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Old April 8th, 2009, 04:21 PM   #4059
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20-30% decline in traffic? That's a LOT, something you don't see very often. Looks like jobs are moving outside of downtown and into suburbs.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 05:17 PM   #4060
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I-90 from 4th Ave (Seattle) to I-405 (Bellevue)

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