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Old June 25th, 2009, 03:56 PM   #4421
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seeing the pics from US highways... i just dont understand why such big ads along freeway/highway are forbidden in most countries of Europe and allowed in USA? just asking...
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Old June 25th, 2009, 04:27 PM   #4422
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In Europe, there are only three-lane motorways without so high viaducts.
That's not true
In many cities in Europe there are 4 or more lanes motorways; obviously they're not as usual as in America (Northern, Central and Southern)
There are even stack interchanges, but not as large as the ones you can see in U.S.
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Old June 25th, 2009, 05:59 PM   #4423
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seeing the pics from US highways... i just dont understand why such big ads along freeway/highway are forbidden in most countries of Europe and allowed in USA? just asking...
I see you have never been to central/eastern Europe.
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Old June 25th, 2009, 06:28 PM   #4424
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In Denmark, we have strict rules for advertising along motorways. Signs may not exceed a certain height determined by the local authorities, and can only contain the companys logo, no other information. But in other countries like France or Poland, you can't drive 3km without some big ugly billboard
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Old June 25th, 2009, 07:34 PM   #4425
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seeing the pics from US highways... i just dont understand why such big ads along freeway/highway are forbidden in most countries of Europe and allowed in USA? just asking...
It actually depends on where you go. A lot of towns around here ban them.

However, Hartford itself has too much.
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Old June 25th, 2009, 09:01 PM   #4426
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It actually depends on where you go. A lot of towns around here ban them.

However, Hartford itself has too much.
Billboard rules in the USA are generally done at the state level and below. Thus, some areas are more strict than others. Also, removing advertising billboards is not a simple matter of decreeing that they be gone - that would be considered to be a 'public taking' under the 5th Amendment of the USA's Constitution and their owners would all have to be compensated for them. The billboard companies also have VERY STRONG political lobbies in some states and the business is quite lucrative.

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Old June 25th, 2009, 09:04 PM   #4427
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billboards = customers = revenue. I don't think many politicians want to "kill" the retail businesses along freeways.
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Old June 25th, 2009, 11:12 PM   #4428
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In Denmark the reason why we have those strict rules about advertising is to preserve our "beautiful nature" and also billboards distract drivers' attention for 2 or 3 secs. making it dangerous with too much information on a billboard.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 01:25 AM   #4429
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Most places also have such ordinances in the U.S, Danielk2... at least here in Minnesota, there are fewer billboards.

There used to be many more until I believe it was Betty Ford or one of the first ladies that made a campaign to get rid of them. Now they are restricted pretty much to interstates and then only sparingly.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 01:57 AM   #4430
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In Denmark, we have strict rules for advertising along motorways. Signs may not exceed a certain height determined by the local authorities, and can only contain the companys logo, no other information. But in other countries like France or Poland, you can't drive 3km without some big ugly billboard
In Texas, the more ****ing ugly it is, the more appropriate it is, which applies to city planning and buildings as much as cars or people.

Don't get me wrong. The state I live (mostly) in, Ohio, has plenty of sprawl, and is no London or Paris. But they at least try to make things look nice.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 02:55 AM   #4431
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You won't even find this in countries like Poland or Romania on freeways.

Location: I-43 near Milwaukee.
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You WILL find roads like this in Poland. How about A18 eastbound?
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Old June 26th, 2009, 12:47 PM   #4432
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A18 in Poland is still under construction.The first lane was built by Germans and since that time not repaired. However, in eastern Germany it is (or was recently) easy to see highway built with uncovered concrete slabs.
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Old June 26th, 2009, 01:39 PM   #4433
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Has anyone tried driving on road #18 in Poland from Olszyna to Wroclaw (eastbound), that's worse than that american picture.

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Old June 27th, 2009, 12:29 AM   #4434
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You WILL find roads like this in Poland. How about A18 eastbound?
You will find roads like that and even worse ANYWHERE in Belgium.
Though things are improving.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 02:59 AM   #4435
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Has anyone tried driving on road #8 in Poland from Olszyna to Wroclaw (eastbound), that's worse than that american picture.
It is road #18 which I was mentioning as A18. It is complicated story, it is not technically designated as a motorway, it is just ordinary national road.
The reason for that is that half of it still remembers certain Adolf H.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 03:25 AM   #4436
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But how do you get a city "more dense". You can maybe demolish a couple of inner city blocks or turn surface parking lots into apartment buildings, but Houston really need to demolish hundreds of thousands of homes and replace them with something denser to make public transportation more feasible, something I don't see happening.
Public transit is quite feasible in Houston. The single light rail line that opened in 2003 has been a big success and if you look at the link I provided in an earlier post you will see that by 2012 several more light rail lines will be finished. The city voters approved a tax increase to pay for these lines because they were sick of being stuck in traffic.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 09:51 AM   #4437
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North Carolina maintains the 2nd largest highway network in the US. I think around 78,000 miles of roads. They're like capillaries weaving endlessly throughout what was once mostly a rural state. Today NC is the 10th most populous with almost 9.5 million residents, and by 2030 it is projected to become the 7th most populous state. It's interstates are among the most attractive also. I will post some pics soon...
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Old June 27th, 2009, 09:54 AM   #4438
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Biden: $19B in highway stimulus already set aside
Thu Jun 25, 9:50 am ET
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WASHINGTON – Vice President Joe Biden says more than half of the economic stimulus money set aside for highway projects has been allocated.

Biden plans to tell the Cabinet on Thursday that every state and territory should beat the June 29 deadline to identify half their spending for highway funds. He says that $19 billion has been set aside to pay for 5,300 transportation projects.

Of that number, 1,900 are already under way. Projects in economically distressed areas or those that would maximize creating jobs were given top priority.

Biden says the stimulus spending's goal is to get people back to work quickly and transportation projects are ideal for that.
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Old June 27th, 2009, 10:25 AM   #4439
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North Carolina maintains the 2nd largest highway network in the US. I think around 78,000 miles of roads.
How can that be if the entire national Interstate network is 46,876 miles (75,440 km)?

Unless you're counting all roads (including two-lane side streets)...
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Old June 27th, 2009, 10:30 AM   #4440
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How can that be if the entire national Interstate network is 46,876 miles (75,440 km)?
he said highway not interstate network, there are US and state highways also.
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