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Old July 7th, 2009, 01:02 AM   #4501
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I-95 is one of the most important, heavily-traveled interstates in the US. It serves as the primary link for the entire east coast (US1 held this title prior).

Unlike most other states, North Carolina decided not to route the interstate through any "important" cities such as Raleigh during its construction in the 1960's.

Because it is used primarily by out-of-state motorists travelling between the Northeast and Florida, it gets little priority when it comes to replacing NC's crumbling highways.

As a result, I-95 through North Carolina has become quite deadly with fatalities almost every week. NCDOT wants to completely rebuild the highway with 4 lanes in each direction and is considering adding tolls to help cover the estimated $6 Billion pricetag.

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Old July 7th, 2009, 01:27 AM   #4502
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North Carolina doesn't have any major urban areas or fancy 4 level "stacks", and its "traffic woes" are a joke compared many other places.

I am posting these poor-quality pics merely to show off NC's first realtime speed sensoring system and traveltime info. I've seen many of these in other cities such as Atlanta, but I've never seen one that compares traveltimes of two different routes.

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Old July 7th, 2009, 03:10 AM   #4503
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I-95 is 6 lanes through much of Va from what little I've seen of it. VDOT would do well to add a lane or two to each side of I-81 too, and some of its pavement is deteriorating...

I'm curious though, what's with the green I-40 shield here? (Not red/blue?)
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Old July 7th, 2009, 03:21 AM   #4504
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The green interstate shield is used to mark business routes. They typically are just normal arterial roads that lead into downtown in cities whose city centres are not served by interstates.. I'm pretty sure.
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Old July 7th, 2009, 04:50 AM   #4505
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The green interstate shield is used to mark business routes. They typically are just normal arterial roads that lead into downtown in cities whose city centres are not served by interstates.. I'm pretty sure.
Correct, but they're also used increasingly for bypassed sections of former Interstates: I-80 in Sacramento and I-85 in the Carolinas are the ones I remember right off.
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Old July 8th, 2009, 07:41 PM   #4506
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No point now. All the interstates that took over it's route pretty much, making it useless.

US highways are nice and all, but they're kind of irrelevant in this day and age...US 66 is just nostalgia.
um, while indeed interstates have pretty much taken over, important us highway routes still exist. the interstate system was planned to compliment rather than replace the federal highway system, though here in the west, many routes, including 66, were indeed replaced with freeways.

one extremely important federal highway is us 101 on the west coast. it serves as one of california's major north-south connectors, connecting la to sf. for the most part, 101 in california is a either a freeway or an expressway (divided but not limited access). 101 winds its way through the huge redwood forests up north, crosses the golden gate bridge, and serves downtown san francisco, downtown san jose and downtown los angeles. the terminus in la (at the east los angeles interchange) is the BUSIEST INTERCHANGE IN THE WORLD. the route approximates the 'el camino real', an old trail that linked all of californias spanish missions.
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Old July 8th, 2009, 11:50 PM   #4507
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I-95 is 6 lanes through much of Va from what little I've seen of it. VDOT would do well to add a lane or two to each side of I-81 too, and some of its pavement is deteriorating...

I'm curious though, what's with the green I-40 shield here? (Not red/blue?)
They are typically business routes, but sometimes called "business loops", as they take you back to the main interstate where you return to the freeway at a different exit. They are quite convenient especially in smaller towns, but with more and more development occuring right at the Interstate they may be becoming less important.

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Old July 13th, 2009, 03:51 PM   #4508
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New York bridge tolls are raised with 10%. MTA has a huge budget deficit (10% or over 1 billion dollars), and bridge users are now filling that gap...
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Old July 14th, 2009, 03:38 PM   #4509
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Thats one of the reasons i hate NYC , there stupid in balancing a budget or handling a surplus! that's why all the New Yorkers come to NJ to Shop or fill a tank of gas.
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Old July 14th, 2009, 07:55 PM   #4510
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North Carolina doesn't have any major urban areas or fancy 4 level "stacks", and its "traffic woes" are a joke compared many other places.

I am posting these poor-quality pics merely to show off NC's first realtime speed sensoring system and traveltime info. I've seen many of these in other cities such as Atlanta, but I've never seen one that compares traveltimes of two different routes.

I usually lurk but had to jump in to dispel this ignorance. Charlotte is a major urban area with a four level stack (intersection of I-77 and I-485) and another one to be built in the near future. I-485 in south Charlotte is a parking lot because of poor planning and not enough lanes, and its safe to say that any Charlottean would never go near Independence Boulevard in rush hour unless they had to. We do have problems just like everyone else, and to simply brush off NC as a backwater state with no real urban centers is to be frank simply insulting. And I havent even breached the topic of I-40 in the RTP area, or 440 during rush hour.....
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Old July 14th, 2009, 08:51 PM   #4511
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New York bridge tolls are raised with 10%. MTA has a huge budget deficit (10% or over 1 billion dollars), and bridge users are now filling that gap...
The truth is - I don't go to NYC as much anymore because of these tolls. So they shoot themselves in the foot. Why do you want to visit NYC if not for work? prices are much higher, they have state taxes on all the clothes and shoes, traffic never ends, roads are wayyyyyyyy far from being in good condition, restaurants routinely charge you now 20% tips on sometimes very lousy service and you cannot refuse that. So what is happening as a result - businesses and "happy hour" places are moving en masse to Hoboken, and Jersey City. in New Jersey we have NO taxes on clothes. almost never traffic as bad as in Manhattan. people are generally more laid back and nice. So honestly this is quite a stupid move on their part. I counted that for me to go to Brooklyn through NJ turnpike and all the bridges and then go back through Verrazano-Narrows - costs me 40$+ together with gas that I spend. I think this is crazy to pay 10$ for the bridge and 8$ for another one on top of 4.50$ toll for the turnpike.
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Old July 14th, 2009, 08:59 PM   #4512
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Old July 14th, 2009, 09:25 PM   #4513
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Old July 15th, 2009, 02:05 AM   #4514
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"I usually lurk but had to jump in to dispel this ignorance. Charlotte is a major urban area with a four level stack (intersection of I-77 and I-485) and another one to be built in the near future. I-485 in south Charlotte is a parking lot because of poor planning and not enough lanes, and its safe to say that any Charlottean would never go near Independence Boulevard in rush hour unless they had to. We do have problems just like everyone else, and to simply brush off NC as a backwater state with no real urban centers is to be frank simply insulting. And I havent even breached the topic of I-40 in the RTP area, or 440 during rush hour...."

UHHHHH, I was born, raised, and educated in North Carolina, and my sole purpose since joining Skyscraper City has been to boast about NC's greatness. For example visit the "Highway Fonts" thread. In my opinion Charlotte's biggest claim-to-fame is its elegant and extraordinary skyline. It is among the most beautiful in the country. I worked along side the lead architect of the Hearst Tower for a year in Atlanta.

I only mentioned the "4-level stack thing" because of all of the impressive Texas interchanges within this thread. North Carolina is now building flyovers all over the state, however the engineers tend to support them with as much earth as possible. It's hard to imagine anything like Atlanta's "spaghetti junction" being built in NC for now...

Charlotte has definitely made all the right moves in its attempt to enter the big leagues, and certainly looks and feels different from any other NC city. But you have to remember that Charlotte's 5 or 6 county (touching Mecklenburg) metro population is only slightly larger than the Triangle's or even the Triad for that matter. The 13+ county "Charlotte
Region" population of 2 million can easily be matched with 13 counties closer to Raleigh.

I am proud of the entire state. I live in NYC, and everytime there's a moment when strangers are announcing to each other where they hail from, I always become the "celebrity" after mentioning North Carolina complete with oooohs, and ahhhhs.

Until I find my absolute favorite shot of the Charlotte skyline, just look at the city from space and be thankful...
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Old July 16th, 2009, 05:03 PM   #4515
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Tolls on Oklahoma's turnpikes are going up 16%, the first increase since 2001.
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Old July 17th, 2009, 06:16 AM   #4516
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UHHHHH, I was born, raised, and educated in North Carolina, and my sole purpose since joining Skyscraper City has been to boast about NC's greatness.
That is not a reason to join this forum. I would prefer you take your blind homerism elsewhere. Shit stinks in the Tar Heel State just as badly as it does anywhere else.
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Old July 17th, 2009, 06:22 AM   #4517
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I-95 is 6 lanes through much of Va from what little I've seen of it. VDOT would do well to add a lane or two to each side of I-81 too, and some of its pavement is deteriorating...
Widening I-81 would be a complete waste of money, since most of the traffic is from trucks looking to avoid congestion on I-95. Shift the freight to rail and you will see traffic on I-81 drop significantly. Not only is this a more environmentally friendly plan, it is way cheaper.
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Old July 17th, 2009, 06:37 AM   #4518
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That is not a reason to join this forum. I would prefer you take your blind homerism elsewhere. Shit stinks in the Tar Heel State just as badly as it does anywhere else.
Yep, I'm not sure sprawl is something to proud of. Impressive, yes, the same way a bad highway accident is "impressive". Everyone wants to look.
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Old July 17th, 2009, 09:34 AM   #4519
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Widening I-81 would be a complete waste of money, since most of the traffic is from trucks looking to avoid congestion on I-95. Shift the freight to rail and you will see traffic on I-81 drop significantly. Not only is this a more environmentally friendly plan, it is way cheaper.
That's some very simplistic thinking you got there..

Transportation doesn't work that way. "shifting freight to rail" is very vague, and the majority of non-bulk carried by trucks is not suitable for rail freight. It's not like someone says "shifting freight to rail", and all problems will magically disappear...
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That's some very simplistic thinking you got there..

Transportation doesn't work that way. "shifting freight to rail" is very vague, and the majority of non-bulk carried by trucks is not suitable for rail freight. It's not like someone says "shifting freight to rail", and all problems will magically disappear...
I-81 does not encounter any major (top 20 CSA) metropolitan areas. It's entire purpose for existence is to provide long-haul trucks with a bypass for I-95, as he mentioned, since 95 goes through some of the biggest metros in the United States (Richmond all the way up to NYC). Therefore, most of the shipping that occurs on I-81 is exactly the kind of bulk freight that would be well-served by shifting the cargo to rail transportation.

The rub is, most of the rail infrastructure in the Northeast is already at capacity. Given the high gas prices last summer, most of the remaining spare capacity was already taken. While the railroads are engaging in massive capital projects right now, they understandably are not seeking to overexpand, and risk the same situation they faced in the 1960s, when even freight was only marginally in the black, due to heavy capital expenditures. Therefore, in the absence of nationalizing the rail infrastructure (which is politically infeasible in the United States at this time), you're correct, some expansion of I-81 is necessary, particularly near major interchanges and freight distribution centers.
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