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Old August 10th, 2009, 10:14 PM   #4601
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Better than the usual detoriated look of concrete imo...

But I wonder how these stacks will look in 2030.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 10:59 PM   #4602
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But I wonder how these stacks will look in 2030.
Probably much as they do now, except for natural aging of the traffickable surfaces like pavement and bridge decks. Dallas is in a warm, semiarid region and does not have a lot of smokestack industry.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 11:01 PM   #4603
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Not quite a stack, but this is how concrete in the Netherlands looks after 40 years...
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Butt ugly.
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Old August 11th, 2009, 01:41 AM   #4604
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While the stacked overchanges would be welcomed in the commonwealth of Massachusetts, I think the red and blue columns, along with the stars look tacky .
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Old August 11th, 2009, 02:16 AM   #4605
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Butt ugly.
Steel gets butt ugly, too.

Paint and pressure washing, anyone?
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Old August 11th, 2009, 03:28 AM   #4606
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WOW I wish they had those here in MA instead of these uneffiecient cloverleafs.
Those stack interchanges require A LOT of space- Massachusetts decimated its inner cities with freeways and the required interchanges. I think the state shouldn't compound the problem by tearing down MORE property to satisfy the car.
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Old August 11th, 2009, 03:50 AM   #4607
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Not quite a stack, but this is how concrete in the Netherlands looks after 40 years...
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Butt ugly.
We paint the bridges here so they don't look like that after 40 years.

Then again... one of our bridges just fell into the river after 40 years.
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Old August 11th, 2009, 04:40 AM   #4608
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I've always wondered why they don't pressure wash the concrete or something because all the highways here except the brand new ones look like that picture.
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Old August 11th, 2009, 08:02 PM   #4609
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I-76 in Philadelphia really needs a major overhaul... look at this 1940's freeway...
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Old August 11th, 2009, 08:06 PM   #4610
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Stack interchanges are problematic in the snowbelt (actually even places like DC and Atlanta have few of them) because the ramps freeze up in the winter time.
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Old August 12th, 2009, 08:25 PM   #4611
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Look at LA if you want to see lots of aged stack interchanges. Granted, the smog does a lot of damage im sure.
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Old August 13th, 2009, 06:24 AM   #4612
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North Carolina uses these pre-rusted steel beams/girders almost exclusively except along the coast. It's hard to distinguish newer flyovers from the older ones.

This 2004 photo is the improved I-85 and US70 interchange in Durham. Previously I-85 southbound didn't have any access to US70 eastbound, and US70 westbound merged with I-85 into the left passing lane.

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Old August 13th, 2009, 08:54 AM   #4613
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As Greensboro's urban loop begins to take shape with completed sections of various signed routes, NCDOT had always planned to re-route I-40 onto the southwest quadrant to bypass the old route's "death valley" interchange, and NC definitely loves the "bypass".

Soon afterwards, complaints about noise began, and more importantly NCDOT realized that by not re-routing I-40 the state would increase it's total Interstate mileage and in turn get about $8 million more federal funds annually.

Here is a hokey news report from Greensboro laden with inaccuracies from the reporter as well as a clueless citizen. I'm from the Raleigh/Durham area where the local newcasts are a little more sophisticated than this:
OOOPS! It will only link to youtube since embedding disabled by user. Sorry.

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Old August 21st, 2009, 03:10 AM   #4614
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i love american highways, since i was a kid, the expalin all in her signals, hope one day i could drive one of those
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Old August 21st, 2009, 09:26 AM   #4615
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As Greensboro's urban loop begins to take shape with completed sections of various signed routes, NCDOT had always planned to re-route I-40 onto the southwest quadrant to bypass the old route's "death valley" interchange, and NC definitely loves the "bypass".

Soon afterwards, complaints about noise began, and more importantly NCDOT realized that by not re-routing I-40 the state would increase it's total Interstate mileage and in turn get about $8 million more federal funds annually.
I still don't understand the current routing of I-40 and I-85 through the Greensboro area.

As far as I know the mainline I-40 and I-85 routings are like this (thus not counting Business Routes)
[IMG]http://i27.************/2ia7gcw.png[/IMG]

But it might be different, for example, I-40 could run further south and I-85 could run further north. But in my opinion, my map makes the most sense, creating direct routes, and as less concurrencies as possible.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 09:36 AM   #4616
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I'm also confused as hell about 40 and 85 as well as 73.
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Old August 21st, 2009, 12:19 PM   #4617
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I still don't understand the current routing of I-40 and I-85 through the Greensboro area.

As far as I know the mainline I-40 and I-85 routings are like this (thus not counting Business Routes)
[IMG]http://i27.************/2ia7gcw.png[/IMG]

But it might be different, for example, I-40 could run further south and I-85 could run further north. But in my opinion, my map makes the most sense, creating direct routes, and as less concurrencies as possible.
You have it absolutely correct. NCDOT had envisioned shifting the I-40 mainline onto the southern portion of the future loop and did so initially until previously mentioned issues prompted them to return to the old route through town.
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 08:49 AM   #4618
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What would you call the little connector between 85 and 40 at Holden Farms and Woodlea?
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Old August 22nd, 2009, 10:04 AM   #4619
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US 70 and probably a Business Route 85.
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 02:36 AM   #4620
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What would you call the little connector between 85 and 40 at Holden Farms and Woodlea?
I believe it is I-73 or I-74.
Here's that new sw quadrant. I don't mind repeating that NC can build some damn roads now...



I'm not familiar with the various "future" interstates planned there. And of course Winston-Salem will be getting it's own loop as well- I haven't a clue as to how it will be signed.

The old I-40 route (now business 40) that went through downtown Winston-Salem was awesome. It had steep grades and nuzzled right up beside the older Gotham-styled highrises. Very "northeast urban" flavor...

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