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Old September 6th, 2009, 12:31 PM   #4661
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I-35 is interesting in Kansas. First, it runs through a whole lot of nothing, but it's routing is also interesting, since it veers east for quite some distance between Wichita and Kansas City. I kinda get the idea that it wasn't suppose to serve Wichita in the first place, but run via Tulsa to Oklahoma City.
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Old September 6th, 2009, 06:55 PM   #4662
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Today is a special day in the history of the Interstate Highway system.

It has been exactly 90 years that on september 6th, 1919, the first Transcontinental Motor Convoy has reached San Francisco after 62 days of driving from Washington D.C. Everything west of Illinois was not paved, and often only dirt tracks.

Dwight D. Eisenhower was on this convoy, and his experiences with the German Autobahn system had propelled the creation of the Interstate Highway System as we know it today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transco...l_Motor_Convoy

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Old September 7th, 2009, 03:12 AM   #4663
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It has been exactly 90 years that on september 6th, 1919, the first Transcontinental Motor Convoy has reached San Francisco after 62 days of driving from Washington D.C. Everything west of Illinois was not paved, and often only dirt tracks.
Now that's what I call 'a lot of nothing'.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 04:49 AM   #4664
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Investigator: Some safety checks still lacking for US road travel of Mexican trucks, buses
2 September 2009

WASHINGTON (AP) - A government auditor says more work is needed to ensure the safety of Mexican trucks and buses awaiting permission to drive on U.S. roadways.

The Transportation Department's inspector general made public its latest report on Mexican truck and bus safety Wednesday. The audit says some states are not consistently reporting traffic convictions of people driving in the U.S. with Mexican drivers' licenses. Also, bus inspections are not being done, are done infrequently or have other problems.

The report says officials have made headway on other safety measures.

The North American Free Trade Agreement granted Mexican trucks and buses access to American roadways. Congress has refused to comply because of safety and job loss concerns.
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Old September 8th, 2009, 12:34 PM   #4665
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I've read all the thread and I find the issue a kind of discrimination with each country discriminating the citizens of the other. For the insurance issue - you should think of that kind of solution, that we have in Europe - international insurances. It works pretty easy - I buy here a policy (the so-called "Green card"), which covers like 30 or 32 countries. Then, when I leave the EU with my car I am obliged to show this peace of paper to the officer at the border. If I do not have it, than he would simply not let my in with my car. That's it.

With the language problem - begin implementing pictogram signs. I would not agree with Chris that all the truck drivers here in Europe have to speak a foreign language. I am acquainted to quite a lot that do not speak any fluently and still drive their trucks for more than two decades. In every case you have a mobile phone and you can call a person who speaks English any time. Than Germans have some extracts of their laws published in almost every European language, so even if you can not understand why are you fined, you will know how much you have to pay, and then make an objection from your country. And, last but not least - most of the international documents for TIR transport have international names - like "carnet", "green card" (although English, it is understandable everywhere), and for buses - "Interbus", "Assor" etc.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 11:10 PM   #4666
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Check out these photos of I-90! http://www.flickr.com/photos/wsdot/s...7615121848716/

Absolutely horrendous.
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Old September 13th, 2009, 11:28 PM   #4667
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Yeah, that's bad. The problem is that concrete lasts that long, that DOT's don't have much of an incentive to replace it, so they probably don't plan ahead with budgets to replace it. Once you have to replace it, it usually means a complete overhaul of the pavement because it's like 40 - 50 years old. I don't know that much about concrete, because we do not use it in the Netherlands, but I think current concrete pavements are much better to resist traffic and weather than it was in the 1960's. As you can see in Poland for instance, they don't lay individual concrete slabs anymore, but pour it so it's one big piece of concrete.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 02:53 AM   #4668
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Good, but not good enough to be compared with the European motorways.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 03:04 AM   #4669
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Today is a special day in the history of the Interstate Highway system.

It has been exactly 90 years that on september 6th, 1919, the first Transcontinental Motor Convoy has reached San Francisco after 62 days of driving from Washington D.C. Everything west of Illinois was not paved, and often only dirt tracks.

Dwight D. Eisenhower was on this convoy, and his experiences with the German Autobahn system had propelled the creation of the Interstate Highway System as we know it today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transco...l_Motor_Convoy
I think a lot of people in the US don't realize how influential Eisenhower was in creating our current highway system. Without him, it probably would have been built in some form eventually, but with him it was built in a relatively short period of time, with most major construction in the first decade and a half. In the mountain west, many of the late 50's/early 60's infrastructure still exist...I guess both good and bad, in that it was built at a high quality standard, but the lifespans of a lot of this construction are rapidly coming to an end.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 04:35 AM   #4670
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I think a lot of people in the US don't realize how influential Eisenhower was in creating our current highway system. Without him, it probably would have been built in some form eventually, but with him it was built in a relatively short period of time, with most major construction in the first decade and a half. In the mountain west, many of the late 50's/early 60's infrastructure still exist...I guess both good and bad, in that it was built at a high quality standard, but the lifespans of a lot of this construction are rapidly coming to an end.
Exactly when built the system was the best in the world, however we lack the leadership and funds to maintain and expand upon the system properly.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 04:42 AM   #4671
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Exactly when built the system was the best in the world, however we lack the leadership and funds to maintain and expand upon the system properly.
We do have the leadership and barrels to expand but the controversial pork barrel and bureaucracy lead to its demise. That's the reason why the first Bush Administration killed the idea.
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Old September 14th, 2009, 04:44 AM   #4672
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We do have the leadership and barrels to expand but the controversial pork barrel and bureaucracy lead to its demise. That's the reason why the first Bush Administration killed the idea.
Meaning we don't have the leadership lol...
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Old September 15th, 2009, 02:44 PM   #4673
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We do have the leadership and barrels to expand but the controversial pork barrel and bureaucracy lead to its demise. That's the reason why the first Bush Administration killed the idea.
U.S. won't raise federal fuel taxes to the necessary maintenance level. That's the biggest reason. The second biggest reason is that states have ways of making federal highway dollars disappear once they reach the state coffers.
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Old September 15th, 2009, 04:43 PM   #4674
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Old September 16th, 2009, 09:33 AM   #4675
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U.S. won't raise federal fuel taxes to the necessary maintenance level. That's the biggest reason. The second biggest reason is that states have ways of making federal highway dollars disappear once they reach the state coffers.
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Old September 16th, 2009, 12:47 PM   #4676
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We just need a couple of bridges collapsing, if possible with a lot of deaths, to wake up the American public that a gas tax raise is just needed to fund the detoriating infrastructure.
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Old September 17th, 2009, 01:55 AM   #4677
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We just need a couple of bridges collapsing, if possible with a lot of deaths, to wake up the American public that a gas tax raise is just needed to fund the detoriating infrastructure.
Oh whenever the next earthquake is, Washington is going to be hit haaaarrrrrd. The SR 99 viaduct is 40 years old and has been sinking ever since 2001. The SR 520 floating bridge is also about 40 years old and cracks every other month.

Neither will be replaced until 2015.
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Old September 17th, 2009, 02:55 AM   #4678
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You guys do realize that even if the gas tax was raised it might not change a thing, the fact is the government puts a lot of money elsewhere instead of into infrastructure. I remember hearing only a certain percent of the money collected from gas taxes actually goes back into infrastructure.
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Old September 17th, 2009, 06:16 AM   #4679
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It's about 90%, which is better than in a lot of other places. The problem is that the gas tax is so low that new capital construction (which is needed in many areas that have significant inward population transfer) gets squeezed.
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Old September 18th, 2009, 04:01 AM   #4680
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Straightening a curve on I-59 in Laurel MS:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=3...09055&t=k&z=17

I've only been there once, over thirty years ago and in the wee hours of the morning, but I'd always wondered why that part of I-59 was so narrow and curvy. Perhaps it was designed in the pre-Interstate era.

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