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Old October 7th, 2009, 02:33 AM   #4781
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Old October 7th, 2009, 03:18 AM   #4782
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Um, "Major Moves"? My man Mitch has I-69 covered. Don't worry about the future, it's gonna be cheaper to convert 67 to Interstate between Bedford and Indy anyway.
Major Moves allocated $700 million to I-69, which isn't even enough to build the first half of the interstate. The state is already cutting corners to reduce costs such as paving with asphalt instead of concrete, narrowing shoulders, and not building certain interchanges, and possibly not building a rest area.

And SR 37, not 67, connects Bedford with Indianapolis.
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Old October 7th, 2009, 03:18 AM   #4783
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(hehehehehe)

Unlike you, I make ZERO political statements when new I-route segments are completed. If it's a new chunk of interstate that has reached completion and I find out about it, I'll celebrate its opening in this forvm - regardless of where in the USA it is and whatever the events are that preceded its appearance. You'll find numerous postings of that kind from me in here over the past couple of years.



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Unlike you, I-69 is a personal issue for me since it will cut through my city of residence. Thus I do have a strong opinion on it.
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Old October 7th, 2009, 03:22 AM   #4784
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405 barely functions as a bypass, since it's just as congested as I-5. The Los Angeles metropolitan area is so big that's it's unavoidable for north-south traffic. There's no other option than to drive on 300,000 + AADT freeways.

In fact, nearly no American city has a bypass that's actually interesting for through traffic. They're either congested suburban freeways, or too far out to make a difference (like Beltway 8 in Houston or I-278 and I-287 in New York)
Actually, I-287 is a great way to bypass New York if you are headed to New England from Pennsylvania (and points west) and vice versa.

When my family drives to Massachusetts from Indiana, they always take I-287 around New York.
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Old October 7th, 2009, 03:53 AM   #4785
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a short slice of a 2 mile I-84 Section in Pennsylvania and New York

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Crossing the Delaware River into New York

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Exiting @ Exit 1
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Later that day on NJ Entering I-287 North in Butler,NJ

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I-287 @ Exit 53 in Pompton Plains

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Wanaque River Valley Viaduct

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Looking South
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Looking South
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I-287 in Mahwah,New Jersey
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Crossing the Mahwah River
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Sheraton Cross Roads
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Entering New York State and The NY Thruway Interchange in Suffern,NY

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Crossing the Mahwah River again

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Northbound NY Thruway Toll Gate

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Exiting at the Garden State Parkway

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Garden State Parkway / Thruway Extension Southbound

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Last Exit in New York , all Trucks must exit because the Garden State Parkway doesn't allow them , except on the southern part

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Welcome to New Jersey

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Thats it for now, i'll post so more later i hope you enjoined

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Old October 11th, 2009, 11:56 PM   #4786
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Thanks for the pics, nexis! Great stuff, as usual.


A few pics of the NJ Turnpike I found on the web:





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Old October 12th, 2009, 01:48 AM   #4787
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Our Interstates don't actually look that bad.Although not as nice and beautiful as European motorways, I think it gets the job and let's face it, functionality and getting the job done is more important than eye candy.However, out here in California our freeway signs are old pieces of shit from the 60's and 70's.
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Old October 12th, 2009, 07:42 AM   #4788
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i agree with you , Highways are for Point A to Point B , not for Eye Candy which can be disreacting.

ironically i was on the New Jersey Turnpike Yesterday


I-78 in Jersey City : New Jersey Turnpike Newark Bay Ext.

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Jersey City Skyline for the Jersey City Skyway , note ony 4 of those bdgs are NYC

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Uptown / Journal SQ Skyline

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I-78 West in Bayonne

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Newark Bay Bridge : I-78

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City of Newark Skyline & Port

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Approaching I-95 : New Jersey Turnpike Interchange

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New Jersey Turnpike North : I-95

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Looking at the Newark Bay Bridge

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Pulaski Skyway

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incoming plane

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New Jersey Industrial Lands

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New Jersey Turnpike Near Exit 15W

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Jersey City & Manhattan Skyline

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Secacuse Junction Complex Exit 15X

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Train Headed into NYC Penn Station

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NJ Transit Bi-level headed into NYC Penn Station

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Secacuse Eastern Spur Toll Gate

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Cars Waiting to pay Cash or get a Ticket

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NJ Turnpike @ Exit 15W : Route 3

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I-95 @ I-80 interchange

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I-80 begin in Teaneck,NJ

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City of Hackensack & River

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Thats it for the interstates, more will come later for non interstates.

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Old October 12th, 2009, 08:08 AM   #4789
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Nice shots.

Another point I would like to make to these Europeans.I know you guys think you are all that, but you have to consider the size of the system.Considering that California or Texas alone is bigger than the average European country, you have to take into account that it takes shitload of money to maintain a system of this scale.On average, Germany can proably spend 20 times more money per mile(or km) of road than the US ever could, as Germany's money doesn't have to worry about 70,000 km of Freeway.Do you have any idea how much it would cost to place all those fancy electronic overhead signs on *every single* stretch of interstate?We would go broke.I doubt that any of you Europeans could do better if your country was as big as the US.

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Old October 12th, 2009, 09:50 AM   #4790
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Comparing 70,000 kms of the U.S. Interstate system with Germany, which is the size of one or two states, isn't really that fair. Germany is somewhere between New Mexico and Montana in size and has 12.500 kilometers of Autobahn. Spain is between California and Texas and has 13.500 kilometers of Autopista. France is about the size of Texas with 12.500 kilometers of Autoroute.

Plus, you think we don't have electronic signs in Europe?

Size doesn't matter. The U.S. has low gas and auto taxes, that's why they can't maintain the road system. European countries receive about 4 times more in road-related taxes than they spend.
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Old October 12th, 2009, 07:23 PM   #4791
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Comparing 70,000 kms of the U.S. Interstate system with Germany, which is the size of one or two states, isn't really that fair. Germany is somewhere between New Mexico and Montana in size and has 12.500 kilometers of Autobahn. Spain is between California and Texas and has 13.500 kilometers of Autopista. France is about the size of Texas with 12.500 kilometers of Autoroute.

Plus, you think we don't have electronic signs in Europe?

Size doesn't matter. The U.S. has low gas and auto taxes, that's why they can't maintain the road system. European countries receive about 4 times more in road-related taxes than they spend.
Remember, too, that Germany also has just over 82M people inhabiting that land area that is between Montana and New Mexico in physical size, whereas in 2000, the US Census Bureau found all of 935,670 people living in all of Montana.



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Old October 12th, 2009, 07:27 PM   #4792
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Chris is right about the fuel taxes, but that is not the whole story. Many states have gone without a fuel tax increase since the mid-1990's, while the federal fuel tax has not been increased since 1993. Since that time inflation, which tends to be higher in the heavy construction sector than in the economy as a whole, has eroded the purchasing power of fuel tax revenues. As a result of spikes in the prices of steel, cement, and oil after 2004--caused by robust demand, particularly in China and the other "Asian tiger" economies, and aggravated by extremely high crude prices in 2008--many states are now in a position where they can no longer do upkeep on their existing systems, let alone consider capacity expansions. If it were not for the stimulus program, which for many states represents unanticipated "free money" to build projects they had sitting on the shelf, highway construction in the US would be in the middle of a bad slump.

Because European countries collect far more in fuel tax than they spend on their highways, they have far more scope to eat cost increases arising from inflation and project changes before they reach a point where the highway system receives net subsidy from general government revenues. Even so, construction spending in Europe has been squeezed also: new construction project advertisements in Spain are almost at a standstill now, for example.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 01:47 AM   #4793
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To add on, yes Germany spends far more money on maintenance, (I heard about $300,000 annually per mile). But, Germany also has much higher quality control than the U.S. In fact, I would say most European countries have higher quality control. Also, they have more rules/regulations regarding land usage.

Because of that, I find it hard to claim that if European countries were as big as the U.S., their highways would be as crappy as ours. They would probably take a more efficient approach such as not building a highway through a city center, and balancing transporation modes (like mass transit, etc.).

The fact is that most Americans hate regulations and do only what's needed, and if we can do the least amount of work, we will probably do the least amount of work, simply because expectations just aren't that high.

It's not exactly the best mindset to have, but we'll just have to live with it.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 04:02 AM   #4794
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Here are some shots taken of West Interstate 10 and U.S. 90 on the evening of October 11th, 2009 in some dreary weather. Last shot is a rural shot of Interstate 10 at the U.S. 90 and F.M. 3538 exit.

Too bad they don't sign U.S. 90 on the Katy Freeway.

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After driving a while Interstate 10 west goes from a million lanes down to two....

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Old October 13th, 2009, 06:31 AM   #4795
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Wow nice pictures! That is one wide highway. When was it built?

Too much concrete IMO...
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Old October 13th, 2009, 06:50 AM   #4796
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Wow those are great pics, I love and miss Texas highways, truly the best I've been on in the US.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 08:29 AM   #4797
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Interstate 280 in Essex County,New Jersey

I-280 East in Orange,NJ

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I-280 East in Newark,New Jersey

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Exit 15 & Broad Street NJ Transit Station

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Passaic River Bridge

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I-280 East in Harrison,New Jersey

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Thats it for now more will come soon , i hope you liked

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Old October 13th, 2009, 09:52 AM   #4798
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Wow nice pictures! That is one wide highway. When was it built?

Too much concrete IMO...
The Katy was rebuild until 2008 I believe. It was only 6 lanes originally. Now up to 16 mainline lanes.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 10:21 AM   #4799
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Love the way American's build freeways/highways. Australia could definitely learn a thing or two.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 10:57 AM   #4800
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Love the way American's build freeways/highways. Australia could definitely learn a thing or two.
Totally, we could have a NJ Turnpike toolbooth setup. Atleast they made the Gateway in Brisbane free-flow tolling.

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