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Old April 30th, 2010, 10:31 PM   #5661
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Hey Nexis why do they have jug handles in Jersey and you can't pump your own gas?
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Old April 30th, 2010, 11:35 PM   #5662
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Hey Nexis why do they have jug handles in Jersey and you can't pump your own gas?
I'm not sure why , we also have many other unique things like Roundabout Interchanges , Unique bridges and Tunnels. And weird Railway networks , all i can say its a Jersey Thing.....as For pumping our gas , idk why. But the bulk of the state likes it and it creates jobs.
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Old May 1st, 2010, 12:48 AM   #5663
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Just got back from Lousiville, Kentucky. Not much to say about the city other than it's stuck in the 1950s, but I did notice that newer sections of highways (I-71 and I-75) appear pretty well-built. They are well-banked, guardrails are well-aligned, and my favorite part is that the concrete barrier in the median will actually become taller during turns to block lights from incoming traffic.

I don't have pictures and videos, but some sections resemble the NJ Turnpike, and dare I say, almost European.

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Old May 3rd, 2010, 08:15 PM   #5664
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Bids for Corridor X, Interstate 65 interchange will be opened May 21
By Jeremy Gray -- The Birmingham News
April 28, 2010, 8:05PM


Bids on the final link between Interstate 65 and Corridor X will be opened next month, state officials announced Wednesday, restarting a project that stalled earlier this year for lack of funds.

Work on the project could begin in late July or early August and take three years to complete, said Alabama Department of Transportation spokesman Tony Harris.

The estimated $200 million project involves completing the roughly 1½-mile section between where Corridor X currently ends at Coalburg Road and I-65, and connecting the two interstates with an intricate series of ramps, bridges and overpasses.

Construction plans have been ready for a year, but ALDOT was not confident funding would be available to perform the work, said Harris. Congress has yet to pass a bill to replace a six-year highway funding bill that ended in September. Harris said state officials were reluctant to move forward because Congress approved only month-to-month funding extensions after the bill expired.

However, a bill passed by Congress and signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 18 extended federal highway funding through the end of 2010 and made work on the interchange possible again.

"We were in a situation where federal funding was so uncertain we didn't feel we could move forward responsibly," Harris said.

Bids will be opened May 21. The work will link Corridor X -- which upon completion will be called Interstate 22 -- to a portion of I-65 north of downtown Birmingham that now is being widened, Harris said.
Harris likened the finished project to interchanges linking I-65 to I-20/59 and to I-459.

Work on Alabama's roughly 96-mile portion of the Birmingham-to-Memphis
interstate began more than 30 years ago, according to ALDOT.
Gov. Bob Riley called the work "the single largest construction project in state history."

"This interstate will be an engine of economic growth for the entire region," Riley said in the statement. "It will help us recruit new industry and bring new visitors to our state."

Elected officials from Washington to western Jefferson County welcomed the news that plans for the interchange were moving forward."A completed interstate connecting Birmingham and Memphis will lead to new
development opportunities throughout our part of Alabama," Rep. Spencer Bachus said in a statement.

For Graysville Mayor Doug Brewer, the work can't start soon enough. "Interstate 22 is our future," Brewer said. With three exits along the interstate, Brewer said Corridor X "will be the engine for the greatest economic development in our city's history."
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Old May 3rd, 2010, 08:21 PM   #5665
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Birmingham-area plan would drop 40 road projects for lack of funds
By Kent Faulk -- The Birmingham News
April 22, 2010, 7:00AM


Regional planners want to remove 40 proposed projects from the area's updated 25-year road plan because money isn't likely to be found to build them. Among the projects slated to be removed is the western leg of the proposed beltline around Birmingham.

Jefferson and Shelby counties are forecast to have $4.1 billion from various federal, state, and local agencies for road construction projects over the next 25 years, said Darrell Howard, principal transportation planner with the Regional Planning Commission of Greater Birmingham.

About half that money will be allotted for maintenance -- including paving and bridge replacement -- with the remainder for new construction, Howard said. "We really don't have enough money to build everything we want to build," he said.

Planners answered questions and took suggestions from area residents about the draft of the proposed 2035 Regional Transportation Plan during a Wednesday meeting. The Birmingham Metropolitan Planning Organization is set to vote on approval of the plan in June. The public has through May 11 to comment.

Federal rules require regions to develop a road and transit plan that looks at least 20 years into the future and update it at least once every four years. MPO, which uses the Regional Planning Commission to develop the plans, chose to do a 25-year plan.

The current 2030 plan has 94 road projects on it. The proposed updated version has 54 projects.

The most expensive project proposed to be removed from the plan, and the one that garnered the most attention at Wednesday's meeting, was the western section of the beltline from U.S. 78 at Graysville to Interstate 59 at Interstate 459. Construction of that section would cost about $1 billion, Howard said.

Removal of that segment from the plan didn't sit well with one member of the citizen's committee that advises the MPO on the plan.
Anna Brown, of Birmingham, said it looked as if the western and northwestern portion of the county was being left out of the economic development possibilities.

The northern part of the beltline is still in the plan and the southern and eastern portions -- Interstate 459 -- are already built. The northern leg of the beltline is projected to get about $2 billion over the next 25 years toward construction.
If there's going to be a project to help develop the metro area, Brown said, "that part of the county should be included, not just for the people who want to run to Shelby County."

A few others from the citizens committee said Wednesday they believe the northern beltline is more of a priority than the western portion.

The western leg of the beltline, however, did make what planners are calling a visionary plan. It's kind of wish list made up of many of the projects proposed for cutting from the 25-year plan.

Projects on the visionary plan would cost about $3.6 billion, Howard said.
Plans were developed based on talks with state road officials, along with city and county officials from Jefferson and Shelby counties, and projected money to make those projects happen, Howard said.

One project is slated for heavily congested U.S. 280 in the 25-year plan.
That nearly $25 million project would widen and add side roads along U.S. 280 from Interstate 459 eastward to Eagle Point Parkway, Howard said.

The U.S. 280 toll road, recently proposed by the Alabama Department of Transportation, was not included in the 25-year plan. A planning official said some details on that project were uncertain such as interchange placement and funding. Also, ALDOT did not ask that the toll road be added to the plan.
"From a project justification and financial standpoint, it's not ready to go into the plan," said William R. Foisy, director of planning at the Regional Planning Commission of Greater Birmingham.

The proposed 25-year plan also includes $220 million in transit projects. The visionary plan includes an additional $320 million in transit projects, Howard said.
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Old May 5th, 2010, 07:47 AM   #5666
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I'm not sure why , we also have many other unique things like Roundabout Interchanges , Unique bridges and Tunnels. And weird Railway networks , all i can say its a Jersey Thing.....as For pumping our gas , idk why. But the bulk of the state likes it and it creates jobs.
Interesting.
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Old May 6th, 2010, 07:53 AM   #5667
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Old May 7th, 2010, 03:32 AM   #5668
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Hey Nexis why do they have jug handles in Jersey and you can't pump your own gas?
What is a jug handle?
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Old May 7th, 2010, 03:53 AM   #5669
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ATM signs up and testing (the dot in the middle of the signs):

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How big are the ones in Germany? These are about 2.2 meters in length/width but they look fairly small when over the highway.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 04:44 AM   #5670
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How big are the ones in Germany? These are about 2.2 meters in length/width but they look fairly small when over the highway.
I have a Question , does WSDOT actually think drivers are going to pay attention and follow these signs? I have a feeling they won't.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 10:08 AM   #5671
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And yet that has no bearing whatsoever on the fact that that is an impressive interchange.
Thank you. There's places with laws that I may not like, but that's got nothing to do with their highways.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 11:38 AM   #5672
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What is a jughandle?
It is a type of facilitated left turn which uses a loop ramp past the intersection to substitute two right turns for the left turn. It spares you from having to wait for a gap in oncoming traffic (in the case of permissive left turns) or a left-turn phase (protected-only left turns), but it requires that you pass through the intersection twice--once on the original road and again on the cross road.
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Old May 7th, 2010, 05:02 PM   #5673
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What is a jug handle?
In addition to what J N Winkler said (actually, I'm not sure I'd call what he describes a jughandle, but Wikipedia does), it's a sort of turn-right-to-turn-left thing. The reason for the name is, they look like this:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=4...,0.016501&z=16

The two little things on US 22 just west of Lawrence Avenue (I grew up a mile or so from here) are a pair of jughandles. If you orient the map so that 22 runs top to bottom and imagine that one of the jughandles isn't there, what you're left with looks like a handle on a jug.... (This, to me, as opposed to the sort of one-leaf-of-a-clover thing, is a classic jughandle. Wikipedia uses the term for either one.)

The highway is divided here, so what you can do at these particular jughandles is make a U-turn (if you're going west on 22, it would also permit you to turn back east so you can make that turn at Lawrence). You pull into the jughandle and wait for a light to stop highway traffic so that you can turn left onto the far side of the highway.

I had no idea that, as Wikipedia tells me, they're peculiar to the Northeast.

Wiki article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jughandle. The New Jersey signage in the second picture's also a few miles from where I grew up.

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Old May 7th, 2010, 10:40 PM   #5674
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There are no jughandle-like items anywhere around where I live, in southwest Virginia. I know a bit about highways throughout the state, and I've never seen such an intersection. What we do to provide a way for U-turns is just widen the median a bit, add left turn lanes, and pave across the median to let traffic cross. This is usually done just with a T intersection, to allow both sides to take a U-turn, rather than just the side that would access the other road by turning left. This is rarely done along stretches of highway without other intersecting roads, and unnecessary with + intersections as there are already left-turn lanes on both sides of the road.
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I have a Question , does WSDOT actually think drivers are going to pay attention and follow these signs? I have a feeling they won't.
Well, in the first couple months of operations, I highly doubt anyone will pay attention. But education is key.

But these are enforceable speed limits. And if there's one thing Washington police is good at, it's enforcing speed limits, and not much else.

If worst comes to worst, there's always automated cameras...
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In addition to what J N Winkler said (actually, I'm not sure I'd call what he describes a jughandle, but Wikipedia does), it's a sort of turn-right-to-turn-left thing. The reason for the name is, they look like this:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=4...,0.016501&z=16

The two little things on US 22 just west of Lawrence Avenue (I grew up a mile or so from here) are a pair of jughandles. If you orient the map so that 22 runs top to bottom and imagine that one of the jughandles isn't there, what you're left with looks like a handle on a jug.... (This, to me, as opposed to the sort of one-leaf-of-a-clover thing, is a classic jughandle. Wikipedia uses the term for either one.)

The highway is divided here, so what you can do at these particular jughandles is make a U-turn (if you're going west on 22, it would also permit you to turn back east so you can make that turn at Lawrence). You pull into the jughandle and wait for a light to stop highway traffic so that you can turn left onto the far side of the highway.

I had no idea that, as Wikipedia tells me, they're peculiar to the Northeast.

Wiki article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jughandle. The New Jersey signage in the second picture's also a few miles from where I grew up.
Yep. The cloverleaf is a "reverse jughandle". The idea is to remove the conflict involved in turning left from the main road to the side roads, thus improving consistency of flow. Once you figure them out, they actually do work quite well.
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interesting article on the new dynamic lane on the 110 north out of Downtown Los Angeles

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Normally i would say that's a nice classic flyover split interchange , but I don't respect Arizona anymore
That's too bad, because I'm Latino and I respect Arizona even more. State's Rights is not a bad word(and in regards to highways, I'd say it makes this thread even more interesting). If some states want to go to Clearview signage, then that's their prerogative. I'm just fine with Highway Gothic.
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Guess it!

The experienced user can tell where this is based on lane count, pavement color and HOV-layout.
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