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Old May 25th, 2010, 03:21 AM   #5701
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Some pics from a city we don't here see too often Detroit these are from I-75the main north-south interstate in the region thanks to Hellfighter and dougtone for the pics

Northbound approaching downtown Detroit

Around two miles of mainline and the interchanges with I-96 and Ambassdor Bridge were recently rebuilt.

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The Stroh Brewery was just beyond this the 75/375 interchange requiring very tight ramps

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I-75 approaching downtown

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Interchage with I-94
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Old May 25th, 2010, 03:40 AM   #5702
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Some pics from a city we don't here see too often Detroit these are from I-75 the main north south interstate in the region thanks Hellfire and dougtone for the pics
Those clearview signs look smexy!!!
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Old May 25th, 2010, 06:24 AM   #5703
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Those clearview signs look smexy!!!
Yep, IMO, Clearview is a clear winner!
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Old May 25th, 2010, 06:59 AM   #5704
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Yep, IMO, Clearview is a clear winner!
Clearview is evil and must be stopped.

Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and Brazil: Promise you'll never abandon Highway Gothic. I will throw up if you fall prey to the Clearview trap. Literally puke my guts if I see other countries opt for this ugly, ugly font.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 07:25 AM   #5705
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Wow the routes in Detroit look a lot better than I remember. Before they were old, bumpy, cracked highways with garbage all over the place. I'm sure the garbage will come back eventually though.


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Clearview is evil and must be stopped.

Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, and Brazil: Promise you'll never abandon Highway Gothic. I will throw up if you fall prey to the Clearview trap. Literally puke my guts if I see other countries opt for this ugly, ugly font.
Canada is trying it out right now, replacing some signs with it.

I don't see what the big deal is. As long as you can read the text, does it really matter what the text's style is? As long as it isn't absurd like this sentence.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 02:20 PM   #5706
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Wow the routes in Detroit look a lot better than I remember. Before they were old, bumpy, cracked highways with garbage all over the place. I'm sure the garbage will come back eventually though.




Canada is trying it out right now, replacing some signs with it.

I don't see what the big deal is. As long as you can read the text, does it really matter what the text's style is? As long as it isn't absurd like this sentence.
But the other countries I listed? They are not replacing their Highway Gothic with Clearview(and I hope they never do).
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Old May 25th, 2010, 06:39 PM   #5707
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Like was previously said, I don't think the makers of clearview cared how aesthetically pleasing it was, they just want it to be legible from far away.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 07:29 PM   #5708
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I didn't know the Davison Freeway had a number.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 07:30 PM   #5709
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Yeah. It was the first freeway in Michigan if I'm not mistaken. And one of the first depressed ones in an urban area.
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Old May 25th, 2010, 07:41 PM   #5710
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Yeah. It was the first freeway in Michigan if I'm not mistaken. And one of the first depressed ones in an urban area.
I think I remember seeing it on maps that go back to the 40s, so you're probably right. Maybe it wasn't numbered because the city was responsible (or, since it passes through one or two suburbs, the cities or the counties). Just like the Périphérique.

Suppose a check of Wikipedia is in order.

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"Named for an English immigrant to the area, Davison Avenue was originally the only street connecting across Highland Park to Detroit. It was rebuilt by the city and Wayne County as a freeway during World War II. The roadway was transferred to the jurisdiction of the Michigan Department of Transportation (MDOT) in 1993 and numbered as M-8. Subsequent changes by the state rebuilt the freeway and extended the M-8 designation to connect to the Jeffries Freeway (I-96)."
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Old May 26th, 2010, 01:01 AM   #5711
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Like was previously said, I don't think the makers of clearview cared how aesthetically pleasing it was, they just want it to be legible from far away.
That's exactly the problem. Highway Gothic looks good AND is legible from a far distance. Whoever came up with Clearview was solving a problem that nobody had.

“Highway Gothic now, Highway Gothic tomorrow and Highway Gothic forever!”
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Old May 26th, 2010, 01:30 AM   #5712
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^ Though I agree Highway Gothic looks better, clearview is more easily distinguishable from longer distances.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 02:07 AM   #5713
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After driving several freeways with Clearview as the dominant font for most highway signs, I have to say I prefer Clearview over Highway Gothic. The latter will always have its charms though, and it is still superior on signs with black text on a light background.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 02:10 AM   #5714
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Photos: America's Scariest Highways

America's Scariest Highways
When driving on the country's picturesque arteries, ignore the sights and pay attention to the road.
By Tim Kiladze

Mark Sedenquist and Megan Edwards' California home was destroyed by a forest fire in 1993. Instead of rebuilding, the couple bought an RV and took to the open road, traveling across the U.S. and Canada for almost seven years.

The co..uple has since settled in Las Vegas, but they continue to take driving vacations and encourage others to do the same on their website, RoadTrip America, which they run through Flattop Productions, their small business. Sedenquist and Edwards estimate they've traveled over 650,000 miles.

To identify the nation's scariest highways we sought advice from Sedenquist and Edwards, as well as from Marree Forbes (no affiliation with Forbes Inc.), who runs the site American Driving Vacations, and Robert Dolezal, author of The Most Scenic Drives in America: 120 Spectacular Road Trips...............

Angeles Crest Highway (California)
Located in the California interior, this highway heads northeast through the mountains from Los Angeles. Much of it is a two-lane road on which motorcycle and sports car drivers love to speed.

Highway 1 (Florida)
Outside of Key West this roadway turns into a two-lane bridge that crosses an expansive body of shallow water that reflects blinding sunlight. On top of that, "it's really tough for the driver to stay focused because everything around you is so blue," Sedenquist says. This stretch of highway is also troublesome during hurricane warnings because it is the only way out and gets packed with evacuees.

U.S. Route 50 (Nevada)
Called "The Loneliest Road in America" by Life in 1986, this Nevada highway is eerie because there is so little around it. "It's not uncommon for more than 30 minutes to pass before you spot another car," Dolezal says. "It brings out all those UFO and buzzard-circling fears, along with more reasonable ones about your car breaking down."

Interstate 70 (Colorado)
I-70 through Denver has one of the highest passes on all the interstates, and its steep hills can be extremely slick in the winter. In bad weather "you just stay in your lane, don't touch your brakes, and hope you make it to the bottom," Sedenquist says.

Saddle Road (Hawaii)
Saddle Road winds through the Hualalai and Kohala Volcanoes, and much of it is comprised of only two very narrow lanes. To make things worse, some of its bridges are only one-way, meaning drivers must take turns crossing--but they don't always follow this rule.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 04:44 AM   #5715
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That should say west of Denver. I-70 through Denver is your typical urban highway through relatively flat land. You don't start climbing hills until you are well west of the city.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 06:34 AM   #5716
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*Toronto is in Canada. This thread's about the US
It was a really lame attempt at humor....
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Old May 26th, 2010, 06:51 AM   #5717
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^ Though I agree Highway Gothic looks better, clearview is more easily distinguishable from longer distances.
I agree, I like Clearview, especially when it's white-on-blue. Some pictures:

Clearview white-on-blue at Seattle Tacoma International Airport



Gothic white-on-green and Clearview white-on-blue side by side





I also tried a mock version of Clearview on one of my presentations for class. People sitting in the back of my class really liked it.
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Old May 26th, 2010, 11:43 AM   #5718
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About the US 50 in Nevada as the "loneliest highway", isn't this more marketing than truth? I always thought US 6 in Western Utah/Eastern Nevada is far more desolate.
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Old May 29th, 2010, 11:00 PM   #5719
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Scary stuff:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/...sh.WFAA?hpt=C2

It seems like it's entirely the car's fault for hitting the truck. But I'd also say:

1. The truck is impeding passing traffic, since the right lane was travelling faster than the middle lane
2. Passing the truck on the right is extremely dangerous, even though it's legal in the U.S.

Either way, this looks like something that "Keep Right Except to Pass" and "No Passing on the Right" would have been able to prevent, or at least reduce the severity of it. The tight curve on that highway didn't help the situation very much either.

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Old May 29th, 2010, 11:17 PM   #5720
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"Scariest Highway"? Try US 550 from Durango Colorado to Montrose CO. Especially in the winter. High mountain passes, steep drop-offs and lonely too!

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