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Old August 6th, 2010, 12:41 AM   #5921
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Just a quip, is Metro Detroit really shrinking that badly? I know a few places in Southeastern Michigan are holding steady, namely Ann Arbor.

Anyways, the article on a I-422 is interesting. Realistically, could they make a toll road? I know under most circumstances tolls != interstate, but what about a special deal?
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Old August 6th, 2010, 04:44 AM   #5922
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Whether metro Detroit is shrinking, I don't know. The population within city limits is less than half of what it was in 1950. (See the chart about halfway down the page here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit,_Michigan)
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Old August 6th, 2010, 04:47 AM   #5923
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Just a quip, is Metro Detroit really shrinking that badly? I know a few places in Southeastern Michigan are holding steady, namely Ann Arbor.
I think that Detroit is shrinking, but the suburbs are holding steady.

Perhaps though, with the current economic climate, they might be.
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Old August 6th, 2010, 04:49 AM   #5924
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Every city is doing , Newark did it , Camden plans on doing along with Baltimore , DC , New Haven , Hartford , Trenton ,etc. But projects like these make it appear as there sugar coating the cities problems.
Hartford never really "renovated" anything, most of the redevelopment projects were in the downtown.
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Old August 6th, 2010, 11:29 AM   #5925
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Hartford never really "renovated" anything, most of the redevelopment projects were in the downtown.
That New Rail line and future Transit system will give it the much needed push to be redeveloped.
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Old August 6th, 2010, 11:50 AM   #5926
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Perhaps in the future, but they keep on pushing those projects so back that they aren't relevant atm.

Connecticut is a terrible state when it comes to transportation. They still dislike public transport, but sit on their hands when it comes to highways.

To the state's credit though, I see more construction going on in recent days. Maybe that stimulus money is starting to kick in here.
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Old August 6th, 2010, 02:28 PM   #5927
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Perhaps in the future, but they keep on pushing those projects so back that they aren't relevant atm.

Connecticut is a terrible state when it comes to transportation. They still dislike public transport, but sit on their hands when it comes to highways.

To the state's credit though, I see more construction going on in recent days. Maybe that stimulus money is starting to kick in here.
Depends , Southern CT the mood is towards Transit and Rail. Northern CT is against it except Hartford form what i'm told. But its strange even with Rail service to cities like Waterbury and Danbury there still anti-Transit I think it will change , when gas goes up again. The New Haven-Springfield line should open up in a few years. And the Full build plan should be done by the end of the decade. The last DOT leader was very Transit friendly , so is rell. But most of the improvements went to the NEC area.
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Old August 6th, 2010, 04:13 PM   #5928
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Perhaps in the future, but they keep on pushing those projects so back that they aren't relevant atm.

Connecticut is a terrible state when it comes to transportation. They still dislike public transport, but sit on their hands when it comes to highways.

To the state's credit though, I see more construction going on in recent days. Maybe that stimulus money is starting to kick in here.
Sounds like my region in Florida.
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Old August 9th, 2010, 02:07 PM   #5929
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Old August 10th, 2010, 12:02 AM   #5930
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It looks like they're expanding the express lanes in a certain area.
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Old August 10th, 2010, 02:59 AM   #5931
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It looks like they're expanding the express lanes in a certain area.
That's heading eastbound out of Seattle, WA.

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Old August 10th, 2010, 11:15 AM   #5932
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HOV lanes are great. Anything that makes the americans think a little bit about being more ecological is great. They drive massive polluting cars by themselves. This at least reduces the amount of cars. I am not saying it's necessarily a good idea but it puts the idea of being eco friendly in people's minds. Another thing that's going on in Europe is taxing cars according to their emissions. I know they've done this in US as well but when I visited the east coast I, honestly, did not see a single small car. Did see a few Toyota Prius but that's as far as it goes.

Don't get me wrong. I love america and the fact that everything is BIGGER in there, but the fact is that they got 4-5% of the population of earth yet produce 20% of man-made pollution. The climate is changing quicker than the scientists expected and we must do everything in our power to stop the change. Hence, HOV lanes have the principle but I'm sure there's better things that could be done in this matter.
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Old August 10th, 2010, 08:19 PM   #5933
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I-696 sometimes jokingly referred to the Detroit's Autobahn due to the seemingly lack of speed limits by drivers

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Old August 10th, 2010, 10:46 PM   #5934
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Bit outside your usual territory, isn't it? :-)
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Old August 10th, 2010, 10:48 PM   #5935
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HOV lanes are great. Anything that makes the americans think a little bit about being more ecological is great. They drive massive polluting cars by themselves. This at least reduces the amount of cars. I am not saying it's necessarily a good idea but it puts the idea of being eco friendly in people's minds. Another thing that's going on in Europe is taxing cars according to their emissions. I know they've done this in US as well but when I visited the east coast I, honestly, did not see a single small car. Did see a few Toyota Prius but that's as far as it goes.

Don't get me wrong. I love america and the fact that everything is BIGGER in there, but the fact is that they got 4-5% of the population of earth yet produce 20% of man-made pollution. The climate is changing quicker than the scientists expected and we must do everything in our power to stop the change. Hence, HOV lanes have the principle but I'm sure there's better things that could be done in this matter.
Now all we need is to get the French (and their neighbors) to stop forming hundreds of miles of traffic jams every summer weekend, with the best trains in the world sometimes within sight of the roads.... (Take that as a reflection on human nature, and pessimism about how easy it is to change people's habits.)
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Old August 10th, 2010, 10:51 PM   #5936
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I think the reason HOV is working in the US is that there is a lack of public transport. HOV probably substitutes that. HOV never worked in Europe, a trial in the Netherlands was a major flop.
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Old August 11th, 2010, 03:06 AM   #5937
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Actually HOV was a flop in many major US cities which is why they have converted and still are converting them into "express" toll lanes and keeping the HOV status as well. They are referred to as "lexus lanes" because the wealthy can easily afford a toll and get home quicker but even with that principle I kind of like these because it gets you out of traffic.

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Old August 11th, 2010, 04:26 AM   #5938
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HOV lanes are usually not very utilized here in the Hartford area. Both I-91 north of the city, and I-84 east of it have HOV lanes for significant sections. I did notice that they are used heavily by buses though, to deal with the traffic during the rush hour.

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Some areas have HOV restrictions only during rush hour.
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My state used to have a large HOV network but for some wacky reason got rid of it. We can sure use it now....
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