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Old September 15th, 2010, 06:17 AM   #6061
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What i waste of tax payer $$$$ , spend it on something else.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 06:35 AM   #6062
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Why not compromise and make "bilingual signs"? They would show both metric and imperial measurements so it wouldn't confuse people.

The USA is like, 1 of 3 remaining countries that does not use the metric system? Perhaps dual signage is a good way to start shifting to the norm.

Then again I know very little about the metric Vs. imperial debate. I hate conversions, so using one system is a plus, at least in my opinion.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 06:56 AM   #6063
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What's wasteful about replacing out of date signs?

It was local opposition to the changeover along I-19, however, that prompted the state to slow the process and miss the March 2 deadline to spend the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act money on the overhaul. The project, which the state calls a “safety priority” because the old signs are not reflective enough at night, is now suspended.
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Old September 15th, 2010, 10:24 AM   #6064
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i began reading this thread from the first response until i reached #2 and saw the response. first, i realized that the validity of the argument was w/out merit simply on the basis of the violation of federal government mandates regarding the violation of constitutional rights based on race, creed, color, national origin, ethnicity, etc. consequently, as these are mandated protected classes, the premise was already in its argument. if it were not for this argument, i think it could be a partial---or at least a workable version for the current quagmire facing the city of memphis regarding the use of city thoroughfares by suburbanites into and out of the city for work, entertainment, and other reasons. as they are suburbnites, and do not pay the same tax structure as the citizens of memphis, their taxes are much lower, but they enjoy the many 12 lane expressways into and out of the city daily. tolls have been suggested as a means to collect revenue from those who fail to hold a city identification card indicating their taxation in both the city and the county. perhaps, even though this subject is not on point, someone might have experienced something similar or something a bit more fair to all in the city proper, the county, and the metro in general. shelby county is not a consolidated government, and therefore taxes are lower for county residents. residents in the city proper pay both city and county taxes, and commuters living in 7 additional counties---2 in tn, in addition to shelby, 4 in ms, and 1 in arkansas. consolidation of shelby county is on the ballot for the nov 2 election; however, it is, after three previous attempts, almost a dead horse already. shelby county has roughly 1 million residents, but the city proper has about 700,000+ residents.

a similar use of services by metro residents has existed for many years concerning one of the level 1 trauma centers known as "the med" in the center city in memphis. it is the busiest trauma 1 center in the united states, and it serves memphis, the surrounding metro tn counties, the memphis ms metro counties, and the metro west memphis, arkansas county of crittenden. until about 6 months ago ms and arkansas did not want to pay for their citizens' use of the facility. after the rather forceful meeting, which outlined the expectations, if services were going to continue, arkansas and ms agreed to contribute an amount acceptable to all involved.

as i understand, most of america's 20 largest cities do not have metro governments. does anyone have any off-the-cuff suggestions or ideas about the usefulness of metro government in general, and/or the best method of collecting the untaxed, who use services paid for by the taxed?
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Old September 15th, 2010, 08:26 PM   #6065
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I-55 (Memphis, TN) upgrade option picked

http://news.tennesseeanytime.org/node/5930

TDOT selected an option to untangle the I-55/Crump Bd interchange in Memphis, TN that will construct free-flow lanes for the I-55 through turns there, while replacing the current cloverleaf interchange with a five point two-lane roundabout that will provide improved access for the local streets and neighborhoods - all while requiring the acquisition and removal of *NO* buildings or houses.

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http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=3...21973&t=k&z=16
I-55 comes in from the south, turns left at the cloverleaf and crosses the bridge over the Mississippi River to the west.

No word on its expected construction schedule.

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Old September 16th, 2010, 03:01 AM   #6066
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Why not compromise and make "bilingual signs"? They would show both metric and imperial measurements so it wouldn't confuse people.

The USA is like, 1 of 3 remaining countries that does not use the metric system? Perhaps dual signage is a good way to start shifting to the norm.

Then again I know very little about the metric Vs. imperial debate. I hate conversions, so using one system is a plus, at least in my opinion.
There are some scattered about in random locations. I remember driving up the 101 in LA area and there were metric/imperial signs. They are also the dark board with reflecting letters signs that will eventually be replaced. I think now that they have switched to the entire sign being reflective, that the white letters on green (which is lighter than the old green) does not provide enough contrast at night.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 07:43 AM   #6067
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http://news.tennesseeanytime.org/node/5930

TDOT selected an option to untangle the I-55/Crump Bd interchange in Memphis, TN that will construct free-flow lanes for the I-55 through turns there, while replacing the current cloverleaf interchange with a five point two-lane roundabout that will provide improved access for the local streets and neighborhoods - all while requiring the acquisition and removal of *NO* buildings or houses.

See:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=3...21973&t=k&z=16
I-55 comes in from the south, turns left at the cloverleaf and crosses the bridge over the Mississippi River to the west.

No word on its expected construction schedule.

I like this one.



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About time they fix that. It's usually faster to take 240 North to 40 West because of that bottleneck.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 08:21 AM   #6068
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Why not compromise and make "bilingual signs"? They would show both metric and imperial measurements so it wouldn't confuse people.

The USA is like, 1 of 3 remaining countries that does not use the metric system? Perhaps dual signage is a good way to start shifting to the norm.

Then again I know very little about the metric Vs. imperial debate. I hate conversions, so using one system is a plus, at least in my opinion.
What we use works just fine for us.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 06:02 PM   #6069
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What we use works just fine for us.
I don't think so, its only used by 2 countries in the northern hemisphere......

You've got to be realistic and accept that in the real world, everyone uses the SI units of measurement. All your Exports to Europe are required to be labeled in Metric Units only.

I have no idea why you're against going metric. Yes, it takes effort but look at other countries that switched - they had no problems, did they? For example, Ireland went metric in 2005 from MPH to Km/h without any serious issues.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 06:25 PM   #6070
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Again with the metric vs imperial? I doubt anything's changed since the last 5 times this discussion was had.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 07:08 PM   #6071
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Because you can't join a "high kilometer club".
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Old September 17th, 2010, 10:59 PM   #6072
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A cool night video of I-110 in Los Angeles. You can see a double HOV-lane here, I believe that's quite a rare feature.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 11:02 PM   #6073
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Wow, that's ******* nice.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 03:27 AM   #6074
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TDOT selected an option to untangle the I-55/Crump Bd interchange...

I like this one.



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I never would've predicted this. Seems a bit underpowered-- to me, it's easy to imagine traffic backed up onto the mainline on the northbound exit to the roundabout. I predict that most of that ramp will be two lanes to provide more storage capacity. Plus, heavy traffic on the southbound entry to I-55 from the roundabout will surely make it nearly impossible for southbound I-55 motorists to exit at McLemore Avenue, especially during the afternoon rush hour. I suppose they could take the preceding exit and go through the roundabout themselves if there's advance notification.

Maintaining traffic during construction should be fun. Maybe a much larger temporary roundabout during removal of the existing bridge and regrading of the eventual roundabout site?
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Old September 18th, 2010, 04:01 AM   #6075
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Kilometers are for pussies.
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Old September 18th, 2010, 05:10 AM   #6076
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I never would've predicted this. Seems a bit underpowered-- to me, it's easy to imagine traffic backed up onto the mainline on the northbound exit to the roundabout. I predict that most of that ramp will be two lanes to provide more storage capacity. Plus, heavy traffic on the southbound entry to I-55 from the roundabout will surely make it nearly impossible for southbound I-55 motorists to exit at McLemore Avenue, especially during the afternoon rush hour. I suppose they could take the preceding exit and go through the roundabout themselves if there's advance notification.

Maintaining traffic during construction should be fun. Maybe a much larger temporary roundabout during removal of the existing bridge and regrading of the eventual roundabout site?
You'd be surprised at the traffic throughput capacity of roundabouts once the locals get accustomed to them and how they work and are to be driven.

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Old September 18th, 2010, 05:12 AM   #6077
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Wow, that's f***ing nice.
Interestingly, that's not an interstate interchange - that's where US 75/TX 121 meet. OTOH, yes, both highways are built to full interstate standards.





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Old September 18th, 2010, 07:11 AM   #6078
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Ha! It's true
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Old September 18th, 2010, 11:02 AM   #6079
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It would be annoying to rename Detroit's Mile roads.

4 mile road becomes 6.4 km road.
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Old September 19th, 2010, 02:25 AM   #6080
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Interestingly, that's not an interstate interchange - that's where US 75/TX 121 meet. OTOH, yes, both highways are built to full interstate standards.





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It's likely in the distant future that US 75 will become an extension of I-45, but that's decades from now.
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