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Old January 4th, 2011, 04:34 AM   #6321
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Just putting this out there, some of us (and increasingly more of us) are governed at certain speed limits in our commercial motor vehicles. My 18-wheeler is governed at 60 MPH throughout the majority of my company of 13,000 18-wheelers. A lot of other trucks are governed in the range of 60-70 MPH. So even though most of you want faster speed limits and think its PERFECTLY safe, a continued increase in someones speed will make it more unsafe because of a greater difference between your and my speed.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 04:51 AM   #6322
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Just putting this out there, some of us (and increasingly more of us) are governed at certain speed limits in our commercial motor vehicles. My 18-wheeler is governed at 60 MPH throughout the majority of my company of 13,000 18-wheelers. A lot of other trucks are governed in the range of 60-70 MPH. So even though most of you want faster speed limits and think its PERFECTLY safe, a continued increase in someones speed will make it more unsafe because of a greater difference between your and my speed.
That's why you gotta be a self-owned driver. It's those company drivers that keep signing away their rights.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 05:17 AM   #6323
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I guess i should have mentioned this as well; either beginning in a few years or already has i don't remember, governors will be mandatory on all new tractors built at no more than 70 MPH, some are even trying to change that to 65MPH.

Sure you can say keep the old truck, but they won't last forever. Second, a lot of states have truck speed limits which are obviously lower than non-commercial traffic; Washington 60mph, Oregon 55, California 55, Montana, Indiana, Texas even has a truck speed limit.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 05:56 AM   #6324
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Found a nice map about general speed limits. Texas is quite a cluster**** ranging between 65 and 80 mph.

I also remember going 80 in Utah last year.
This map is a good example of one simple rule: The higher the density of population the lower the speed limit. As you can see North East (being the most populous part of the U.S.) has the lowest speed limits. It makes sense.

But I still think they should raise speed limits by at least 5 mph everywhere.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 06:04 AM   #6325
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Forget 70 , we should make it 100 in rural areas across the country.
75 would be enough since everyone will go 10 miles over the limit anyways. I'd say that some interstate highways on certain parts should have unlimited speed since they are the same quality or even better than German autobahns. But make whole counties or even states 80mph is a bit too much. Not every road is suited for such speed and we have wayyyyy to many morons on the roads.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 06:08 AM   #6326
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I guess i should have mentioned this as well; either beginning in a few years or already has i don't remember, governors will be mandatory on all new tractors built at no more than 70 MPH, some are even trying to change that to 65MPH.

Sure you can say keep the old truck, but they won't last forever. Second, a lot of states have truck speed limits which are obviously lower than non-commercial traffic; Washington 60mph, Oregon 55, California 55, Montana, Indiana, Texas even has a truck speed limit.
Well that's a damn shame then. I get that it's safety, and I suppose it's better then going completely Euro and banning Semis from the Interstates on Sundays, but still.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 07:10 AM   #6327
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I guess i should have mentioned this as well; either beginning in a few years or already has i don't remember, governors will be mandatory on all new tractors built at no more than 70 MPH, some are even trying to change that to 65MPH.

Sure you can say keep the old truck, but they won't last forever. Second, a lot of states have truck speed limits which are obviously lower than non-commercial traffic; Washington 60mph, Oregon 55, California 55, Montana, Indiana, Texas even has a truck speed limit.
Texas' truck limit is 70, meaning you'll only see it separate on those extremely rural highway sections that are 75 or 80, so it's not a terribly big deal. But the truck limit in California, for instance, is ridiculous. I can understand those limits on steep grades like the Grapevine and Cajon Pass, but 15mph difference between trucks and passenger vehicles is generally not a good idea. That's why Illinois and Ohio did away with their separate truck limits last year.
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Old January 4th, 2011, 07:49 AM   #6328
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What's the normal big-rig truck/lorry speed limit on the otherwise 'unlimited' sections of the German Autobahn system? ISTR that it is in the range of 80 or 100 km/h. OTOH, driving safety is maintained in that the 'slower vehicles keep right' rule is rigidly enforced and adhered to.

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Old January 4th, 2011, 09:21 AM   #6329
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European trucks are generally limited (mechanically) to 50 or 55 mph, in some cases to 60 mph. As far as I know only Russian trucks are not governed.
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75 would be enough since everyone will go 10 miles over the limit anyways. I'd say that some interstate highways on certain parts should have unlimited speed since they are the same quality or even better than German autobahns. But make whole counties or even states 80mph is a bit too much. Not every road is suited for such speed and we have wayyyyy to many morons on the roads.
Studies show people drive the speed their most comfortable with no matter the speed limit that why it recommended that speed be set to 85th percentile of free flowing traffic
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Old January 4th, 2011, 05:19 PM   #6331
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This map is a good example of one simple rule: The higher the density of population the lower the speed limit. As you can see North East (being the most populous part of the U.S.) has the lowest speed limits. It makes sense.

But I still think they should raise speed limits by at least 5 mph everywhere.
Apart from Oregon, Alaska and Hawaii.
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Old January 5th, 2011, 02:13 AM   #6332
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Holy CRAP! I-94 at Telegraph Road, Dearborn, MI:
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Old January 6th, 2011, 10:02 AM   #6333
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Construction commenced this week to expand the I-635, the beltway around Dallas. The northern side will be widened with tolled HOV lanes, partially elevated and partially below grade. The freeway will be widened from 10 to as much as 16 lanes. The projected 2020 traffic volumes are 500.000 vehicles per day. The whole project cost $ 2.7 billion and is one of the largest project in the U.S.



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Old January 6th, 2011, 10:52 AM   #6334
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It's a very impressive project.

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Old January 6th, 2011, 03:53 PM   #6335
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So what is this gonna be? HOV or HOT lanes? Kinda confused here.
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Old January 6th, 2011, 04:07 PM   #6336
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HOT lanes I think. In Texas they call them "managed lanes".
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Old January 7th, 2011, 06:34 AM   #6337
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HOV doesn't work so now the popular thing in America is keeping them for carpooling but also making them express toll lanes.
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Old January 7th, 2011, 09:26 AM   #6338
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HOV commuters make up 12% in Greater Los Angeles. Which means out of 10 lanes it is justified to have 1 HOV lane. Usually there are two.
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New Jersey Turnpike

A very large widening project is the New Jersey Turnpike in the state of... New Jersey. It will be widened for approximately 35 miles, from I-276 near Philadelphia to East Brunswick, extending the local-express setup.

The section from Mansfield northward will be widened from 6 to 12 lanes for about 28 miles. Another 10 miles will be widened from 10 to 12 lanes, making the 12-lane section approximately 70 miles long.

The project started in 2009 and will be completed in 2014 at a cost of $ 2.7 billion. Most interchanges and all overpasses need to be rebuild.

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Old January 7th, 2011, 05:00 PM   #6340
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The wide part of the New Jersey Turnpike is great, the speed limit was 65mph I think, nobody was following it, easily going 80+.
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