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Old January 7th, 2011, 05:02 PM   #6341
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This seems to me an extension of the project to build a 95-276 interchange on the Pennsylvania side and reroute 95 down the New Jersey Turnpike's Pennsylvania extension to the NJ TPK mainline.
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Old January 8th, 2011, 08:55 PM   #6342
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As far as I know only Russian trucks are not governed.
Lithuanian ones too. They are the worst nightmare in Poland. 75 MPH isn't rare (limit: 50).
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Old January 9th, 2011, 03:15 PM   #6343
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The wide part of the New Jersey Turnpike is great, the speed limit was 65mph I think, nobody was following it, easily going 80+.
yeah it's a great expressway, you can also drive 100+ completely drunk and hit highway workers since there is no enforcement

yeah, what a great freeway for idiots!!
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Old January 9th, 2011, 03:48 PM   #6344
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It's a pretty low speed limit though
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Old January 10th, 2011, 11:12 AM   #6345
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Nice cloverstack near St. Louis. Interchange between I-44 and I-270.

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Old January 10th, 2011, 11:16 AM   #6346
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Yes, that's indeed a great looking interchange. I love these interchanges surrounded by trees...
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Old January 10th, 2011, 02:04 PM   #6347
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New Jersey Turnpike

A very large widening project is the New Jersey Turnpike in the state of... New Jersey. It will be widened for approximately 35 miles, from I-276 near Philadelphia to East Brunswick, extending the local-express setup.

The section from Mansfield northward will be widened from 6 to 12 lanes for about 28 miles. Another 10 miles will be widened from 10 to 12 lanes, making the 12-lane section approximately 70 miles long.

The project started in 2009 and will be completed in 2014 at a cost of $ 2.7 billion. Most interchanges and all overpasses need to be rebuild.

Its pretty outrageous that we still let this project go through but halted half of the Rail and Bridge Upgrade projects. And the Corrupted Turnpike Authority needs to shut down......enough of these every rising toll rates....There was alot of opposition to this and parkway widening.....and it still went through....dam corrupted state govt....
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Old January 10th, 2011, 02:13 PM   #6348
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Its pretty outrageous that we still let this project go through but halted half of the Rail and Bridge Upgrade projects. And the Corrupted Turnpike Authority needs to shut down......enough of these every rising toll rates....There was alot of opposition to this and parkway widening.....and it still went through....dam corrupted state govt....
If it is congested, it need widening. Moreover, aren't Turnpike authorities semi-independent? I mean, can't they issue their own bonds, guaranteed and (later) paid by toll fees?

In a scenario of low gas/vehicle taxes like US, tolls are a good way to, in high-trafficked high-cost axes, charge the users for the costs of highways instead of the general population.

I guess the underlying issue is that while tolls are expected to recover part of the costs and, surely, pay for all maintenance costs of the highway once opened, most rail projects not only cannot repay capital initial investment (reasonable) but also they cannot recover maintenance and operating costs further down by tolls. Highways not always can recoup initial investments, but with tolls they can pretty much pay for their operations.

That is the reason they cancelled some transit project in US: even if there were money to build the systems, fares wouldn't recover their later costs once in operation.
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Old January 10th, 2011, 02:54 PM   #6349
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If it is congested, it need widening. Moreover, aren't Turnpike authorities semi-independent? I mean, can't they issue their own bonds, guaranteed and (later) paid by toll fees?

In a scenario of low gas/vehicle taxes like US, tolls are a good way to, in high-trafficked high-cost axes, charge the users for the costs of highways instead of the general population.

I guess the underlying issue is that while tolls are expected to recover part of the costs and, surely, pay for all maintenance costs of the highway once opened, most rail projects not only cannot repay capital initial investment (reasonable) but also they cannot recover maintenance and operating costs further down by tolls. Highways not always can recoup initial investments, but with tolls they can pretty much pay for their operations.

That is the reason they cancelled some transit project in US: even if there were money to build the systems, fares wouldn't recover their later costs once in operation.
Not even close to that with the Transit Argument....its complex...NJ and PA haven't really straighted out there funding system for Transit and roads so its all over the place......As for The Turnpike Authority , they over pay there employees to much and the union and certain politicians have corrupted it.....dipping into revenue and jacking up the Toll rates....The Transit and Park / Recreational agencies have the least amount of corruption.... The Gas Tax is too low in this state too....which results in poor Urban highways and better Rural highways...and no politician wants to touch it so for Transit , Bridge and Tunnel projects they dip into the Toll $$$.....which has resulted in almost dried up Transportation trust fund....
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Old January 12th, 2011, 09:31 PM   #6350
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I-40 through downtown Oklahoma City is under construction getting a new, wider alignment to replace a 40+ year old viaduct



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Old January 13th, 2011, 03:07 AM   #6351
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So I take it they would be eliminating the current I-40 alignment and rerouting it to follow the river and looks like...a couple of parks? Which begs the question, how is the new alignment going to fit in with these parks' characters? (Which itself probably begs the question of whether the Republicans people funding this project even care.)
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Old January 13th, 2011, 03:25 AM   #6352
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Hammersklavier -

The new I-40 alignment is going to be along existing rail lines - click on the Google link in urbanlover's post and you can see the satellite image of the area. Not clear from the image but the area was probably long-abandoned rail classification yards. Putting it there rather than through the heart of the downtown area is probably an aesthetic improvement.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 03:32 AM   #6353
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On second thought, I zoomed in a little more on the current alignment of I-40 - sprawling light industry, parking lots and vacant lots. So the city will have its work cut out for it, in terms of improving the aesthetics after the old freeway is gone.

However, I note that the new alignment has significantly less entry/exit ramps - slightly less convenient, but should substantially improve the safety and the flow of traffic.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 04:00 AM   #6354
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Is anyone going to be doing some video work on the old I-40 alignment before the new one opens?

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Old January 13th, 2011, 09:42 AM   #6355
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Old January 13th, 2011, 11:43 AM   #6356
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If it is congested, it need widening.
#1 rule for roads is that they'll always be congested. the NJT could be expanded to an ungodly 24 lanes and it would still be congested. this project is an embarrassment to NJ.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 01:05 PM   #6357
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#1 rule for roads is that they'll always be congested. the NJT could be expanded to an ungodly 24 lanes and it would still be congested. this project is an embarrassment to NJ.
It was originally 600 million , but now its 2 billion $$....and keeps getting more expensive.... I rather see the state invest in Smart highways then more highway widenings.....but at least we have a no new Highway policy...
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Old January 13th, 2011, 01:29 PM   #6358
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#1 rule for roads is that they'll always be congested. the NJT could be expanded to an ungodly 24 lanes and it would still be congested. this project is an embarrassment to NJ.
What a nonsense. Where did they teach you this stuff?
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Old January 13th, 2011, 04:44 PM   #6359
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Here is a satellite view of the area from 2002. It looks like the riverfront area involved was an open wasteland, probably the site of rail yards previously.

<a href="http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=6&lon=-97.53844288061204&lat=35.45853076373006&year=2002"><img src="http://www.netronline.com/phoenix/apps/img-server.php?op=fetchHistoricPhotograph&width=200&height=200&year=2002&bbox=-97.56022080061204,35.43675284373006,-97.51666496061203,35.48030868373006" alt="historic aerials"/></a>
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http://www.historicaerials.com/aeria...3006&year=2002
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