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Old January 23rd, 2011, 05:02 AM   #6381
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A medium-low busy railway with 4 tph (trains per hour) per direction with 1.000 passengers each nearly equals in one hour a 2x2 motorway considering that most commuters travel alone, one in each car.

The example I love most is Milano-Seregno railway which carries around 35.000 passenger a day increasing from 13.000 without any new infrastructure - new capacity obtained much cheaper than any road widening.
This line serves a high commuter one of 20 in the Northeast , so its used by alot of people. So is 95 , which equally used by the same amount of commuters , but the 95 Daily usage has stayed flat. The Railway has risen , even without the future Penn Station connection , which i find interesting. The Feeder lines in CT have grown by 500-2,000 each but thats due to canceled Expressway projects like the Super 7 , No more Widenings on Route 8 and they Route 8 / Waterbury line TOD projects , TOD along Shore East has really added more ppl to the Rails. CT in recent years has come out with Desenification plans for all its cities and Railway corridor towns which will without a doubt add 10000s more to the Rail. There also building Rail connection services in all the larger towns , so people won't be tempted to drive to the stations instead taking Streetcars / Trams.... But this isn't limited to CT , Rhode Island and Massachusetts are doing the same.
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Old January 23rd, 2011, 05:42 AM   #6382
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Ah, the uber-familiar plaint of the sprawl apologist. I've been told that far too many times to count, mostly by people with a vested interest in the status quo. Answer me this: if roads are irrelevant to the promotion of sprawl, then why are sprawl developers so interested and getting them built (as long as it's not at their expense)?
Sprawl is not necessarily good or bad in itself. It depends how it is managed. You get a whole train (pun intended) of unexpected (but foreseeable) consequences if you try to "tackle" sprawl like you'd tackle drugs, burglaries or illegal immigration:

- housing becomes more expensive per unit, let alone per built area

- retail space becomes more expensive, reducing competition and driving prices up

- families that don't bow to the "urban life" mantra, that'd rather have each child with its own bedroom and a private garden, start to outbid everybody else for the remaining single-house market, making single-houses (detached or not) a luxury

- in turn, this drive out lower income residents or greatly reduces their quality of housing. One of the most dark sides of "smart growth" is that is pushes low-income families into cramped apartments, or forces them to move out of a city that is "meant" not to be easily car-accessible. This push wages up - only to be spent with more expensive housing, feeding the loop

The greatest example of it: New York City. A city where median (far less distorted than average) income is 39% higher than median American household income, whilst the cost-of-living index was about 145-155 (100 being the national US average).

Seattle and Portland (particularly the latter) performed poorly: they became more expensive, more congested and with ever-increasing deficit-ridden transit systems (a financial unsustainable transit system will get "redder" - not "blacker" - when it is expanded and more services provided).

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Having said that, I really should give you a break. As a Dutchman, you've already seen one alternative for our future, and I can hardly blame you for not being impressed. Plenty of rail, even in combination with the Dutch enthusiasm for cycling and a degree of planning that the US will never come close to attaining, is not enough to yield a reasonably congestion-free transportation network, and it must be really irritating to hear people insist that it will.
Never underestimate the effect (mild) climate and a terrain that is COMPLETELY flat in 90% of the country has on this "cycling culture". Trains here, despite ubiquitous, will almost always yield SLOWER travel time than car - even with congestion - unless you live in close proximity (like 5 min walking) of some of its 240 train station - all of that in a country where 16,1 million people live in a land area the size of Maryland.

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Where did you get the idea that I'm "gleeful" about any of this? Waste of societal resources on a massive scale is cause for alarm, not glee. I'll also point out: overbuilding itself is sideways to the issue of spawl versus sustainability, caused by a vast oversupply of capital that led, as usual, to a bubble economy that was destined to collaspe catastrophically, as it always does. Developers of all stripes have lost their shirts.
Credit considerations aside, oversupply of construction can be easily offset (automatically) by less construction activity the years following a real estate bubble burst.
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Old January 24th, 2011, 03:18 AM   #6383
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Old January 25th, 2011, 12:16 AM   #6384
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Well I hope you're happy. All those "bad old developers" lost their shirts in the Financial Meltdown and will be down for the count for the foreseeable future.
Hopefully, local politics will be less corrupt as a result.

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I know developers(large and small), and they are good, honest people just like you and me. Is it so wrong that they want to buy up land, put down houses and stores, and make money from that?
Yes, when they do it in a wasteful manner with only instant profitability in mind, rather than long-term impact on the community and environment.

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We all want to make money, to be successful, to succeed. A lot of people have failed in the last 3 years and maybe that makes you happy that "developers" got hit the worst but I'm not gleeful about it at all.
Money is a means to an end, not the end itself. One of our biggest problems in American society is that we've confused the two.

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Sprawl is not necessarily good or bad in itself. It depends how it is managed. You get a whole train (pun intended) of unexpected (but foreseeable) consequences if you try to "tackle" sprawl like you'd tackle drugs, burglaries or illegal immigration:

- housing becomes more expensive per unit, let alone per built area
Not an issue if wages are concurrently rising.

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- retail space becomes more expensive, reducing competition and driving prices up
Once again, not an issue if wages are rising.

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- families that don't bow to the "urban life" mantra, that'd rather have each child with its own bedroom and a private garden, start to outbid everybody else for the remaining single-house market, making single-houses (detached or not) a luxury
Seems like paying a premium to get precisely what one wants is exactly how the market is supposed to work.

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- in turn, this drive out lower income residents or greatly reduces their quality of housing. One of the most dark sides of "smart growth" is that is pushes low-income families into cramped apartments, or forces them to move out of a city that is "meant" not to be easily car-accessible. This push wages up - only to be spent with more expensive housing, feeding the loop
Higher wages are a good thing. Low prices are not necessarily so, such as when they come at the expense of domestic jobs.

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The greatest example of it: New York City. A city where median (far less distorted than average) income is 39% higher than median American household income, whilst the cost-of-living index was about 145-155 (100 being the national US average).

Seattle and Portland (particularly the latter) performed poorly: they became more expensive, more congested and with ever-increasing deficit-ridden transit systems (a financial unsustainable transit system will get "redder" - not "blacker" - when it is expanded and more services provided).
Prices rise in these places not because of any inherent defect in the smart growth strategies; it's because places that are built in such a way attract a high level of demand. New York is expensive because it's 8 million people living in a small area, and more are constantly moving in. The Pacific NW also falls into this category - there's high demand for its inherent amenities, especially among people with high incomes. That's just the market at work.

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Never underestimate the effect (mild) climate and a terrain that is COMPLETELY flat in 90% of the country has on this "cycling culture". Trains here, despite ubiquitous, will almost always yield SLOWER travel time than car - even with congestion - unless you live in close proximity (like 5 min walking) of some of its 240 train station - all of that in a country where 16,1 million people live in a land area the size of Maryland.
There are other reasons to prefer the train than speed. Safety, cost, driving stress, etc. all factor into what mode of transportation one takes. At least in most parts of the Netherlands, there is an option.

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Credit considerations aside, oversupply of construction can be easily offset (automatically) by less construction activity the years following a real estate bubble burst.
Which kills jobs, collapses housing prices, lowering wages, which lowers sales of other goods, which leads to more layoffs, etc. What you're describing is the deflationary spiral of an oversupply crisis. That was one of the things that made the Great Depression as bad as it was. That "offset" makes the problem worse!
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Old January 25th, 2011, 10:03 AM   #6385
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Nice pics Nexis. Big Dig was very expensive, took forever, and had questionable management but the end product has been mostly good. No more aging overpasses all over downtown anymore and going through is less of a pain, it's a shame though with all the costs accrued, it doesn't look like other cities will be taking Boston's path anytime soon.

Zakim Bridge is pretty nice too, love it's design.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 05:57 PM   #6386
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#1 rule for roads is that they'll always be congested. the NJT could be expanded to an ungodly 24 lanes and it would still be congested. this project is an embarrassment to NJ.
Exactly. There's something ridiculous like that in DT Atlanta. And...still congested.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 08:14 PM   #6387
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Nice pics Nexis. Big Dig was very expensive, took forever, and had questionable management but the end product has been mostly good. No more aging overpasses all over downtown anymore and going through is less of a pain, it's a shame though with all the costs accrued, it doesn't look like other cities will be taking Boston's path anytime soon.

Zakim Bridge is pretty nice too, love it's design.
The poured-in-place box girder bridges and curved tubular sign supports look rather Californian, which is especially startling in the snow.

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Exactly. There's something ridiculous like that in DT Atlanta. And...still congested.
Uh, no. It's ten basic lanes, two HOV's, and a number of auxilliary lanes varying from three to negative two. Big, but not ridiculous, especially for a city of that size.
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Old January 26th, 2011, 10:44 PM   #6388
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I-495 North in Mass

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Worcester Union Station ... Serving MBTA Worcester line , Amtrak Lakeshore limited , future Amtrak High Speed Rail service , MBTA Woonsocket and New London lines& Future Worcester Streetcar network

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Old January 27th, 2011, 01:10 AM   #6389
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Uh, no. It's ten basic lanes, two HOV's, and a number of auxilliary lanes varying from three to negative two. Big, but not ridiculous, especially for a city of that size.
10 + how many?...And still congested.

Atlanta is the 4th worst ranked city for traffic (Forbes). Behind only sprawler DC, the SF Bay area, and Los Angeles metro. Traffic congestion eventually becomes a handicap in attracting businesses to a city. Not to mention how it's a definite quality of life consideration in the choice of metro areas in relocating. Being a suburban Long Islander, I would definitely concur with that.

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There is no shortage of hard data. A recent University of California at Berkeley study covering thirty California counties between 1973 and 1990 found that, for every 10 percent increase in roadway capacity, traffic increased 9 percent within four years' time. For anecdotal evidence, one need only look at commuting patterns in those cities with expensive new highway systems. USA Today published the following report on Atlanta: "For years, Atlanta tried to ward off traffic problems by building more miles of highways per capita than any other urban area except Kansas City ... As a result of the area's sprawl, Atlantans now drive an average of 35 miles a day, more than residents of any other city." This phenomenon, which is now well known to those members of the transportation industry who wish to acknowledge it, has come to be called induced traffic.

The mechanism at work behind induced traffic is elegantly explained by an aphorism gaining popularity among traffic engineers: "Trying to cure traffic congestion by adding more capacity is like trying to cure obesity by loosening your belt." Increased traffic capacity makes longer commutes less burdensome, and as a result, people are willing to live farther and farther from their workplace.
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Old January 27th, 2011, 03:14 AM   #6390
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10 + how many?...And still congested.

Atlanta is the 4th worst ranked city for traffic (Forbes). Behind only sprawler DC, the SF Bay area, and Los Angeles metro. Traffic congestion eventually becomes a handicap in attracting businesses to a city. Not to mention how it's a definite quality of life consideration in the choice of metro areas in relocating. Being a suburban Long Islander, I would definitely concur with that.



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Its rapidly changing to Dense DC.....you blink and sprawl is gone.....meanwhile on the NOVA side the same is happening.....and in Maryland. The population is also shifting....to along Transit corridors...
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Old January 27th, 2011, 03:41 AM   #6391
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Downtown Hartford

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Its rapidly changing to Dense DC.....you blink and sprawl is gone.....meanwhile on the NOVA side the same is happening.....and in Maryland. The population is also shifting....to along Transit corridors...
Do you ever check Google Earth? DC is massively sprawled.
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Do you ever check Google Earth? DC is massively sprawled.
Yea , but the changeover is happening and fast. Form the core outwards.....in NOVA and Maryland its happening along the Transit corridors and outward.
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End of I-684 , exiting onto I-287 West

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I-87 Interchange...

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Old January 28th, 2011, 03:40 AM   #6395
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10 + how many?...And still congested.
Dude, I'm on your side. I don't like sprawl, either, and I fought it hard for several years. But you said that there was a twenty lane freeway in downtown Atlanta, and there isn't.

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Old January 29th, 2011, 06:29 AM   #6396
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Nice pics Nexis. Big Dig was very expensive, took forever, and had questionable management but the end product has been mostly good. No more aging overpasses all over downtown anymore and going through is less of a pain, it's a shame though with all the costs accrued, it doesn't look like other cities will be taking Boston's path anytime soon.

Zakim Bridge is pretty nice too, love it's design.
The Big Dig is cool, but I kinda wish I had the chance to drive the green monster with the amazing views it must have given of downtown.
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Old January 31st, 2011, 01:54 AM   #6397
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#1 rule for roads is that they'll always be congested. the NJT could be expanded to an ungodly 24 lanes and it would still be congested. this project is an embarrassment to NJ.
I never thought about it that way, but that makes sense. The reason these downtown interstates are so congested is not necessarily the number of vehicles, but that most of the drivers want to get off or on the road within a relatively few exits.
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Old January 31st, 2011, 03:33 AM   #6398
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Thanks for good report, Nexis. I wanna drive that route sometime too.
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Old January 31st, 2011, 06:32 AM   #6399
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I remember taking this road early morning in the summer, cool drive coming from the mountains.
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Old January 31st, 2011, 05:14 PM   #6400
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The Big Dig is cool, but I kinda wish I had the chance to drive the green monster with the amazing views it must have given of downtown.
I suppose so, but there are still nice views of the skyline to be had when driving up I-93 before it goes underground.
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