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Old March 7th, 2011, 09:34 AM   #6541
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Old March 7th, 2011, 01:10 PM   #6542
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What I-195?

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I wonder how disillusioned Nexis must be if he comes to the Netherlands, or France, or Germany, or Denmark, or whatever European countries which have 2 - 3 times higher fuel prices than the US, what he calls an "oil crisis".
We panic when it hits 4-6$ , were not used to that.....it happened in 2008.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 02:59 PM   #6543
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@Nexis: uhh... are you sure that's the demolition of I-195 in Providence? Part of I-195 was rerouted through the city to, as you stated, reclaim space downtown, but I-195 as a route still exists in its entirety.
http://www.dot.state.ri.us/engineeri...n/195intro.asp
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Old March 7th, 2011, 03:15 PM   #6544
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hi,

i was wondering : what is the "capital(s)" of the Us regarding freeways. Consider only large cities ; a short list is ok ; by "capital" I mean where we find network highest density, state of the art freeways, freeways as the main or only transportation resource...

And how is the congestion in this (these) city(ies)? Why?
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Old March 7th, 2011, 03:15 PM   #6545
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@Nexis: uhh... are you sure that's the demolition of I-195 in Providence? Part of I-195 was rerouted through the city to, as you stated, reclaim space downtown, but I-195 as a route still exists in its entirety.
http://www.dot.state.ri.us/engineeri...n/195intro.asp
Well the old ROW is being demolished....
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Old March 7th, 2011, 05:19 PM   #6546
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i was wondering : what is the "capital(s)" of the Us regarding freeways. Consider only large cities ; a short list is ok ; by "capital" I mean where we find network highest density, state of the art freeways, freeways as the main or only transportation resource...

And how is the congestion in this (these) city(ies)? Why?
If you consider the variables you pointed out, I'd go for Houston Metro. If you consider population, Kansas City does nice also.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 05:28 PM   #6547
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Kansas City has the best freeway lane mileage vs population ratio. Dallas is also pretty high on that list, but the freeway capacity in the DFW area is unevenly distributed. Los Angeles, New York and Chicago are one of the worst.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 06:59 PM   #6548
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It's time to end the Applachian Development Highway System. It has turned into a massive subsidy enabling Southern states to get more than their fair share of highway funds for new road construction while other states struggle to maintain their existing roads.

Why are we building roads to attract NEW development? That is absurd. We need to build roads to serve areas growing on their own, not induce more sprawl especially with permanent high gas prices on the horizon.
And Southern states are not also struggling to maintain its roads?. The point of this program in the first place is the provide a better road system in the Applachian region, not just some government free for all.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 07:27 PM   #6549
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And Southern states are not also struggling to maintain its roads?. The point of this program in the first place is the provide a better road system in the Applachian region, not just some government free for all.
Virginia is having it tough lately, but we've apparently been able to start a large upgrade of the Capital Beltway. One major future project is to upgrade Interstate 81, which is 4 lanes most of its length through Virginia and is in dire need of simple maintenance, let alone the upgrade it deserves to properly carry its heavy traffic. Several ideas have been proposed in the past decade to upgrade it, most including tolls, but the money mysteriously dried up in 2008 so nothing has been done.
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The current work in Providence is putting I-195 where it should have been built in the first place. I have no idea who paid off who to have it put onto that serpentine routing where it originally was.

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Old March 8th, 2011, 05:06 AM   #6551
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I wonder how disillusioned Nexis must be if he comes to the Netherlands, or France, or Germany, or Denmark, or whatever European countries which have 2 - 3 times higher fuel prices than the US, what he calls an "oil crisis".
European vehicles have much greater fuel efficiency and people don't have to drive to get around.
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Old March 8th, 2011, 05:10 AM   #6552
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European vehicles have much greater fuel efficiency and people don't have to drive to get around.
Most Americans remember the terrible 2008 crisis......and there worried about the looming crisis...
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Old March 8th, 2011, 05:12 AM   #6553
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And Southern states are not also struggling to maintain its roads?. The point of this program in the first place is the provide a better road system in the Applachian region, not just some government free for all.
Mission Accomplished. We don't need roads to nowhere in the rural south. Building roads just to stimulate development instead of serving areas that are already developed is a terrible idea.

How many more boondoggles must the South get? You got Reconstruction in the 1870s. Then you got the TVA in the 1930s which provided dirt cheap electricity and navigable waterways and after that you got the Appalachian Development Highway System. Meanwhile all of the donor states are scrambling to find funds just to maintain their existing infrastructure.

What next? Why are we subsidizing the most anti-federal government part of the country?
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Old March 8th, 2011, 05:48 AM   #6554
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Video of brand new Maryland 200 - Phase One

Two weeks ago, the Maryland ICC (Inter-County Connector) opened its first phase. Once completed, the new six lane 18.8 mile highway will link Montgomery County and Prince Georges County. The highway will also connect with the heavily traveled Interstate 95. The project was first conceived in the 1960s to act as a second beltway around the Washington D.C. region and after years of delays an cancellations, the project is months away from being fully completed (though smaller than original plans and without a full circle considering Virginia would be responsible for their side).

The project is highly controversial in the state of Maryland and was revived by former Governor Bob Ehrlich (2002 - 2006), the only Republican Governor to serve Maryland since Spiro Agnew (former disgraced Vice-President under Richard Nixon) held the office in the 1960s (1967 - 1969). Many in Maryland, one of the more liberal states in the country, saw this project as an environmental threat to the recovery of the Chesapeake Bay and a step towards increased suburban sprawl in a section of the state that is home to some of the worst traffic in the country. Despite the controversy surrounding the project, current Democratic Governor Martin O'Malley ( 2006 - Present) allowed for the continuation of the 2.6 Billion dollar project under the condition that the new highway be a toll highway. Maryland 200 (ICC) is arguably the most environmentally safe in the nation because state lawmakers required that the highway have as little environmental impact as possible.

Controversy still surrounds the highway, largely becasue of the environmental impacts, but also because the heavy prices tag associated with the project has put other Maryland transportation projects into question. The Baltimore Red Line (proposed east-west light rail line) is estimated at 1.6 billion dollars and the proposed Purple Line in the suburbs of Washington D.C. is estimated at 1.4 billion dollars. Can the state afford these transit projects deemed vital to restoring the health of the Chesapeake Bay and spurring revitalization in the city of Baltimore? Time will tell, but newly re-elected Governor Martin O'Malley has reiterated his support for these projects time and time again.

Anyway, here's a link to the MD 200 (ICC) website and a video from someone who test drove the new highway when the state opened it up for free for the first several days. The tolls are all automatic with no tolls booths or toll workers. State analysts predict that 90% of ICC drivers will purchase an EZ Pass account. Toll prices will vary based on traffic volume and time of day.

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Old March 8th, 2011, 05:55 AM   #6555
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Mission Accomplished. We don't need roads to nowhere in the rural south. Building roads just to stimulate development instead of serving areas that are already developed is a terrible idea.

How many more boondoggles must the South get? You got Reconstruction in the 1870s. Then you got the TVA in the 1930s which provided dirt cheap electricity and navigable waterways and after that you got the Appalachian Development Highway System. Meanwhile all of the donor states are scrambling to find funds just to maintain their existing infrastructure.

What next? Why are we subsidizing the most anti-federal government part of the country?
What highways are there in the middle of nowhere in the rural south without any purpose?
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Old March 8th, 2011, 06:02 AM   #6556
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Mission Accomplished. We don't need roads to nowhere in the rural south. Building roads just to stimulate development instead of serving areas that are already developed is a terrible idea.

How many more boondoggles must the South get? You got Reconstruction in the 1870s. Then you got the TVA in the 1930s which provided dirt cheap electricity and navigable waterways and after that you got the Appalachian Development Highway System. Meanwhile all of the donor states are scrambling to find funds just to maintain their existing infrastructure.

What next? Why are we subsidizing the most anti-federal government part of the country?
These are not roads to nowhere, for example corridor X (I-22) will connect two mid-size metro areas in this region (Birmingham and Memphis). Again Southern states are also struggling with transportation budgets like anywhere else in the country.

This earmarked money cant just be spent on any road project. It has to qualify for the money.
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Old March 8th, 2011, 06:16 AM   #6557
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And Southern states are not also struggling to maintain its roads?. The point of this program in the first place is the provide a better road system in the Applachian region, not just some government free for all.
The ARC hasn't benefited any states except Kentucky, West Virginia, and Pennsylvania. I-22 would have been built without any sort of ARC promotion, and it was only added to the "Corridor" list when politically convenient.
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Old March 8th, 2011, 06:52 AM   #6558
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Damn I'm jealous of the ICC. So many planned highways around here (From the same area as you) that will never get built.
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Old March 8th, 2011, 01:25 PM   #6559
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Old March 8th, 2011, 09:02 PM   #6560
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This latest Oil crisis , will only increase the demand for Rail and Accelerate Rail projects in this region. There are also a few Highway Demolitions underway I-678 , CT -34 and I-195.... I don't think this oil crisis will go away....and only get worse.... Transit ridership across the US jumped by 10% in the past week.
Nexis, I approve of transit in theory and think we need it. Particularly in urban areas, we need to encourage transit use for everyone for whom it's practical, rather than clogging highways in rush hours. But your expectations that everyone will eagerly jump into trains if we fill the country with railroads are just unrealistic. I live a few blocks from 30th Street Station and have been on a train only once since I acquired a car. (Because I needed to be in the suburbs for a work thing in January and my car was blocked in by a mound of snow a plow had pushed up against it.) If I want to go to Washington, for example, for the afternoon, why should I walk to the station, wait until there's a train (and these days, book it in advance), spend over $100.00 round trip and have to get from Union Station to where I want to be, when I can drive more or less door-to-door on my own time and for a fraction of that cost? If I want to go to my parents for the weekend, it's easier on my mother if she doesn't have to drive to MetroPark to pick me up. Amtrak in the Northeast Corridor has gotten to be a luxury for people who make more money than I do and an overpriced necessity for people who don't own cars. In the rest of the country...?
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