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Old April 1st, 2011, 10:45 AM   #6621
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The ones that look like that are the concrete highways. They only look bad. They are not perfect but not terrible either, I guess they use concrete because it's much stronger and durable than asphalt but of course not as smooth. Concrete roads are much more expensive but they don't need any maintenance for 10-15 years or more

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Old April 1st, 2011, 03:18 PM   #6622
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I meant I know that stretch of 95 well. And that area (I mean the immediate area 95 runs through, right along the river) is becoming hip, and parts of Baltimore are pretty bad.... :-P
I had to go up Board to one of Tempe Univ , and was horrid. Then on the way back on the Trenton line , it wasn't any better intill you got into NJ.
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Old April 1st, 2011, 03:30 PM   #6623
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I had to go up Board to one of Tempe Univ , and was horrid. Then on the way back on the Trenton line , it wasn't any better intill you got into NJ.
Well, yes, obviously one train ride would make you an authority on the area....
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Old April 1st, 2011, 06:33 PM   #6624
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Well, yes, obviously one train ride would make you an authority on the area....
Highway / Train ride , i did go to Center city and Southern area and loved it....but the Northern area left a mark on me.....when you get off the expressway your greeting to a broken building landscape....one would think the city would clean things up...
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Old April 1st, 2011, 06:46 PM   #6625
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Highway / Train ride , i did go to Center city and Southern area and loved it....but the Northern area left a mark on me.....when you get off the expressway your greeting to a broken building landscape....one would think the city would clean things up...
Please. It's that bad along the Trenton line until you get into New Jersey? You do realize that a good 15 miles of the Trenton line is in the suburbs (Bucks County, specifically), and when you get into New Jersey, you're in Trenton? I know very few people who consider Trenton an improvement over Bucks County....

But seriously, what you're seeing there is the death of American manufacturing. Philadelphia was once the biggest manufacturing city in the country. All those abandoned factories are a problem, no doubt about it. But I think you're vastly overstating the extent of it. (Many of the neighborhoods along 95 even in the city of Philadelphia are still fairly healthy working-class neighborhoods - the sort of place one goes for good Polish food - and close to Center City they're gentrifying, although I dislike that word.) Like people who judge New Jersey (my native state, by the way) by what they see on the Turnpike from Linden north.
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Old April 1st, 2011, 11:37 PM   #6626
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The ones that look like that are the concrete highways. They only look bad. They are not perfect but not terrible either, I guess they use concrete because it's much stronger and durable than asphalt but of course not as smooth. Concrete roads are much more expensive but they don't need any maintenance for 10-15 years or more
Good point substance over style!
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 01:14 AM   #6627
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Ohio has excellent road surfaces.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 02:04 AM   #6628
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Arizona, Nevada, Oregon and many parts of Washington State have excellent surfaces as well
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 02:08 AM   #6629
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I-696 in Detroit IMO the best drive in the metro when traffic is flowing.

Is there any specific reason (like it carrying a heavy load) for that truck you see at around 3:55 to have 24 wheels?
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 02:47 AM   #6630
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I'm not trying to insult anyone but why do American roads always look as though they need a good resurfacing? Whenever i do a random jump into street view the roads have always got cracks all over them is it a funding issue?
Lack of funding plays a role but harsh climate is also a reason.

With some exceptions, the best roads in the US are in the warmer parts of the country, like the Southwest.

Right now, the roads here are pothole ridden.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 04:14 AM   #6631
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Is there any specific reason (like it carrying a heavy load) for that truck you see at around 3:55 to have 24 wheels?
It's a Michigan train, bro:









Now, that's a man's truck (or as the English say, "lorry").

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I have heard that Michigan truck weight laws are the most liberal in the nation. Is this true?

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Michigan permits trucks up to 164,000 pounds on the system. However, different than other states, Michigan requires a lower weight per axle which more evenly distributes the load and reduces wear and tear on roads. MDOT engineers have thoroughly studied this issue and the result of this research is that heavier trucks do not cause a disproportionate amount of damage as long as the weight is evenly distributed over an appropriate number of axles. Additionally, trucks over 80,000 pounds make up only less than 5% of all trucks operating on our roads. If Michigan were to reduce it's truck weight laws to 80,000 pounds, more damage to the system may occur because of the need to put more trucks on the road. More trucks on the road raise serious questions concerning safety and traffic congestion. Several other states are currently looking at Michigan's axle weight laws and are considering adopting similar laws.
Not sure I'd buy all of that that. The road surfaces here are pretty shit. Big trucks, freeze-thaw winters, greedy trade unions, and a broke state government can't be a good combination though.

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I-696 in Detroit IMO the best drive in the metro when traffic is flowing.

My exit is at 3:20.

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Old April 2nd, 2011, 04:35 AM   #6632
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Those make 18 wheelers look like SMART Cars in comparison.
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Old April 2nd, 2011, 06:19 AM   #6633
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Ya gotta be especially watchful of those oversized rigs in Da YuPee - they are maniacal on those two-laners away from the Wisconsin state line!



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Old April 4th, 2011, 03:58 AM   #6634
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For some reason I love seeing Interstate highways multiplexed with U.S. Highways. An Interstate seems naked without the U.S. on or hanging nearby...
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Old April 4th, 2011, 04:27 AM   #6635
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Old April 6th, 2011, 12:47 AM   #6636
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The portion of I-69 that will connect Bloomington and Indianapolis absolutely has enough traffic on the existing road to warrant an upgrade to a limited access freeway. The portion from Bloomington to Evansville is an unknown since people can take a number of different routes between those cities. There are quite a few students from Evansville that attend Indiana University in Bloomington.

And since this road is being built with state funds, it should not be of any concern to a resident of another state. My concern with all of these southern roads is they are being financed with federal funds from wealthy donor states that have plenty of their own highway needs.
Politically, it's a lot easier to build new freeways in the South than it is in the North.

It doesn't matter so much that the parts of Arkansas, Louisiana and Texas before Houston that I-69 will go through are sparsely populated; that's not the point of the highway, anyway. The highway connects the most important cargo centers in the center of the country, and this is why it is being built.

Rio Grande Valley - largest port of entry from Mexico

Houston - busiest port by foreign tonnage in the United States, second busiest port in total tonnage, and the fifteenth largest port on the planet

Memphis - Memphis International Airport is the largest cargo airport in the world, a large port on the Mississippi River

Evansville - significant regional distribution center, home to many corporate headquarters, including Atlas Van Lines

It wasn't called the NAFTA Superhighway for nothing. The only other highway that was so focused on economic benefits was the I-70 extension west from Denver, or some of the BS spurs that mainly serve as an offramp to some corporate center (I'm looking at you, I-180 Wyoming and Illinois)
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Old April 6th, 2011, 01:51 AM   #6637
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When looking a map of this location I also noticed that I-70 takes an odd route. Even for people taking I-35 north or I-29, the connection is still better from I-670. I'm not sure about demolishing the road since it's already there, but at least switch the naming so I-70 flows better.
(KC's Downtown loop)
I-70 would only have 1 through lane with either route. I-35 also gets down to 1 through lane at the northern corners of the loop. The whole downtown loop needs rebuilt badly since there are dozens of dangerous ramps where lanes enter and exit within a few car lengths and they need to make it so the interstates have 2-3 through lanes.
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Old April 6th, 2011, 10:36 AM   #6638
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This is part of a 1.7 billion dollar freeway project in Utah County (part of the Salt Lake City metro area). The project is a design-build rebuild of an entire 24 mile section of I-15. Most of the road will have 5-6 concrete lanes going each way and completely new bridges.

http://www.i15core.utah.gov/InteractiveMap/
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UDOT makes history with American Fork bridge move

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...idge-move.html

AMERICAN FORK — The so-called Super Bowl of bridge moving took place Saturday night without commercial interruption but plenty of fanfare.

More than 1,100 people watched as self-propelled modular transporters put in place the 354-foot, 3.8 million-pound Sam White Bridge — the longest two-span bridge ever moved in the Western Hemisphere...



Crews prepare the transport equipment as UDOT will closes I-15 in both directions at American Fork to allow for the move of the giant Sam White Bridge. This is considered to be the largest bridge built to date in the western hemisphere using the now famous Self Propelled Modular Transporter System. Sunday, March 27, 2011. Mike Terry, Deseret News (Mike Terry, Deseret News)

..."We've kind of made the connection with the Super Bowl experience," Bryce Jaynes, the accelerated bridge construction project engineer for UDOT, said prior to the move. "We're basically moving a Super Bowl field up there, and we're moving it in a matter of hours."...


Mike Terry, Deseret News


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Old April 7th, 2011, 07:56 AM   #6639
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I-70 would only have 1 through lane with either route. I-35 also gets down to 1 through lane at the northern corners of the loop. The whole downtown loop needs rebuilt badly since there are dozens of dangerous ramps where lanes enter and exit within a few car lengths and they need to make it so the interstates have 2-3 through lanes.
Yea it does need redone. I almost smashed up some old caddie who didnt get into the 1 lane of I-35 Northbound if I had not completely stopped. I-70 which I have now driven in rush hour is not packed with traffic. I just want it gone.
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Old April 7th, 2011, 08:20 AM   #6640
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Politically, it's a lot easier to build new freeways in the South than it is in the North.

It doesn't matter so much that the parts of Arkansas, Louisiana and Texas before Houston that I-69 will go through are sparsely populated; that's not the point of the highway, anyway. The highway connects the most important cargo centers in the center of the country, and this is why it is being built.

Rio Grande Valley - largest port of entry from Mexico

Houston - busiest port by foreign tonnage in the United States, second busiest port in total tonnage, and the fifteenth largest port on the planet

Memphis - Memphis International Airport is the largest cargo airport in the world, a large port on the Mississippi River

Evansville - significant regional distribution center, home to many corporate headquarters, including Atlas Van Lines

It wasn't called the NAFTA Superhighway for nothing. The only other highway that was so focused on economic benefits was the I-70 extension west from Denver, or some of the BS spurs that mainly serve as an offramp to some corporate center (I'm looking at you, I-180 Wyoming and Illinois)
Not to mention that I-69 was designed to take some of the load off of I-35 which is extremely congested from San Antonio to Dallas because of the large amount of truck traffic.
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