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Old April 17th, 2011, 07:25 PM   #6701
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You misunderstand me. The others seemed to be counting it as impolite. As I say, I may be half asleep.
(For the record, I'll flash if you're crawling in the passing lane, although I don't know how many Americans understand that.)
I don't bother flashing they just stay on bright until it annoys the slow person and they move out of the lane or a lane opens up so I can pass.
I don't EVER tailgate
1) it's dangerous
2) the closer you are the less your high beams are seen

People who drive slow should really consider the side streets if they are afraid of speed or others speeding around them.

If I'm in no hurry and just want to take my time and relax I skip the interstate and hit the US routes or state routes.

As for city driving, it doesn't matter who is traveling under or over the speed in which lane. It's impossible to gain any advantage in time by speeding or flashing lights ETC (in my personal opinion)
So I go with the flow and don't stress about it.

I'd be all for unlimited speed limits once an Interstate reaches the rural areas and all for posted speed limits in suburban/urban interstates.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 08:51 PM   #6702
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Really? Iceland is 3.9 fatalities per billion km, Ireland and the UK are 5.7 (a low value for non-little countries), Germany is 7.2, France and the Netherlands are 7.7 and the USA is 8.5.

Pakistan is 25.3 road fatalities per 100k people (compare France's 6.9 being a higher rate in Western Europe, USA's 12.3 for a high rate for the West, and the UK's 3.59 for a lower rate), which unless the average Pakistani drives about twice as far as the average American, 3 2/3 times more than the average French person, or 7 times more than the average Brit, then - per distance traveled - Pakistan has more deaths on the road.

So while you can tell us with conviction, you can't say it with any justification as it's very unlikely that it is the case that Pakistan is even in the same ball park as the USA, let alone Western European countries. The suggestion that you made of Pakistan having a 'way lower' fatality rate than any country in the West is swill not worthy to feed a pig with.
Relax. I'm not in Pakistan right now, but I know where I got my figure from and I'll try and post it if I can get my hands on that book somehow. No need to get all upset.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 09:46 PM   #6703
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How do honking and flashing the headlights make the roads dangerous?
If you flash once or twice it's not a big deal. But initially you wrote about honking, flashing and tailgating. Such combination can be dangerous and is illegal in most countries. You can cause accident by forcing driver ahead of you to make an error.

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One thing: isn't flashing lights to get people out of your way (if they're in the left lane) common and accepted practice in Germany?
People do it if you keep hogging left lane for long but I think it is illegal, especially when connected with tailgating. I guess if German police witness such situation they would penalize both drivers. Slow one for hogging left lane, and fast one for tailgating and flashing. Honking is big "no no" in Germany. It can be only used in emergency situation. Same in Poland and I think most European countries.

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If not, ignore this post, but if it is, I think that contradicts the politeness-correlates-to-fewer-fatalities hypothesis. At least if we count flashing lights as impoliteness. (Underline "think." I just woke up from a nice nap and my brain may still be half asleep. :-) )
Some young Germans in expensive cars flash lights more often. As well as for example Poles who lived in Germany for a while, bought nice car and who think they are kings of the road
They are definitely not polite. They are also the most dangerous drivers on German roads.

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Why would flashing lights be considered impolite? Even if it is, it's less impolite than hogging the lane while talking to your BFF on the phone!
All behaviors you mentioned are equally impolite. Stop justifying reckless driving. Encountering idiot hogging left lane don't give you right to behave like an idiot yourself.

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Relax. I'm not in Pakistan right now, but I know where I got my figure from and I'll try and post it if I can get my hands on that book somehow. No need to get all upset.
I would like to see where you got your ridiculous numbers from.
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If everyone drives like a maniac and breaks the law, the roads actually become SAFER. You really won't undersatnd that until you actually drive for a long time in such conditions.But the reason is simple, you're always looking out for anything that could go wrong. Here's an example - try driving in the wrong direction on a highway in the US, it'll result in a big pile-up. In Pakistan it won't, coz we EXPECT that.

Please tell me you are kidding, or you smoke something really good. It's the weirdest statement I've seen on this forum so far. And believe me, I've seen a lot of crap here.
Thinking that way why not abandoning all road rules? People would move slowly and be careful to avoid others driving wrong way or driving on red. Actually there wouldn't be red light anymore.
What a brilliant idea. I can already see Nobel Peace Prize going your way.
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Old April 17th, 2011, 11:18 PM   #6704
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I don't want to derail this thread, so if you wanna carry on this discussion make a new thread and I'll gladly reply there.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 04:03 AM   #6705
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Hogging the left lane when there is no traffic to you right is not being polite.
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Old April 18th, 2011, 08:39 AM   #6706
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Does anyone flash their high beams to warn oncoming vehicles that there are police close to that place? Usually people flash their high beams twice. I have seen that a lot in Bulgaria on two-way roads because technically you can't do it on highways. I have never seen that in USA
I do it sometimes especially for the pure speed traps you see around town. Other than that I'll leave others to their fate on the highway.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 05:26 AM   #6707
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My kind of cop.

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Old April 20th, 2011, 09:23 AM   #6708
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LOVE IT!

That cop deserves a medal.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 11:12 AM   #6709
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Hogging the left lane when there is no traffic to you right is not being polite.
Amen! :-) But seriously... it is just unsafe inefficient driving, and causes those unnecessary traffic bunches.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 11:14 AM   #6710
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My kind of cop.

The fact that the kids filming this couldn't understand why the cop did what he/she did shows that the average American driver knows very little about staying right except to pass.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 12:34 PM   #6711
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Old April 20th, 2011, 03:31 PM   #6712
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My kind of cop.

That's call "idiotic stupid."

He shouldn't have turned his siren lights on when he was only 2 feet behind the car in front of him. The person in the front could have scared and slammed on the break, and the police could have rear-ended the other car at high speed. At that point the police is at fault not the slow car. Even if he was trying to be a jerk, give himself some room of safety.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 05:13 PM   #6713
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Yes, calculated by miles traveled, American Interstate Highways have approximately 40% more fatalities than German Autobahns.
Having driven on both, it does not surprise me the least. German (and, for that matter, British, Dutch, Swedish etc...) motorway drivers seem to focus mainly on the job at hand, i.e. driving on a busy, high-speed road. US freeway drivers do not have the same focus.
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Old April 20th, 2011, 07:55 PM   #6714
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My kind of cop.

My favorite cop! But most Americans wouldn't understand why he did that
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Old April 20th, 2011, 09:37 PM   #6715
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My favorite cop! But most Americans wouldn't understand why he did that
Yes they would , don't make assumptions that the Majority of Americans don't know have to drive because of a few.
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Considering the excessive left-lane hogging I see in all highway videos on Youtube, it's not just "a few".
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Old April 20th, 2011, 10:18 PM   #6717
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Considering the excessive left-lane hogging I see in all highway videos on Youtube, it's not just "a few".
Well, Nexis comes from a state where "Keep Right Except to Pass" is the law. Not that I've ever heard of it being enforced....
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Old April 20th, 2011, 10:39 PM   #6718
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Well, Nexis comes from a state where "Keep Right Except to Pass" is the law. Not that I've ever heard of it being enforced....
haha i have.... one of my teachers got ticketed for that lolz....=p
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Old April 20th, 2011, 10:55 PM   #6719
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Yes they would , don't make assumptions that the Majority of Americans don't know have to drive because of a few.
I disagree... it may vary somewhat state by state, but my gut tells me at least 50 + 1 (which is a majority) of American drivers don't know about the keep right except to pass concept.
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Old April 21st, 2011, 12:43 AM   #6720
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I deliberately ignore the "keep right except to pass" rule when driving on an Interstate at night. Headlights in my mirror is not something I'm fond of, so I drive on the left at night on the Interstate to keep my left side mirror clear, and I always keep the interior mirror flipped up to the darker setting.
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