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Old April 26th, 2011, 04:52 PM   #6761
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Construction on a new Inner Belt Bridge(I-90) has started.


Inner Belt Bridge construction begins as massive supports are hammered into bedrock

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- A new, pounding rhythm echoes in the Cuyahoga River valley. And it won't stop till fall.
It's the sound of a bridge being built.

A heavy-duty crane began hammering steel I-beams down to bedrock Wednesday, to anchor the first support, or pier, to go up for the new Inner Belt Bridge.

Eventually, crews will drive 10 miles of welded beams into the ground. The pilings are part of the base for the 13, two-legged piers that will support the bridge across the river valley.

"It will be like elevator music, in the background," Ohio Department of Transportation spokeswoman Jocelynn Clemings said of the months-long hammering.



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Old April 26th, 2011, 05:05 PM   #6762
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Where is this relative to the current bridge? Is it replacing it in the same location, is it in a slightly different location...? If I were in Cleveland tomorrow (just hypothetically), would I find I-90 closed?

I have been to Cleveland once, on a sunny last weekend in June. Drove I-90 from the western suburbs to where I was staying in Mentor just before sunset, when everything facing west is just bathed in light. Pretty impressive city, highway-wise.
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Old April 26th, 2011, 05:31 PM   #6763
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Where is this relative to the current bridge? Is it replacing it in the same location, is it in a slightly different location...? If I were in Cleveland tomorrow (just hypothetically), would I find I-90 closed?

I have been to Cleveland once, on a sunny last weekend in June. Drove I-90 from the western suburbs to where I was staying in Mentor just before sunset, when everything facing west is just bathed in light. Pretty impressive city, highway-wise.
This new bridge will be for WB traffic once everything is finished, the current bridge will be torn down a new built in its place for EB traffic. So I-90 will be open for the entire project.
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Old April 26th, 2011, 07:58 PM   #6764
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Old April 27th, 2011, 07:40 PM   #6765
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Dallas High Five

Much has been said. Many photographs and videos have been taken of this interchange. But this is THE ultimate Dallas High Five video!

I recommend to watch it at full HD and full-screen!

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Old April 27th, 2011, 08:39 PM   #6766
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US 53 & I-94 Interchange in Eau Claire, WI



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Old April 27th, 2011, 11:43 PM   #6767
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Beautiful drive through the mountains of Virginia




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Old April 28th, 2011, 02:08 AM   #6768
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Beautifiul drive through mountain of Virginia
You did it wrong. You must drive the entire length of US-50 west from I-66 to I-81. That takes you through the town of Middleburg. That town is awesome. The next town is a tourist trap though.

As for the green poles, I think they're there to prevent glare from vehicles' headlights. The two sections of road must be close together as the highway is going through a narrow valley there, so driving at night would be unnecessarily difficult at highway speeds when you have to deal with approaching headlights.
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Old April 28th, 2011, 04:06 PM   #6769
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Someone shortened this threat rather indiscriminately....

But, Nerdly Dood, as I said yesterday evening (between stupid remarks, an interesting discussion, and bitching about how - gasp - we were off-topic, which I think is debatable) I did that 66/US 50 sequence one weekend last October. Went to the State Department book sale then out to Winchester for the night; the next day - a bright, sunny Sunday - I did a glorious drive up to State College, Pa., mostly using US 522, noting a transition in leaf color from green in Winchester to peak foliage in Pennsylvania.

Before anyone deletes this, I'll point out that 66, mentioned above, is an Interstate, 522 puts you onto I-70 briefly, and I got home from State College using I-99 and the Pennsylvania Turnpike (I-76).

Perhaps we need a third U.S. thread, for U.S. Interstates, U.S. roads that aren't Interstates, and U.S. topics that aren't directly about roads but are about driving, and which no one would have a problem with if we were on one of the other country threads.
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Old May 1st, 2011, 04:32 AM   #6770
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I-85 Northbound in Atlanta, GA. Friday evening, about 8:30pm, 4-29-11. I took this because I love the digital billboards against the beautiful green trees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvhL4nVErEQ

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Old May 1st, 2011, 02:59 PM   #6771
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I-85 Northbound in Atlanta, GA. Friday evening, about 8:30pm, 4-29-11. I took this because I love the digital billboards against the beautiful green trees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvhL4nVErEQ

Another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mud-onUaQvk
I was driving 85 southbound one morning just south of 285, and... there was a billboard with an almost-lifesize cutout of a bomb-laden F-16 and exhortation for Christians to defend Israel. Immediately in front of it was an electronic billboard advertizing good deals on the Hadj.
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Old May 3rd, 2011, 12:55 AM   #6772
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So I haven't been participating in the discussion much late...but I'm back! Couple things I've learned recently for Washington State:

- Active Traffic Management is now up for SR 520 and I-5, and I-90 will be up soon in a few weeks (completing 40-day testing right now). All speed limits and lane control signs (merge arrows, red x for lane closures) are mandatory. I believe this system is the second in the U.S., and the first to establish mandatory speed limits and lane usage directions.

Seems like people don't really understand the purpose of it yet, but when accidents occur, most people seem to merge out of the lane before the blocking accident, which has improved traffic flow.

- Tolling on SR 520 will begin in July, and if enough people divert to I-90 to avoid the tolls, chances are I-90 will be tolled as well. Gas tax revenue is diminishing rapidly so WSDOT is looking at tolling as the next alternative. Rumor has it that tolling in the future will become mile-based, so a deduction will occur every mile of road (electronically obviously).

- Quieter pavement (open-grade porous pavement) testing is showing poor results. Test sections that were put in four years ago have rutted and are failing.

- WSDOT has been discussing issues of retroflectivity of pavement markings, especially yellow markings. They are not holding up well. I don't have details of what they might be doing next. I also asked and they are not planning on using white markings on both edge lines for dual carriageways (although that is done for reversible express lanes).

That's it so far, cheers!
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Old May 3rd, 2011, 01:07 AM   #6773
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So I haven't been participating in the discussion much late...but I'm back! Couple things I've learned recently for Washington State:

- Active Traffic Management is now up for SR 520 and I-5, and I-90 will be up soon in a few weeks (completing 40-day testing right now). All speed limits and lane control signs (merge arrows, red x for lane closures) are mandatory. I believe this system is the second in the U.S., and the first to establish mandatory speed limits and lane usage directions.

Seems like people don't really understand the purpose of it yet, but when accidents occur, most people seem to merge out of the lane before the blocking accident, which has improved traffic flow.


- Tolling on SR 520 will begin in July, and if enough people divert to I-90 to avoid the tolls, chances are I-90 will be tolled as well. Gas tax revenue is diminishing rapidly so WSDOT is looking at tolling as the next alternative. Rumor has it that tolling in the future will become mile-based, so a deduction will occur every mile of road (electronically obviously).

- Quieter pavement (open-grade porous pavement) testing is showing poor results. Test sections that were put in four years ago have rutted and are failing.

- WSDOT has been discussing issues of retroflectivity of pavement markings, especially yellow markings. They are not holding up well. I don't have details of what they might be doing next. I also asked and they are not planning on using white markings on both edge lines for dual carriageways (although that is done for reversible express lanes).

That's it so far, cheers!
This should be the standard for Urban / Suburban Freeways all across the US.
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Old May 3rd, 2011, 01:46 AM   #6774
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This should be the standard for Urban / Suburban Freeways all across the US.
I agree for the most part, except tolling. I much rather prefer a gas tax. Tolling requires that the DOTs spend money to implement tolling infrastructure before collection can actually begin. A gas tax also provides people with incentives to purchase more efficient vehicles.

But ATM is a must. Although the amount of add-lanes and exit-only lanes make things more difficult than they need to be.
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Old May 3rd, 2011, 10:28 AM   #6775
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Will they ever repave the worst sections of I-5 between downtown Seattle and the border with Snohomish County (Shoreline exit 177)? That section is so bad. The concrete is probably 50 years old and not smooth at all. Also the markings (the dots on the road) on Hwy 99 in Snohomish County between 188 St SW and 244 St SW are almost non-existant. That has been like that for more than 2 years. I can't understand why they regularly repaint and repave small streets and they don't even touch the main roads/highways?

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Will they ever repave the worst sections of I-5 between downtown Seattle and the border with Snohomish County (Shoreline exit 177)? That section is so bad. The concrete is probably 50 years old and not smooth at all. Also the markings (the dots on the road) on Hwy 99 in Snohomish County between 188 St SW and 244 St SW are almost non-existant. That has been like that for more than 2 years. I can't understand why they regularly repaint and repave small streets and they don't even touch the main roads/highways?
That section recently underwent concrete rehabilitation. WSDOT installed dowel bars between concrete panels, replaced the most heavily cracked panels, and then diamond-ground off the top 1/4 inch of the entire stretch of roadway to improve the road surface. It feels nice driving on it, but it's far from pleasing to the eye.

But of course, that's just a temporary fix. Actual reconstruction of the highway won't happen until 2017.
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do you know when they reconstruct that part of I-5 will they replace it with new concrete or asphalt.
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I agree for the most part, except tolling. I much rather prefer a gas tax. Tolling requires that the DOTs spend money to implement tolling infrastructure before collection can actually begin. A gas tax also provides people with incentives to purchase more efficient vehicles.

But ATM is a must. Although the amount of add-lanes and exit-only lanes make things more difficult than they need to be.
Isn't adding tolls to a currently-free Interstate (I'm referring to your mention of I-90 farther up the thread) built with federal funds illegal? The Rendell administration tried at least twice to get permission from the feds (no idea what agency) to add tolls to Pennsylvania's stretch of I-80, and was shot down.
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Isn't adding tolls to a currently-free Interstate (I'm referring to your mention of I-90 farther up the thread) built with federal funds illegal? The Rendell administration tried at least twice to get permission from the feds (no idea what agency) to add tolls to Pennsylvania's stretch of I-80, and was shot down.
As far as I know, funding sources for highways have becomes so drained that the federal government is actually starting to promote tolls. No one wants to the raise the gas tax. It hasn't exactly been publicized yet, but state and federal lawmakers are both considering it now.

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do you know when they reconstruct that part of I-5 will they replace it with new concrete or asphalt.
Most likely concrete. From plans that I've read from WSDOT's website, they will be replacing the current 9-inch PCC pavement with 12-inch PCC pavement.

They also recently rehabilitated I-90 PCC pavement as well in Mercer Island. That's being done at a much earlier point in the pavement's lifetime than I-5 and will probably increase the life of the pavement dramatically.
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Actually you are right. The section between Tukwila and Northgate is very smooth now, but they haven't touched the section between Northgate and Shoreline (exit 177) and it's still very bumpy and noisy

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