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Old May 16th, 2011, 04:04 AM   #6861
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Oh, wow, the Yadkin River Bridge on I-85! It's finally being replaced: http://www.ncdot.org/projects/i85corridor/ . For years NCDOT couldn't find the money.

This section of I-85 has long fascinated me. The segment that includes the bridge is really old-- and the section north of there, also being reconstructed, is apparently even older, maybe pre-Interstate. As this project map and Google Maps show, it appears that the segment with the bridge was scabbed onto the previously-built 2x2 US 29/70 in a TOTSO arrangement. What's especially odd about this is that the 2x2 highway was likely built in the '40's, but replaced in the '50's, which seems rather extravagant for the time.

EDIT: The existing bridge was built in 1955-- it is pre-Interstate!

North of the project area, the 2x2 old road, now Green 85, continues as a freeway for only a few miles before becoming a low-grade expressway with a few interchanges, numerous grade crossings, and little if any limitation on driveway access. I've often wondered whether the freeway section was built like that or if perhaps the freeway features were added later, when the Yadkin River Bridge segment was built.

Note also that the reconstructed road will have a narrow, grassed median with a double-faced Type a barrier like the recently-rebuilt section to the south. I wonder why they didn't use a concrete barrier with a glare screen.

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Old May 16th, 2011, 06:17 AM   #6862
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This is probably something you will never see anywhere else (except for maybe the Lake Ponchartrain Causeway and the Chesapeake Bridge and Tunnel). I-10 along with US 90 and I-55 in Louisiana has several bridges that are more than 15 miles long.


The Atchafalaya Swamp Freeway (I-10 between Lafayette and Baton Rouge).
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Old May 16th, 2011, 06:01 PM   #6863
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Oh, wow, the Yadkin River Bridge on I-85! It's finally being replaced: http://www.ncdot.org/projects/i85corridor/ . For years NCDOT couldn't find the money.

This section of I-85 has long fascinated me. The segment that includes the bridge is really old-- and the section north of there, also being reconstructed, is apparently even older, maybe pre-Interstate. As this project map and Google Maps show, it appears that the segment with the bridge was scabbed onto the previously-built 2x2 US 29/70 in a TOTSO arrangement. What's especially odd about this is that the 2x2 highway was likely built in the '40's, but replaced in the '50's, which seems rather extravagant for the time.

EDIT: The existing bridge was built in 1955-- it is pre-Interstate!

North of the project area, the 2x2 old road, now Green 85, continues as a freeway for only a few miles before becoming a low-grade expressway with a few interchanges, numerous grade crossings, and little if any limitation on driveway access. I've often wondered whether the freeway section was built like that or if perhaps the freeway features were added later, when the Yadkin River Bridge segment was built.

Note also that the reconstructed road will have a narrow, grassed median with a double-faced Type a barrier like the recently-rebuilt section to the south. I wonder why they didn't use a concrete barrier with a glare screen.
Yeah, I hate that Yadkin River bridge. I was happy to see that they were replacing it.

Also, I never understood North Carolina's still-current fascination with green Interstates. Especially now that most of them are co-signed with US routes (or, in the case of Greensboro, blue Interstates).
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Old May 16th, 2011, 06:13 PM   #6864
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You mean Business Routes?
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Old May 16th, 2011, 06:23 PM   #6865
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Yeah, exactly. I saw "Green 85" as a nickname a few years ago and decided to run with it.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 07:37 PM   #6866
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Yeah, I hate that Yadkin River bridge. I was happy to see that they were replacing it.

Also, I never understood North Carolina's still-current fascination with green Interstates. Especially now that most of them are co-signed with US routes (or, in the case of Greensboro, blue Interstates).
What is a blue Interstate?!

Also, business Interstates are, for some reason, far rarer in the Northeast than they are in the rest of the country. I know of only one in Pennsylvania (business 83 through York) and can't think of any others from Maryland north through New England.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 10:13 PM   #6867
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Oh, wow, the Yadkin River Bridge on I-85! It's finally being replaced: http://www.ncdot.org/projects/i85corridor/ . For years NCDOT couldn't find the money.

This section of I-85 has long fascinated me. The segment that includes the bridge is really old-- and the section north of there, also being reconstructed, is apparently even older, maybe pre-Interstate. As this project map and Google Maps show, it appears that the segment with the bridge was scabbed onto the previously-built 2x2 US 29/70 in a TOTSO arrangement. What's especially odd about this is that the 2x2 highway was likely built in the '40's, but replaced in the '50's, which seems rather extravagant for the time.

EDIT: The existing bridge was built in 1955-- it is pre-Interstate!

North of the project area, the 2x2 old road, now Green 85, continues as a freeway for only a few miles before becoming a low-grade expressway with a few interchanges, numerous grade crossings, and little if any limitation on driveway access. I've often wondered whether the freeway section was built like that or if perhaps the freeway features were added later, when the Yadkin River Bridge segment was built.

Note also that the reconstructed road will have a narrow, grassed median with a double-faced Type a barrier like the recently-rebuilt section to the south. I wonder why they didn't use a concrete barrier with a glare screen.
Here is the news story I saw earlier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOl1k...layer_embedded

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Old May 16th, 2011, 11:29 PM   #6868
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Old May 17th, 2011, 04:50 AM   #6869
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Old May 17th, 2011, 09:57 PM   #6870
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I was staying in Vancouver Canada for a year and drove right down to Vegas. Took this Video in HD on my way back up. Was really impressed with the highway around Seattle.



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Old May 22nd, 2011, 06:40 AM   #6871
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Highway Sell-Off: PA plan would let tolls on 95, Blue Route, 422

The campaign to turn America's highways back to private ownership - with electronic tollbooths that will silently tap your bank account as you drive - is accelerating here in the Northeast.

"New York and Connecticut are rolling along with bills and hearings," Frank Rapoport, partner at McKenna Long & Aldridge, one of the law firms pushing hardest for "public-private partnership" sales of state assets to private interests, tells me. "In Pennsylvania, look for a House (of Representatives) bill to hit the Capitol floor on June 6 and move on to passage."

Previous proposals, including House bills sponsored by the current Transportation Committee head, Rep. Richard Geist, R-Altoona, have failed three times. "The bill was reported out of our committee 21-3 March 3" but has since been hung up over prevailing-wage issues, House legislative analyst Greg Grasa told me. Federal contracting rules typically require union-scale wages; but Republicans want them out in case federal law changes, while Democrats want them in for the same reason. Still, Grasa calls the working bill "a solid, flexible broad-based piece of legislation" that's already been vetted by state transportation officials. "We're very optimistic."

What about New Jersey, where ex-Gov. Jon Corzine's efforts to sell the Turnpike and the Atlantic City Expressway came to grief a few years back?

Gov. Christie's "folks want a bit of education on P3s first," Rapoport told me. To help that effort along, would-be private operators will gather at an event billed as "Meet the Players" at the Trenton Marriott on June 7, including top executives from Veolia Energy, the Union Labor Life Insurance Co., AECOM, Skanska USA, Mott McDonald, Halcrow Inc., along with consultants like Rapoport and Richard Mroz.

Rapoport and his colleauges are handing around lists of key government contacts and motivated contractors, along with lists of the roads most likely to get sold around New York, Pittsburgh and other cities. Their favorite projects targeted for sales and tolls in the Philadelphia area include:

US 422 (from King of Prussia west toward Reading)
I-95 (at the Delaware River and in Philadelphia)
I-476 (Blue Route through Delaware and Montgomery Counties)


Geist's bill won't automatically privatize those roads. It sets up a seven-member committee to review proposals. The Governor and his Transportation and Budget secretaries, House and Senate Democrats and Republicans each name a member. In the House bill each member has to be a construction engiener, lawyer or other expert, not a politician or staffer. But a Senate version (S-344) sponsored by Transportation Committee boss John Rafferty, who represents Pottstown and Coatesville, would allow politicos.
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This Video follows the 413 Bus route from Downtown Seattle to the Northern Suburbs..along I-5...

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Idk how this would work , and that would mean we wouldn't have anyway to pay for our Road and Rail Expansions if private were to run these tolls....
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I was stuck stopped right under the lowest part of that interchange on anti-clockwise bound I-285 for over an hour due to a traffic accident ahead of me during my 2004 roadtrip. Lots of time to get out, stretch, socialize with the neighbors, listen to tunes on the iPod, etc.



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Old May 24th, 2011, 11:49 PM   #6876
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Old May 25th, 2011, 03:26 AM   #6878
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It doesn't help that the more conservative-leaning northeastern counties are getting raked for this; most of the money generated by these tolls is going to...the Baltimore and DC areas. Guess that's what we get for not voting for O'Malley.

Want to drive from Baltimore to Wilmington? Have fun, already there's three tolls.
Baltimore and the DC suburbs are the wealthiest, most important, and congested parts of the state. Thus, the bulk of transportation funds should go there.

If someone doesn't want to pay tolls to drive from Baltimore to Wilmington, they can take U.S. 40.
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Baltimore and the DC suburbs are the wealthiest, most important, and congested parts of the state. Thus, the bulk of transportation funds should go there.

If someone doesn't want to pay tolls to drive from Baltimore to Wilmington, they can take U.S. 40.
You still have to pay a (IIRC) $5 toll to cross the Susquehanna River on US 40.

The farthest downstream *FREE* crossing of that river is US 1 (it crosses the top of Conowingo Dam), located about 15-20 minutes inland from I-95.

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Can the state sell a road the Feds paid for 90 percent of?
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