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Old August 6th, 2011, 05:37 PM   #7201
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Well, it's a fact the U.S. freeway fatality rate is far higher than in most of Europe, despite the speed limits being significantly lower. In 2003, 5.2 people were killed per 1 billion motorway (freeway) vehicle kilometers. For instance, this was 3.8 in Germany, 4.0 in France, 2.1 in the Netherlands and 2.0 in the United Kingdom.

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Notice the number for Spain, but it is explained because then we had few km of motorways/freeways, now we have a lot more. (I'm wondering if they have included autovías on that number...)

Back on topic, I'm very surprised to see a urban freeway empty. I bet the 405 in LA area is never empty.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 05:44 PM   #7202
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Notice the number for Spain, but it is explained because then we had few km of motorways/freeways, now we have a lot more. (I'm wondering if they have included autovías on that number...)
I think that is a mistake, it's way too far off to be a statistical outlier. I think they included only the vehicle miles on autopistas, but included all fatalities on autopistas + autovías. Even though Spain has improved its traffic safety since 2003, it surely wasn't THAT bad. (15 times the German rate)

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Yes, but you only hear about spectacular 50- and 60- vehicle pileups in Europe. 'Cause they're all tailgating while they drive too fast. (I'm being facetious.)
Of course you hear only about the multi-vehicle pileups. How often do you think a single-vehicle accident in Europe makes the news in the U.S.? This only happened in 1997 I think.
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Old August 6th, 2011, 05:48 PM   #7203
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Was that a single-vehicle accident, or Mercedes and scooter?

Now what was it that happened to Queen Beatrix a couple of years ago? Was that an attempted assassination? I don't remember.

(I meant, that sort of thing doesn't seem to happen as much here. Like riots at soccer games. (Still being facetious! ;-) ))
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Old August 7th, 2011, 04:07 AM   #7204
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Old August 7th, 2011, 04:39 AM   #7205
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I love Interstate 10 between Houston and San Antonio. Just wish they would raise the speed limit to 80.
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Old August 7th, 2011, 06:51 AM   #7206
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Meadow Lake Wind Farm on I-65 in northwest Indiana. Nice place to drive through.

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Old August 7th, 2011, 11:34 AM   #7207
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Back on topic, I'm very surprised to see a urban freeway empty. I bet the 405 in LA area is never empty.
Well it was during Carmagedon.
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Old August 7th, 2011, 11:38 PM   #7208
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Well, it's a fact the U.S. freeway fatality rate is far higher than in most of Europe, despite the speed limits being significantly lower. In 2003, 5.2 people were killed per 1 billion motorway (freeway) vehicle kilometers. For instance, this was 3.8 in Germany, 4.0 in France, 2.1 in the Netherlands and 2.0 in the United Kingdom.

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It's wrong to make comparisons like that. It assumes that fatalities should be a function of kilometers traveled. Just top of my head I can think of "average distance traveled per trip" as just one other variable that would affect it (it might not, but it's plausible).
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Old August 7th, 2011, 11:43 PM   #7209
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I think that is a mistake, it's way too far off to be a statistical outlier. I think they included only the vehicle miles on autopistas, but included all fatalities on autopistas + autovías. Even though Spain has improved its traffic safety since 2003, it surely wasn't THAT bad. (15 times the German rate)
It IS a mistake, they just dropped the decimal point. Look at this other page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate
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Old August 8th, 2011, 02:20 AM   #7210
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Was that a single-vehicle accident, or Mercedes and scooter?

Now what was it that happened to Queen Beatrix a couple of years ago? Was that an attempted assassination? I don't remember.

(I meant, that sort of thing doesn't seem to happen as much here. Like riots at soccer games. (Still being facetious! ;-) ))
Does foreign stuff like that reach the news in the US?!

P.S That pileup in Madison made the news here a couple of years ago, but the recent one in Portugal did not reach the news in the UK
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Old August 8th, 2011, 05:38 AM   #7211
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Meadow Lake Wind Farm on I-65 in northwest Indiana. Nice place to drive through.
I remember driving through there, looks so cool at sunset. Excuse the quality, taking a picture with a DSLR going 75mph isn't easy lol.

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Old August 8th, 2011, 05:39 AM   #7212
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(This is pointing to Daniel, not I-275)
Depends what it is. (The riots outside Paris in, what, 2005 got lots of coverage. So, of course, do your long-suffering head of state and her interesting relatives). But I read French and Belgian sites.
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Old August 8th, 2011, 04:58 PM   #7213
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I remember driving through there, looks so cool at sunset. Excuse the quality, taking a picture with a DSLR going 75mph isn't easy lol.

Did they just install those windmills along I-65? I remember driving on that Interstate three/four years ago and I don't remember them being there?
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Old August 9th, 2011, 04:19 AM   #7214
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My pic is from Aug 12, 2010 so its possible.
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Old August 9th, 2011, 04:52 AM   #7215
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Okay, that explains it, thanks.

Anyways here is a cool shot of I-35W in Minneapolis with the skyline in the background.

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Old August 9th, 2011, 04:56 AM   #7216
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You guys misunderstood me. Yes, obviously under normal circumstances you only drive in the right lane of a 4 lane divided highway unless overtaking a slower vehicle. Those are basic road rules. Anticipating that there will be more slow traffic in the right lane ahead and getting over the left earlier so merging vehicles can get on to me is perfectly in accordance with the intent of the law here. Also, the speed limit still mostly applies to overtaking so if someone is lawfully occupying the left lane for passing purposes and you come up on them, they aren't being a hog you are speeding.

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Old August 9th, 2011, 08:41 AM   #7217
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Anyways here is a cool shot of I-35W in Minneapolis with the skyline in the background.
That is great shot, almost all freeways that approach downtown Minnie (execpt eastbound I-94) offer a some sort of good view of the urban core. IMHO
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Old August 9th, 2011, 10:16 PM   #7218
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A cople of WOW! interstate highway drives



Eastbound I-70 from Dillon, CO to Silver Plume, CO, though Eisenhower/Johnson Tunnel, including the highest point on the I-system - 3401 m (11158 ft) at the west portal.

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Westbound I-90 from the southeast end of Keechelus Lake to just southeast of Riverbend in Washington, across Snoqualmie Pass. Although not mentioned, the summit is at about 2:40 and works by WSDOT to upgrade more of the highway to six lanes are visible in the second minute or so. I am expecting these upgrades to ultimately continue on to I-82 at Ellensburg, WA. Note the viaduct on the westbound side of I-90 west of the pass.

Enjoy!



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Old August 10th, 2011, 12:19 AM   #7219
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You guys misunderstood me. Yes, obviously under normal circumstances you only drive in the right lane of a 4 lane divided highway unless overtaking a slower vehicle. Those are basic road rules. Anticipating that there will be more slow traffic in the right lane ahead and getting over the left earlier so merging vehicles can get on to me is perfectly in accordance with the intent of the law here. Also, the speed limit still mostly applies to overtaking so if someone is lawfully occupying the left lane for passing purposes and you come up on them, they aren't being a hog you are speeding.
I agree as long as you are actively overtaking another vehicle in the right lane. If you are cruising in the left lane at a speed generally faster than the vehicles in the right lane while there is still space for you yield to a car coming from behind you, then it is hogging the left lane to not yield to faster traffic under the guise of overtaking a line of ten vehicles in the right lane going a bit slower than you.
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Old August 10th, 2011, 04:21 AM   #7220
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Did they just install those windmills along I-65? I remember driving on that Interstate three/four years ago and I don't remember them being there?
You're right, the wind farm along I-65 in northwest Indiana was built in the last 2 years.
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