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Old October 29th, 2011, 07:21 AM   #7501
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Typical Mojave Desert flora and fauna, I suppose...



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Old October 29th, 2011, 03:47 PM   #7502
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Old October 30th, 2011, 01:35 PM   #7504
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Speaking of Phoenix.

Here's Superstition Freeway (US 60), one of the best designed freeways in Arizona. It's built below grade so it won't provide such a barrier, plus it has a convenient space reservation for more lanes, which is necessary considering the rapid growth along this corridor. The suburb of Mesa is already larger than some well-known U.S. cities like Miami, Pittsburgh or Minneapolis! The population in 2010 was 439,000.

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Old October 30th, 2011, 03:28 PM   #7505
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That pic is just awesome . A lot of exits there, more then I expected.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 04:40 PM   #7506
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Old October 30th, 2011, 05:30 PM   #7507
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Old October 30th, 2011, 10:36 PM   #7508
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Speaking of Phoenix.

Here's Superstition Freeway (US 60), one of the best designed freeways in Arizona. It's built below grade so it won't provide such a barrier, plus it has a convenient space reservation for more lanes, which is necessary considering the rapid growth along this corridor. The suburb of Mesa is already larger than some well-known U.S. cities like Miami, Pittsburgh or Minneapolis! The population in 2010 was 439,000.

While U.S. 60 is an impressive freeway in the Phoenix metro area, this shot shows the excessive level of sprawl in the greater Phoenix area. Frankly, I think it's rather ridiculous.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 10:43 PM   #7509
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I don't think it's much more ridiculous than other U.S. metropolitan areas, where the same type of housing is common, whether it's in Miami, Dallas, Denver or Phoenix. Only the setting varies, but basically Phoenix's suburbs are not that much different from those in more temperate climates. Detached houses in planned developments are common throughout North America.

The scale and speed with which these developments are build is impressive though. Phoenix was a city of 100,000 people in 1950, now it has over 4 million people in its metropolitan area. I don't get why people want to live there anyway, it's freaking hot. The freeway system is in much better shape than Los Angeles though.
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Old October 30th, 2011, 10:48 PM   #7510
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What's the vegetation among the sand? Cactus?
Desert flora and cactus species.

Love that I-15 pix..reminds me of driving to Las Vegas from San Diego..
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Old October 31st, 2011, 04:21 AM   #7511
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I love those Western desert highways. I was in Las Vegas with my family 7-8 years ago, and I insisted that we take the car out of town one day to drive around in the desert/mountains and see some scenery.

What I like about it is that you can see for miles and miles there. In the Eastern half of the U.S., all you ever see is the tree line, which obstructs your view.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 11:29 AM   #7512
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I don't think it's much more ridiculous than other U.S. metropolitan areas, where the same type of housing is common, whether it's in Miami, Dallas, Denver or Phoenix. Only the setting varies, but basically Phoenix's suburbs are not that much different from those in more temperate climates. Detached houses in planned developments are common throughout North America.

The scale and speed with which these developments are build is impressive though. Phoenix was a city of 100,000 people in 1950, now it has over 4 million people in its metropolitan area. I don't get why people want to live there anyway, it's freaking hot. The freeway system is in much better shape than Los Angeles though.
Like Florida most people who move to Phoenix do so because of the "climate" since it does not really get cold there in comparison with the rest of North America.

It's also why it has a much higher percentage of retirees compared with most other states.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 03:57 PM   #7513
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And those areas have become much more attractive since the invention of air-conditioning.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 04:12 PM   #7514
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Yep, places like Las Vegas or Phoenix would not have been so big without air conditioning. For instance, they do not have any important history for their existence. Denver and Salt Lake City were important railroad junctions and had a population of over 100,000 since the late 19th century or early 20th century. Phoenix and Las Vegas did not really exist at that time as a city of any significance.

I always wondered why Albuquerque never boomed as much as Phoenix did.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 08:53 PM   #7515
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I don't think it's much more ridiculous than other U.S. metropolitan areas, where the same type of housing is common, whether it's in Miami, Dallas, Denver or Phoenix. Only the setting varies, but basically Phoenix's suburbs are not that much different from those in more temperate climates. Detached houses in planned developments are common throughout North America.

The scale and speed with which these developments are build is impressive though. Phoenix was a city of 100,000 people in 1950, now it has over 4 million people in its metropolitan area. I don't get why people want to live there anyway, it's freaking hot. The freeway system is in much better shape than Los Angeles though.

that was nice pictures.

I agree with you, the freeway system here is one of the best in the country.
and they are in very good condition.

All of the freeways in the metro area have HOV lanes and teh keep expanding them.
They just started construction of the 303 Freeway. everyone that comes here does not realize how big is our freeway system.

as far the sprawl. you are right. everywhere is the same.
we like the typical single family homes. Phoenix is just a city like any other except the weather and the setting with is beautiful with the mountains
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Old November 1st, 2011, 02:59 AM   #7516
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I love those Western desert highways. I was in Las Vegas with my family 7-8 years ago, and I insisted that we take the car out of town one day to drive around in the desert/mountains and see some scenery.

What I like about it is that you can see for miles and miles there. In the Eastern half of the U.S., all you ever see is the tree line, which obstructs your view.
I spent 4 years in Southern California, and when I see pictures of highways in the West now I get butterflies in my stomach. The stunning beauty of the far-away vistas is never-ending.

You'll laugh that I returned to the East Coast because I missed the heat and humidity and the seasons in general.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 03:07 AM   #7517
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New Jersey has the best highway signage (even though it's aging) in my opinion, because it's big, the gantries are thick and sturdy, and the letters are oversized and easy to read.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 03:13 AM   #7518
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Speaking of Phoenix.

Here's Superstition Freeway (US 60), one of the best designed freeways in Arizona. It's built below grade so it won't provide such a barrier, plus it has a convenient space reservation for more lanes, which is necessary considering the rapid growth along this corridor. The suburb of Mesa is already larger than some well-known U.S. cities like Miami, Pittsburgh or Minneapolis! The population in 2010 was 439,000.
Growth that won't happen for the foreseeable future as that particular housing type is no longer a growth sector in the U.S. market. Keep in mind that Arizona is among the hardest-hit states of the recession, having lost its economic modus operandi in addition to its primary growth market. And also keep in mind the looming oil and water problems there...
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Old November 1st, 2011, 03:52 AM   #7519
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Arizona was booming because of people moving out of the expensive parts of California. Since the housing market crashed, people have no way of "cashing out."
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