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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:31 PM   #7521
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Thanks for those wonderful videos that you post here.
the one from Phoenix and this owe was very nice

keep them coming
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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:34 PM   #7522
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Growth that won't happen for the foreseeable future as that particular housing type is no longer a growth sector in the U.S. market. Keep in mind that Arizona is among the hardest-hit states of the recession, having lost its economic modus operandi in addition to its primary growth market. And also keep in mind the looming oil and water problems there...
which Water problem?

I have lived in and work with some engineers that provide most of the water in the valley of the sun.

we don't have water restrictions here. maybe when we get to millions people then we will have problems.

People in the East think that we have water problems here.
I got a pool at home and a lot of grass that I water almost every day.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:38 PM   #7523
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Atlanta also has water issues, while it's not anywhere near an arid region.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 06:52 PM   #7524
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which Water problem?

I have lived in and work with some engineers that provide most of the water in the valley of the sun.

we don't have water restrictions here. maybe when we get to millions people then we will have problems.

People in the East think that we have water problems here.
I got a pool at home and a lot of grass that I water almost every day.
However you look at it, green golf courses, lush lawns and open pools in desert areas are not sustainable in the long term without significant import of water.
At some point you will hit the limits of population growth.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 06:56 PM   #7525
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However you look at it, green golf courses, lush lawns and open pools in desert areas are not sustainable in the long term without significant import of water.
At some point you will hit the limits of population growth.
We will figure it out, one way or another we will survive and this deset metroplis will thrive and keep growing
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Old November 1st, 2011, 07:11 PM   #7526
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I think the main problem will be the depletion of the Colorado River and its reservoirs. The river doesn't have significant melt water during the summer period, most of the Rocky Mountains do not have glaciers or eternal snow until you hit Montana or further north. I think only the Green River in Wyoming drains glaciers.

It's about time they invent an apparatus that can make tap water out of desert sand.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 07:25 PM   #7527
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Thanks for those wonderful videos that you post here.
the one from Phoenix and this owe was very nice

keep them coming
No problem.

Here is a video of I-70 thru Utah's San Rafael Reef.

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Old November 1st, 2011, 07:33 PM   #7528
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Driving back from North Carolina through Altanta, love the massiveness and chaos.

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Old November 2nd, 2011, 05:14 PM   #7529
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We will figure it out, one way or another we will survive and this deset metroplis will thrive and keep growing
No, you won't keep growing indefinitely. At some point cost of importing water will be too high.
Not to mention screwing environment completely.

Also at some point people from other regions might refuse to sell you water to keep your golf courses green and your pools blue

Anyway, it's becoming OT.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 08:14 PM   #7530
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New section of Interstate open

I don't have any article links handy, but the NY 17 bypass of Parksville, NY opened very recently with two-way traffic on its eastbound side. The westbound side will open when it is completed in a few months. This eliminates a very nasty traffic-signal intersection from NY 17 and the highway will become I-86 when the last of it between I-81 at Binghamton, NY and the New York State Thruway (I-87) at Harriman, NY is brought up to standards.

Here is a recently-posted drive around of the area, both the new road (its eastbound side is now open) and the former road in this very rural area:



Also, see:
http://maps.google.com/?ll=41.856009...k&z=14&vpsrc=6
for an overview of this area.



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Old November 4th, 2011, 02:24 AM   #7532
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Are those your videos Diablo?
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Old November 4th, 2011, 02:32 AM   #7533
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Yep, places like Las Vegas or Phoenix would not have been so big without air conditioning. For instance, they do not have any important history for their existence. Denver and Salt Lake City were important railroad junctions and had a population of over 100,000 since the late 19th century or early 20th century. Phoenix and Las Vegas did not really exist at that time as a city of any significance.

I always wondered why Albuquerque never boomed as much as Phoenix did.
Arizona is more Republican/capitalist/business friendly than New Mexico, so it grows faster. For example, Arizona is right to work, and New Mexico is not.

Part of it might also be the climate. People go to Arizona seeking hot, desert weather. I would go there because of my allergies/asthma. Albuquerque is 5,000 feet up, which probably makes it hard for old retirees with COPD to breath there. It also gets proper cold there in the winter, which means that people looking to escape the snow belt aren't going to go there.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 02:51 AM   #7534
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Are those your videos Diablo?
Nope, I just find them and post them here.
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Old November 4th, 2011, 11:53 PM   #7537
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beautiful highway.

that is why I love living in Arizona.
the desert, the forest, the snowed mountains and everything in between
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Definitely one of the best freeways in the Rocky Mountains. Maybe even the best, it only has to rival I-15 in Salt Lake City.
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Old November 6th, 2011, 07:50 PM   #7540
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Definitely one of the best freeways in the Rocky Mountains. Maybe even the best, it only has to rival I-15 in Salt Lake City.
Has that freeway taken on a 'cobblestone' texture on its driving surface yet (characteristic of the use of studded tires)? I recall that when I was in that area during a roadtrip in the 1990s, all of the freeways were like driving on cobblestones and that the concrete on one of them (I-270 NW of old Stapleton Airport) was worn so deeply that it was breaking through in places.

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