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Old November 6th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #7541
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Old November 6th, 2011, 10:09 PM   #7542
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Ex VA-350 and ex I-95.

These are apparently the oldest reversible lanes in the United States.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 12:28 AM   #7543
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That picture must have been taken on a good day. During rush hour I-395 just like every other freeway/expressway in the DC area is backed up beyond belief.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 12:32 AM   #7544
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Has that freeway taken on a 'cobblestone' texture on its driving surface yet (characteristic of the use of studded tires)? I recall that when I was in that area during a roadtrip in the 1990s, all of the freeways were like driving on cobblestones and that the concrete on one of them (I-270 NW of old Stapleton Airport) was worn so deeply that it was breaking through in places.

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Nope, they just redid all of the freeways in the Denver area (with the exception of the I-70 viaduct) so they all have brand new pavement.

The T-Rex expansion alone added several new lanes to I-25, not to mention new interchanges, and a new light rail line aloingside the freeway.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 11:32 AM   #7545
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Mahwah. Probably the strangest control city.

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Old November 7th, 2011, 03:08 PM   #7546
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Stranger than "Del Water Gap" or "Smith Road"? :-)

Seriously, don't get me started on American control-city practices. Navigating here by destinations is like navigating in Europe by route numbers. ;-)
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Old November 7th, 2011, 05:26 PM   #7547
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You're telling me! The first couple of times that I went roadtripping in that area during the late 1990s the 'Del Water Gap' control completely befuddled me. 'Pennsylvania', in the same manner as IDOT uses 'Indiana', 'Iowa' and 'Wisconsin' as controls in and around Chicago, would have been much clearer!

'Mahwah', though, is a legitimate city in New Jersey and Smith Road is one of the local roads that the ramps at that interchange give direct access to.

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Old November 7th, 2011, 05:34 PM   #7548
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Mahwah is pretty small, but not reasonable alternatives like major cities are located along I-287. Mostly small suburbs not distinguishable from the other.

I-80, on the other hand, is a major transportation route, however, it does not directly serve any significant cities in Pennsylvania. I think Cleveland or Scranton would've been signed if this was in Europe. For a country the size of the United States most control cities are surprisingly close by.
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Well, Illinois is the other extreme from New Jersey: "Memphis" all the way up in Chicago for I-57? As opposed to Kankakee or Champaign-Urbana? Or both? And I don't know what we have against putting more than one place on a sign. (So: Kankakee, Memphis. Joliet, St. Louis. South Bend, Toledo. You get the idea.)
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Old November 7th, 2011, 05:37 PM   #7550
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Mahwah is pretty small, but not reasonable alternatives like major cities are located along I-287. Mostly small suburbs not distinguishable from the other.

I-80, on the other hand, is a major transportation route, however, it does not directly serve any significant cities in Pennsylvania. I think Cleveland or Scranton would've been signed if this was in Europe. For a country the size of the United States most control cities are surprisingly close by.
I think a lot of states might go with Albany for 287 northbound. But New Jersey's allergic to places out of state. Even "New York" tends to take a back seat to Newark. And Philadelphia doesn't exist until you're within sight of the skyline.
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Well, Illinois is the other extreme from New Jersey: "Memphis" all the way up in Chicago for I-57? As opposed to Kankakee or Champaign-Urbana? Or both? And I don't know what we have against putting more than one place on a sign. (So: Kankakee, Memphis. Joliet, St. Louis. South Bend, Toledo. You get the idea.)
Most countries usually have 2 or 3 major cities listed as a control city. What is "major" depends on the context. On I-57, Memphis is by far the largest city in terms of population, but for rural Illinois, Kankakee or Champaign-Urbana are pretty "major" places. However, I think Kankakee or Champaign-Urbana are too unknown for out-of-staters, so by adding Memphis is gives a better defined direction where the Interstate is going to.

Just be happy that you don't have Polish control cities Then Cairo would've been signed all the way across Illinois. And East St. Louis will be signed all the way on I-55, instead of St. Louis itself.
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Old November 7th, 2011, 07:31 PM   #7552
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Especially immortal Jędrzychowice on A4 (BTW - how to spell it being non-Pole? )

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Why the southern entrance has speed limit 75 and northern one - only (silly) 55?
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Old November 8th, 2011, 01:04 AM   #7553
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I think a lot of states might go with Albany for 287 northbound. But New Jersey's allergic to places out of state. Even "New York" tends to take a back seat to Newark. And Philadelphia doesn't exist until you're within sight of the skyline.
Typical Jersey.
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Old November 8th, 2011, 05:25 AM   #7554
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I don't know if someone posted it before, but I think it's a nice video.

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There popular places for New Jerseyites to get away , Smith road is a busy road if i'm not mistake with alot of warehouses. Mahwah has a very large college and few corporations and the Del Water Gap attracts alot of tourists...
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I think a lot of states might go with Albany for 287 northbound. But New Jersey's allergic to places out of state. Even "New York" tends to take a back seat to Newark. And Philadelphia doesn't exist until you're within sight of the skyline.
Interestingly enough, Philadelphia doesn't exist as a control city even in Baltimore. Just New York. Philly maybe shows up on some mileage signs, but that's about it.
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I am well aware of it. New York is completely out of hand.
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There popular places for New Jerseyites to get away , Smith road is a busy road if i'm not mistake with alot of warehouses. Mahwah has a very large college and few corporations and the Del Water Gap attracts alot of tourists...
"They're"
"a lot"

The thing about Interstates is, they serve people from multiple states, not just local daytrippers. I-80 goes all the way across the country. Most states would post the next major city. Granted, Cleveland's a bit far from New Jersey....
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The thing about Interstates is, they serve people from multiple states, not just local daytrippers. I-80 goes all the way across the country. Most states would post the next major city. Granted, Cleveland's a bit far from New Jersey....
Theres nothing on the PA side , at least in terms of big cities. The Del Water Gap extends onto the PA side and includes a few towns on that side. Why does everybody seem to have an issue with what my state does , its always something wrong , or not normal by US standards....its fine by Jersey standards...
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I am well aware of it. New York is completely out of hand.
It's probably because most north-south traffic gets off at I-95, and then heads over the Delaware Memorial Bridge into the New Jersey Turnpike therefore bypassing Philadelphia.

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Why the southern entrance has speed limit 75 and northern one - only (silly) 55?
It's because at that point there are two major interchanges with I-70 and US 36, I-76, and I-270 so traffic counts along that section are high.

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