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Old December 9th, 2012, 12:17 PM   #8521
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Do you think the average motorist really cares whether the number is out of order? Do they care if I-68 is south of I-62?

It makes more sense when short numbers are for major routes and longer numbers are for shorter, less important routes.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 04:24 PM   #8522
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I'm not all giddy over US 41's current upgrades nor its pending interstate promotion, to me it's all just another highway construction project in US 41's 85+ years of ever-ongoing evolution. I'm much more giddy about US 10's ongoing upgrades between Appleton and Stevens Point and WI 26's ongoing upgrades between Oshkosh and Janesville.



As for I-781, I can see it eventually being extended northeastward from just north of its US 11 interchange, perhaps all the way to and beyond Champlain, NY.

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MGK, do you happen to know when construction is scheduled to start on WI23 between Plymouth and Fond du Lac? Curious because the DOT's website says 2012, but there's not much of 2012 left.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #8523
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Do you think the average motorist really cares whether the number is out of order? Do they care if I-68 is south of I-62?
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I'm sure 99 percent of them don't even notice. I-99 doesn't bother me at all. But some roadgeeks get as worked up about 99 as they do about 97 and 238.
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Old December 9th, 2012, 07:20 PM   #8524
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MGK, do you happen to know when construction is scheduled to start on WI23 between Plymouth and Fond du Lac? Curious because the DOT's website says 2012, but there's not much of 2012 left.
WISDOT website states that three bridge structures, one over Sheboygan River, Mullet River(lol, mullet), and the Ice Age Trail are the only 2012 items for the WI-23 project. The more in-depth major work begins in 2013 for Sheboygan County, 2014 and 2015 for Fond du Lac County.

http://www.dot.wi.gov/projects/neregion/23/schedule.htm
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Old December 9th, 2012, 10:56 PM   #8525
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Don't say this to the folks over on AARoads.
I'm thinking on go trolling there . That fits perfectly onto me, but is for non-dumb Americans. But then again, if Chris is there...
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Old December 10th, 2012, 06:32 AM   #8526
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WISDOT website states that three bridge structures, one over Sheboygan River, Mullet River(lol, mullet), and the Ice Age Trail are the only 2012 items for the WI-23 project. The more in-depth major work begins in 2013 for Sheboygan County, 2014 and 2015 for Fond du Lac County.

http://www.dot.wi.gov/projects/neregion/23/schedule.htm
Ah, thank you.

To make this on-topic, I submit that I-35 through Kansas is the best US Freeway I've ever driven.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=kansas...,66.97,,0,2.56

It should be held up as an example for all US freeways. Discuss.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 05:55 PM   #8527
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So Kansas City is already the metro with the most freeway miles per capita in the world, so they are planing a new interstate outer loop....
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/09...k=omni_popular
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That is also about the only part of the Kansas City metropolitan area with significant population growth.
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Old December 10th, 2012, 06:06 PM   #8529
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So Kansas City is already the metro with the most freeway miles per capita in the world, so they are planing a new interstate outer loop....
http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/09...k=omni_popular
Why does the Kansas City Star, or whoever's behind that website, think route 71's a New Jersey state route? :-)
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It will be I-49 starting this Wednesday.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 01:25 AM   #8531
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Technically I-97 is not a discrepancy; it is east of I-95. But it is so small and uneventful that it feels "wasted", it would have logically been better off as a spur of 95...like 895 or something.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned I-99 which is in the middle of PA.
895 already existed in Maryland prior to 97 opening. AND it has its own spur!

There were plans to extend the route designation along US 50 to the Capital Beltway (per dcroads.net), as well as use of the route as DC's outer beltway, but obviously those got scrapped.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 02:18 AM   #8532
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I'm sure 99 percent of them don't even notice. I-99 doesn't bother me at all. But some roadgeeks get as worked up about 99 as they do about 97 and 238.
At the end of the day, its just a number.

There was no uproar when Birmingham's Northern Beltline got the I-422 designation. Even though it doesnt begin or end at I-22.

Speaking of this ever delayed project, I have serious doubts this ever gets built.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 02:31 AM   #8533
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At the end of the day, its just a number.

There was no uproar when Birmingham's Northern Beltline got the I-422 designation. Even though it doesnt begin or end at I-22.

Speaking of this ever delayed project, I have serious doubts this ever gets built.
Several even 3dis connect somewhere else on either end. As long as they intersect with the parent, no one says much. I-422 is certainly a better implementation than the x78s in NYC which never touch I-78 (though at least one was supposed to)... and where is I-38 again?
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Old December 12th, 2012, 03:35 AM   #8534
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Was 678 always planned to have its southern terminus at JFK? If so, it would have crossed 78 if 78 had been built as planned. The 1961 Rand McNally road atlas I have somewhere at my mother's house shows the proposed 78 crossing...well, as briefly as possible, running from the Williamsburg Bridge southeast to the airport, then looping up through southeastern Queens and taking what is now 295 (or 295 then 695; I'm not sure) up to 95 in the east Bronx.

What I don't remember is if 678 had its southern terminus in the area of the later Shea Stadium or ran down the Van Wyck as it now does. But even if it didn't run south, it would have met (still does...) 278 at Bruckner Interchange, so that's something.

Sorry if I've lost everyone....

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Now that I think of it, the unbuilt parts of 78 weren't dropped until about 1973, so for a while what is now 295 (or 295 and 695), including the Throgs Neck Bridge, was open and designated I-78, at least on maps. Not sure if it was signed as such.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 08:42 AM   #8535
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895 already existed in Maryland prior to 97 opening. AND it has its own spur!

There were plans to extend the route designation along US 50 to the Capital Beltway (per dcroads.net), as well as use of the route as DC's outer beltway, but obviously those got scrapped.
Actually if I am not mistaken US 50 between DC and the Bay Bridge already has a secret Interstate route designation dubbed I-595, although it is just signed as US 50.
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Old December 12th, 2012, 11:54 AM   #8536
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Interstate 49 in Missouri

The Interstate Highway System grows by 180 miles today, because US 71 in Missouri is officially renumbered to I-49 between the Arkansas state line and Kansas City.



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Old December 12th, 2012, 05:09 PM   #8537
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New section of interstate open

(Chris beat me to it, but I'll post it anyways)

Ongoing needed upgrades to US 71 in Missouri, USA, running from I-435/470 in Kansas City, MO southwards to Pineville, MO (just north of the Arkansas state line), about 290 km, are complete and the highway is now I-49.

http://www.nevadadailymail.com/story/1921387.html

http://modot.org/southwest/major_pro...Conversion.htm

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"Gas Explosion 'Cooks' Interstate":

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2279577.html

The "cooks" bit was the headline on the Huffington Post home page.
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WISDOT website states that three bridge structures, one over Sheboygan River, Mullet River(lol, mullet), and the Ice Age Trail are the only 2012 items for the WI-23 project. The more in-depth major work begins in 2013 for Sheboygan County, 2014 and 2015 for Fond du Lac County.

http://www.dot.wi.gov/projects/neregion/23/schedule.htm
Although not an interstate, even though WisDOT could, if they wanted to, make a valid case before AASHTO and the FHWA to designate the freeway part in the Sheboygan area as an 'odd' 3di spur from I-43, WI 23 east of Fond du Lac is one of my very favorite drives in the entire State of Wisconsin. Yes, it does need the upgrades.

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Old December 12th, 2012, 07:34 PM   #8540
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"Gas Explosion 'Cooks' Interstate":

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2279577.html

The "cooks" bit was the headline on the Huffington Post home page.
Damn! That looks serious. A while ago some vandals set fire to some rubbish underneath an Autobahn Bridge in Germany. The end result: entire bridge needed replacement.
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