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Old February 13th, 2013, 12:38 AM   #8761
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At least the US doesn't suffer from the phenomenon that is "elephant racing".
Oh no, that problem exists in the U.S. too.

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In the UK and rest of Europe, trucks are governed to a maximum speed of 56mph (90kph). In reality there will be trucks that will max out at speeds between 55 and 57 mph and this creates a frequent situation where trucks will try and pass each over with a speed differential of less than 1mph, but on roads where the speed limit for most vehicles is 70mph.
While trucks aren't governed over here, I've seen what you've described as "elephant racing" on 2x2 freeways in California on I-5, I-80, I-15, and CA-99. In California, the speed limit for auto traffic is 65-70 MPH while trucks have a 55 MPH limit and on 2x2 freeways, trucks are allowed to use the left lane only to pass slower moving vehicles. The problem is when one truck is going 60 and the one behind is going 61, invariably, the one going 61 pulls out into the left lane to pass and it might take a couple of miles before the faster truck completes the pass. In the meantime, auto traffic backs up behind the truck frustrating drivers.

Oh, and one other thing, I have seen this happen when the trucks are going up a hill... at 40-50 MPH! Argh!
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Old February 13th, 2013, 03:42 AM   #8762
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yes we do actually have a little bit of "elephant racing." It stems from the larger carrier companies (one I work for) that govern the vehicles, lately between 55, 57, 60, 63, 65 mph. Mine is governed at 60 with cruise, foot pedal goes to 63 but when the foot pedal is used past 60, quarterly bonus is eaten away at (though that doesn't stop me). My boss on these boards???
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Old February 13th, 2013, 04:08 AM   #8763
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govern the vehicles, lately between 55, 57, 60, 63, 65 mph.
I think this is one of the many reasons why there is a recruiting crisis in the North American OTR trucking industry. Who wants to be stuck only going 60 through the middle of fracking Nebraska on I-80, talk about pulling your hair out. IMHO
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Old February 13th, 2013, 11:26 AM   #8764
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European truckers would kill for 60 mph. Most countries have a truck speed limit of 50 or 55 mph.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 01:15 PM   #8765
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At least the US doesn't suffer from the phenomenon that is "elephant racing". In the UK and rest of Europe, trucks are governed to a maximum speed of 56mph (90kph). In reality there will be trucks that will max out at speeds between 55 and 57 mph and this creates a frequent situation where trucks will try and pass each over with a speed differential of less than 1mph, but on roads where the speed limit for most vehicles is 70mph. So as you can guess these situations can each lead to long lines of traffic platooning behind trucks taking miles to pass each other and this can cause congestion on routes, not because of high traffic levels but to "elephant racing" which are effectively 55mph rolling roadblocks. This happens on 2 lane dual carriageways (4 lane divided highways) as trucks are banned from using the 3rd lane on wider highways. There have even been times that the truck that has been passed will have to re-overtake the truck that took more then ten minutes to pass it because it has a heavy load and the next inclines has robbed it of mementum. So the frustration begins all over again. Quite often, because all traffic ends up queueing in the outside lane behind the passing truck, other trucks will undertake in the clear inside lane then barge in (their method usually involves indication, and crating a gap to force themselves into), so again more elephant racing and more frustration as others struggle to get past to a clear road ahead.
Sounds like I-65 between Indianapolis and Chicago, where one truck will take 5 to 10 minutes just to pass another one, two, or several... meanwhile all the passenger cars stay in the left lane behind the passing truck going 65 mph waiting for the opportunity to go 70+. A lot of trucking companies in the Northern US seem to like setting speed limits on their trucks. This doesn't seem to be very common here in the South where trucks regularly go as fast as other vehicles.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 01:40 PM   #8766
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European truckers would kill for 60 mph. Most countries have a truck speed limit of 50 or 55 mph.
And even in the UK, where it is 60mph on motorways, they can only do 90km/h (56mph) due to the EU-mandated limiters.

And because some people have them set slightly lower, plus mandated breaks (you don't want to get 1 mile away from your destination, have to take a 45 minute break, then do the couple of minute's extra driving before waiting 45 minutes while they unload/load/both), doing 1mph differential overtakes are commonplace. And due to being physically limited, you can't accelerate past the other truck, unlike the US situation.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 04:42 PM   #8767
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And even in the UK, where it is 60mph on motorways, they can only do 90km/h (56mph) due to the EU-mandated limiters.

And because some people have them set slightly lower, plus mandated breaks (you don't want to get 1 mile away from your destination, have to take a 45 minute break, then do the couple of minute's extra driving before waiting 45 minutes while they unload/load/both), doing 1mph differential overtakes are commonplace. And due to being physically limited, you can't accelerate past the other truck, unlike the US situation.
Tell that to the Irish, they seem to be flying passed everybody.
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Old February 19th, 2013, 10:37 AM   #8770
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New I-244 Arkansas River bridge

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Tulsa, OK. This new Arkansas River bridge in Tulsa on Interstate 244 opened in December 2012. Not visible from here, the new bridge is a double decker. Lower deck was designed to carry rail traffic and also has a pedestrian/bicycle bridge.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 09:36 PM   #8771
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I-24, Tennessee

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I-24 in Nashville
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I-24 / SR-840 interchange.
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I-24 across Nickajack Lake
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I-24 in Chattanooga.
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Old February 21st, 2013, 10:05 PM   #8772
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The last two pics are awesome spots, one of the best sections of interstates in the eastern US.
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 01:23 PM   #8773
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The last two pics are awesome spots, one of the best sections of interstates in the eastern US.
I drove there last year and didn't find it particularly spectacular. There are much more scenic stretches all over the US.
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Old February 22nd, 2013, 09:28 PM   #8774
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I-95 Express Lanes, Virginia

Aerial photos of the I-95 Express Lanes construction in northern Virginia. Photos by VDOT.

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Old February 23rd, 2013, 12:58 AM   #8775
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Corridor X (I-22) still on target for completion in late 2014.

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BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- Construction of the final segment of Corridor X remains on schedule for completion in late 2014, according to Alabama Department of Transportation officials.

Overpasses continue to take shape as crews with Archer Western Contractors inch toward fusing the new highway with Interstate 65 between Birmingham and Fultondale.

The price tag for the 1.5-mile project stands at more than $168.8 million, ALDOT spokeswoman Linda Crockett said.

A network of 14 ramps and 14 bridges will carry traffic between the two routes.

The junction will be similar in style to the Interstate 65/Interstate 459 interchange in Hoover.

When complete, Corridor X will be renamed Interstate 22 and will link Birmingham with Memphis, Tenn.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 06:49 AM   #8776
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So I take it they are finally extending the HOV Lanes on I-95 in Virginia to Fredericksburg in addition to converting them to HOT Lanes?

Considering the traffic levels on that stretch that was long overdue.
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Old February 23rd, 2013, 09:02 PM   #8777
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I-10 San Bernardino Freeway, Los Angeles, CA

The express lanes along I-10 between I-605 and Downtown Los Angeles opened to traffic today. The former El Monte Busway has been widened to 4 lanes and is now a HOT facility, the second in Los Angeles after the Harbor Transitway was converted to a 4-lane HOT facility in late 2012.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 12:49 AM   #8778
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I drove there last year and didn't find it particularly spectacular. There are much more scenic stretches all over the US.
Well again its nothing like the mountains out west or jak w gorach w polsce. But I think its one of the nicest areas on the east coast as far as interstates going through the mountains. Of course the nicer areas are off the interstate like these pictures of Raccoon mountains for example which is a few miles off I-24.





Also right off I-24. I like how when driving into Chattanooga you dip into a valley.



I've been to Chattanooga many times, I think it has very nice natural scenery. I also have never been out west lol. Seasons also make a difference, when its green or fall colors it looks the best obviously. For more scenic stretches you need to go to the Smoky mountains area using the 2 lane country roads, if you haven't already been anyways.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 04:07 PM   #8779
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I've been to Chattanooga many times, I think it has very nice natural scenery. I also have never been out west lol. Seasons also make a difference, when its green or fall colors it looks the best obviously. For more scenic stretches you need to go to the Smoky mountains area using the 2 lane country roads, if you haven't already been anyways.
I went to Chattanooga last year. Drove up the Signal Mountain and view from there is indeed spectacular.
When I said that I-24 wasn't the most spectacular I was rather referring to the picture you posted initially, the stretch along the river in Chattanooga. It is a bit messy and not as much fun as some other bits of it.
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Old February 24th, 2013, 04:35 PM   #8780
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Oh ok I get what you are saying. Yes Signal mountain and lookout mountains I'd say are both pretty decent. I-24 is a pretty nice drive (for an interstate) north of Chattanooga going towards Nasheville.
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