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Old May 10th, 2013, 10:07 PM   #8901
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I-495 in NC = US 64 from Raleigh to Rocky Mount? About time!

Only thing about that route is that apart from the Knightdale bypass, the shoulders are substandard.
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Old May 10th, 2013, 11:31 PM   #8902
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I-495 in NC = US 64 from Raleigh to Rocky Mount?

Apart from the Knightdale bypass, the shoulders are substandard.
Yes, it is. Plan is to designate US 64 as I-495 between I-440 and I-540 and as "I-495 Future" from I-540 to I-95 near Rocky Mount, so they will name it just I-495 when issues like that you said are solved.


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Interstate 2 in southern Texas near the Mexican Border (U.S. 83 from Mission, TX to Harlingen, TX)
It would be good if they extended it in the future to El Paso or any near point, I think.

And now that I-2 is coming, could it be time for a I-1?
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Yes, it is. Plan is to designate US 64 as I-495 between I-440 and I-540 and as "I-495 Future" from I-540 to I-95 near Rocky Mount, so they will name it just I-495 when issues like that you said are solved.
I wonder how long NCDOT will take to upgrade 64 though... or how high on their priority list it is.

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And now that I-2 is coming, could it be time for a I-1?
Where would they put it, and what purpose would it serve?
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Old May 11th, 2013, 05:32 AM   #8904
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Where would they put it, and what purpose would it serve?
miss his original post about I-2? its going to run between Harlingen, TX and Mission, TX. Its already limited access highway.
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Old May 11th, 2013, 05:41 AM   #8905
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miss his original post about I-2? its going to run between Harlingen, TX and Mission, TX. Its already limited access highway.
I saw. The thing is, though, that I-2 fits within the grid, as it's a very southerly east-west route.

But an I-1 would have to be a north-south route west of I-5 (unless someone goes all Bud Shuster on us).
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Old May 11th, 2013, 07:31 AM   #8906
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And now that I-2 is coming, could it be time for an I-1?
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Where would they put it, and what purpose would it serve?
It would be a good name for a conversion of US 101 to Interstate System from Los Ángeles to San Francisco.

Although my idea (correct or not) would be giving the name I-1 (and I-1 Future) to a Tecate, CA to Olympia, WA coastal highway, including the US 101 stretch said above. Complete list would be:
  • SR 188, from Mexican border in Tecate to SR 94
  • SR 94, to SR 125 near La Mesa
  • SR 125, to SR 52 near Carlton Oaks Country Club
  • SR 52, to SR 67 near Gillespie Field Airport
  • SR 67, to SR 78 in Ramona
  • SR 78, from Ramona to SR 79 in Santa Ysabel
  • SR 79, from Santa Ysabel to I 15 in Temecula
  • I 15, from Temecula to I 215 by Murrieta
  • I 215, to SR 60 in Riverside
  • SR 60, to SR 71 near Chino Hills
  • SR 71, to SR 57 near Devry Institute of Technology
  • SR 57, to I 210 near Louie Pompei Sports Park
  • I 210, to SR 134 in Pasadena
  • SR 134, to US 101 by Studio City
  • US 101, from Studio City to I 680 in San José
  • I 680, from US 101 in San Jose to I 80
  • I 80, connecting I 680 and SR 12 near Green Valley Shopping Center
  • SR 12, near South Cordelia to SR 121
  • SR 121, connecting SR 12 and SR 116 near Sonoma Valley Airport
  • SR 116, to US 101 in Petaluma
  • US 101, from Petaluma, CA to SR 107, WA
  • SR 107, to US 12 in Montesano
  • US 12, from Montesano to Elma
  • SR 8, from Elma to US 101
  • US 101, to I 5 in Olympia, WA
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Old May 11th, 2013, 07:50 AM   #8907
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But then you run into the problem of reduplicating route numbers, which Caltrans doesn't seem to like to do except for extensions of Interstate highways that don't meet the standards. Especially pertinent considering that I-1 and CA 1 would parallel each other.

And as iconic as the PCH is, I'm almost certain they wouldn't consider renumbering it.

(Pardon my super-practicality. )
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Old May 11th, 2013, 08:23 AM   #8908
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You are just right. It would be the ideal place for an I-1, specially north of Los Ángeles, but I didn't think about SR 1.

They could always call this route I-1 north of Leggett, thus creating an '1 route' from Dana Point to Olympia, and I-13 or another suitable number (13 would be duplicate too) south of Leggett.

If anyone has good ideas about new Interstates, we could get them together and send them wherever they would take them into account.
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Old May 11th, 2013, 03:53 PM   #8909
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Funny you mention new ideas for Interstates...
Funny you mention new Interstates. I was just thinking about I-73 and 74, which are being built rather expeditiously in NC but not in the more northern states they're supposed to pass through.

Not sure about I-73, though, since the majority of the route north of VA has been programmed to be built below standards (or not at all). If this is the case, the route number would end up out of place in the grid. If the route is built all the way to Myrtle Beach as envisioned, I'd advocate re-designating it as 97 while simultaneously extending I-83 in Maryland south to replace existing 97.

As far as I-74, I'm thinking that if plans in OH and WV don't come through, and with some planned (and unplanned?) upgrades to US 74, they could be a new route from Wilmington to Hendersonville via Charlotte. Call it I-32/34/36/38 or something. And the route from Lexington to Winston-Salem -- planned I-285 -- can extend all the way to Mount Airy, replacing current I-74. Additionally, I-74 through High Point could be renumbered as a spur of I-73 (or according to my idea above, 97).

We could do this all day.
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Old May 11th, 2013, 06:07 PM   #8910
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At the there spring meeting AASHTO recently approved two new Interstates:
Interstate 2 in southern Texas near the Mexican Border (U.S. 83 from Mission, TX to Harlingen, TX)

and I-495 in North Carolina

http://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9416.0
Excited to see Texas get a new Interstate even if it's really an existing highway. They should extend it to Laredo.
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Old May 12th, 2013, 04:59 AM   #8911
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I've created a little notebook for Interstate ideas, so whenever you have an idea you can write it here (I'll do too, I already added I 1, and 3 more ideas), apart from sharing it in the forum, of course!

As I said yesterday, if we get a good number of proposals, we can send them to transportation authorities to try to make them real. So you can share this notebook with more roadfans, and then we can get more ideas.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...it?usp=sharing
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Old May 12th, 2013, 04:15 PM   #8912
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I can send these proposals to the guys at AA Roads forum, since I have an account there. Heck, I've got envolved on a fictional NASCAR league there...
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Old May 13th, 2013, 09:51 PM   #8913
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  • SR 188, from Mexican border in Tecate to SR 94
  • SR 94, to SR 125 near La Mesa
  • SR 125, to SR 52 near Carlton Oaks Country Club
  • SR 52, to SR 67 near Gillespie Field Airport
  • SR 67, to SR 78 in Ramona
  • SR 78, from Ramona to SR 79 in Santa Ysabel
  • SR 79, from Santa Ysabel to I 15 in Temecula
  • I 15, from Temecula to I 215 by Murrieta
  • I 215, to SR 60 in Riverside
  • SR 60, to SR 71 near Chino Hills
  • SR 71, to SR 57 near Devry Institute of Technology
  • SR 57, to I 210 near Louie Pompei Sports Park
  • I 210, to SR 134 in Pasadena
  • SR 134, to US 101 by Studio City
  • US 101, from Studio City to I 680 in San José
  • I 680, from US 101 in San Jose to I 80
  • I 80, connecting I 680 and SR 12 near Green Valley Shopping Center
  • SR 12, near South Cordelia to SR 121
  • SR 121, connecting SR 12 and SR 116 near Sonoma Valley Airport
  • SR 116, to US 101 in Petaluma
  • US 101, from Petaluma, CA to SR 107, WA
  • SR 107, to US 12 in Montesano
  • US 12, from Montesano to Elma
  • SR 8, from Elma to US 101
  • US 101, to I 5 in Olympia, WA
I see many problems with this routing.

* The southern portion, south of Studio City according to the above list, would violate the Interstate grid system by being east of both I-15 and I-5.

* Second there are way too many turn-off-to-stay-on situations in this route (CA-94 to CA-125, CA-60 to CA-71, US 101 to I-680 just to name a few) which would make traffic unbearable at those interchanges.

* Third, I noticed that there are stretches where this proposed I-1 overlaps with existing interstates. Would these sections be co-signed with both routes or would 3DI's like I-210, I-215 and I-680 have their numbers changed to I-1? Caltrans really does not like co-signing routes (e.g. CA-99 though Sacramento)

* Fourth, like others have posted, California does not allow route number duplication and with CA-1 being such an iconic route, I don't see how I-1 will ever see the light of day.

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Just make sure you put this in the "Fictional Highways" section.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 10:22 PM   #8914
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I-35E / I-635 interchange near Dallas, TX.
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Old May 13th, 2013, 11:16 PM   #8915
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I see many problems with this routing.

* The southern portion, south of Studio City according to the above list, would violate the Interstate grid system by being east of both I-15 and I-5.

* Second there are way too many turn-off-to-stay-on situations in this route (CA-94 to CA-125, CA-60 to CA-71, US 101 to I-680 just to name a few) which would make traffic unbearable at those interchanges.

* Third, I noticed that there are stretches where this proposed I-1 overlaps with existing interstates. Would these sections be co-signed with both routes or would 3DI's like I-210, I-215 and I-680 have their numbers changed to I-1? Caltrans really does not like co-signing routes (e.g. CA-99 though Sacramento)

* Fourth, like others have posted, California does not allow route number duplication and with CA-1 being such an iconic route, I don't see how I-1 will ever see the light of day.
Well, that is my first approach and first ideas about Interstates. I still have to learn more about American roads and how they work. If I have more ideas later, I'll share, trying to make them better. Thanks for your answers.
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Well, that is my first approach and first ideas about Interstates. I still have to learn more about American roads and how they work. If I have more ideas later, I'll share, trying to make them better. Thanks for your answers.
No problem.

Over at the AARoads forum (where I am also a member) there are numerous discussions about what to do with US 101 in California and, to some extent, in Washington and Oregon too. The most prevalent (and realistic IMO) is to sign US 101 between Los Angeles and San Francisco as I-3. CA-3 runs through the coast range between Yreka and CA-36 and can be renumbered without too much fuss so that solves the route number duplication problem. Extending I-3 to Oregon and Washington is a problem since there is no freeway that runs through the city of San Francisco to route a proposed I-3 onto and there is ZERO chance of getting a freeway built.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 04:27 AM   #8917
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Funny you mention new ideas for Interstates...
Funny you mention new Interstates. I was just thinking about I-73 and 74, which are being built rather expeditiously in NC but not in the more northern states they're supposed to pass through.

Not sure about I-73, though, since the majority of the route north of VA has been programmed to be built below standards (or not at all). If this is the case, the route number would end up out of place in the grid. If the route is built all the way to Myrtle Beach as envisioned, I'd advocate re-designating it as 97 while simultaneously extending I-83 in Maryland south to replace existing 97.

As far as I-74, I'm thinking that if plans in OH and WV don't come through, and with some planned (and unplanned?) upgrades to US 74, they could be a new route from Wilmington to Hendersonville via Charlotte. Call it I-32/34/36/38 or something. And the route from Lexington to Winston-Salem -- planned I-285 -- can extend all the way to Mount Airy, replacing current I-74. Additionally, I-74 through High Point could be renumbered as a spur of I-73 (or according to my idea above, 97).

We could do this all day.
Not sure how 83 would extend; would you just have it a shared route along 695?
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Old May 14th, 2013, 04:49 AM   #8918
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Not sure how 83 would extend; would you just have it a shared route along 695?
Yes, exactly. Then I would renumber the JFX as I-183 or something like that.
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Some photos of the reconstruction of I-20 eastbound in the Birmingham area. I-20 east from I-59 to I-459 has been closed since March, work is expected to be completed in July, then I-20 westbound will be closed.

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