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Old December 1st, 2013, 08:57 PM   #9301
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Safe or not, how much is actually going on in downtown Detroit? The impression one gets from the media out in the rest of the country is of vacant skyscrapers and empty sidewalks... and the traffic counts, as I've already remarked, seem to bear that out.
I've never being there, but from what people post on Detroit development thread back in the North American forum, Downtown seems to be doing fine. Lots of new lofts, retail is expanding. Outside the loop, on the other hand, the urban prairies are there to stay.
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Old December 1st, 2013, 09:40 PM   #9302
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Safe or not, how much is actually going on in downtown Detroit? The impression one gets from the media out in the rest of the country is of vacant skyscrapers and empty sidewalks... and the traffic counts, as I've already remarked, seem to bear that out.

DISCLAIMER: That's a sincere question.
Maybe downtown Detroit is not as happening as your native Philadelphia or whatever. But the downtown (and Midtown) of Detroit have several massive employers including GM, Wayne State University, BCBS, etc. as well as large hospitals and law firms, with commuters coming in from distant suburbs as well as from Canada. As decrepit as they may seem to you, these regions actually have seen considerable investment the past 20 years in the form of 2 (soon to be 3) pro-sports stadiums and 3 Atlantic City sized casinos, which actually do draw a lot of people downtown.
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Old December 1st, 2013, 10:27 PM   #9303
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(Much good the disclaimer did (rolleyes))

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Old December 1st, 2013, 10:35 PM   #9304
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I thought the '89 earthquake necessitated tearing it down?

EDIT: So that the question then became whether to rebuild it.
I realize, of course, that to some people here an urban waterfront is just tragically incomplete without a double-decker freeway. Just like the Acropolis, St. Peter's or even the Empire State Building are by definition inferior to your neighborhood WalMart.
No, it didn't "necessitate" tearing it down. It damaged it but the main thing was that the structure was too similar to the "Cypress Structure" in Oakland that collapsed. It could have been repaired, probably for less money than the cost of tearing it down and building the surface roadway, but most people had wanted it gone for years and saw the post-quake situation as an opportunity.

Incidentally, the other freeway under the same circumstance, the Central Freeway, underwent 4 votes as to whether to tear down or fix up. As a vital link to the western neighborhoods, the first couple of times people voted to repair it but the "tear down" crowd wouldn't give up and finally won. It was replaced also by a surface roadway now called the Octavia Boulevard:


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Old December 1st, 2013, 10:49 PM   #9305
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The Embarcadero blocked San Francisco's downtown from the waterfront. There was a major desire to remove it. I-375 forms a defense between Detroit's relatively safe downtown and some rather unsafe ghettos just to the East of it.
By the way, the old elevated Central Freeway (see above) in San Francisco performed a similar function: It was a barrier between Civic Center and the city government district and the Western Addition/Hayes Valley, one of the city's 2 remaining African-American neighborhoods. Black hookers used to hang out under the freeway for protection from the rain and sell their "wares". West of the structure was a string of small A-A businesses including one of the best fried chicken joints on the West Coast.

After the freeway came down, gentrification has gone wild. The chicken place moved (it's still in business) and Hayes Street got lined with high end boutiques and yuppie eateries. It is now one of the trendiest neighborhoods in what some consider one of America's trendiest cities.
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Old December 1st, 2013, 11:11 PM   #9306
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I love this stretch of expressway, I-75 through metro Detroit.

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Old December 1st, 2013, 11:21 PM   #9307
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Didn't they build a new tunnel below and then tear down old I-95 elevated freeway in Boston more than 10 years ago?
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 12:11 AM   #9308
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Not quite, it was I-93, (95 bypasses Boston) Not only that but they extended I-90 to the airport across the harbor. Another notable point was that the Embarcadero and Seattle's Alaskan Way are on seawalls, the tunnel in Boston was built through landfill of the harbor from all sorts of time periods.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 01:20 AM   #9309
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And there was a lot of controversy (I'm talking about Boston) about cost - far more than budgeted I believe - and at least one person killed by a tile falling from the roof of the new tunnel.
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I heard about this casualty. When I was in Boston in 2003 the tunnel was all new and shiny.

For San Francisco, it is obvious that the recent Embarcadero is an appropriate solution after 1991 earthquake, from an architect's point of view. In San Francisco I bought a book about the subculture in the Sixties, which was grown on movements against finishing the Embarcadero, Central and Presidio freeways. The two most popular rock bands from San Francisco, Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane were a product of those events.
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Old December 2nd, 2013, 07:01 AM   #9311
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In San Francisco I bought a book about the subculture in the Sixties, which was grown on movements against finishing the Embarcadero, Central and Presidio freeways. The two most popular rock bands from San Francisco, Grateful Dead and Jefferson Airplane were a product of those events.
I used to work with a nurse who hung with the Airplane at their famous house on Fulton St. in the day:


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Old December 10th, 2013, 01:31 PM   #9312
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I-405 Orange County, CA

OCTA Board Selects One Lane in Each Direction for I-405

The Orange County Transportation Authority board voted today to construct one general-purpose lane in each direction between Costa Mesa and the county line in Seal Beach as part of the I-405 Improvement Project.

The board’s vote means that high-occupancy toll (HOT) lanes will not be a part of the I-405 project, which is being funded through Measure M, the half-cent sales tax for transportation improvements.

The vote will allow the benefits of the project to be delivered more quickly to drivers. Caltrans has the final decision on the project alternative and that could come as early as the end of the month.

The final environmental studies are expected to be completed in summer 2014 with construction anticipated to occur from 2015 to 2020.

The I-405 is the busiest stretch of freeway in the country, carrying more than 370,000 cars a day near the county line. Traffic is expected to increase approximately 35 percent by 2040.
Press release: http://www.octa.net/News/About/OCTA-...ion-for-I-405/

Project website: http://www.octa.net/Freeways-and-Str...ject/Overview/
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Old December 10th, 2013, 09:17 PM   #9313
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I-295, Jacksonville, FL

Interstate 295, the beltway of Jacksonville, will get express lanes.

The first project includes one express lane each way along the southern side of Jacksonville, from I-95 to the Buckman Bridge. The number of lanes will be expanded from six to eight. Construction will likely begin in Q2 2014 and be completed sometime 2016.

Express lanes are also planned along the eastern side of Jacksonville, from SR-202 down to SR-9B (future I-795).

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Old December 12th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #9314
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I-10 San Bernardino County, CA

There is a study to upgrade I-10 in San Bernardino County, from near the LA/SB county line to Redlands (35 miles).

Project website: http://www.i10corridorproject.org

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The HOV Alternative includes extending an existing HOV lane that would allow access to vehicles with multiple passengers. Improvements for this alternative would begin from where the existing HOV lanes end approximately 0.2-mile west of Haven Avenue in the City of Ontario to Ford Street in the City of Redlands, a distance of approximately 25 miles. The main features of this alternative include widening of the I-10 corridor through the addition of a HOV lane modified in each direction, auxiliary lanes, and inside and outside shoulders, as shown above. This alternative would also upgrade standards of roadway features. Within the project area, approximately 57 existing bridges and 102 ramp facilities would need to be modified and additional right-of-way would be required.

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The Express Lanes Alternative would add two Express Lanes, also known as high occupancy toll (HOT) lanes. Express Lanes allow vehicles carrying multiple passengers to access the lanes and other vehicles, including single passenger vehicles to access the lane by paying a toll. This alternative would begin from approximately 2 miles west of the San Bernardino/Los Angeles County line, in the City of Pomona and end at Ford Street in the City of Redlands, a total distance of approximately 35 miles. Restriping of the existing HOV lanes into transitional lanes for the Express Lanes would begin in Los Angeles County near Garey Avenue and continue east for approximately 2 miles. At the Los Angeles/San Bernardino County line, an Express lane would be added in each direction from the Los Angeles/San Bernardino County line to 0.2 miles west of Haven Avenue. The existing HOV lane and the new Express lane would be managed jointly as an Express facility with two lanes in each direction. Two Express Lanes in each direction would be added from 0.2 miles west of Haven Avenue to the I-10/ SR-210 interchange. From SR-210 to Ford Street, a single express lane would be added in each direction. The Express Lanes Alternative would require modifications of approximately 81 bridge structures and 140 ramp facilities. This alternative would require additional right-of-way.

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Old December 13th, 2013, 12:46 AM   #9315
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Old December 13th, 2013, 06:49 AM   #9316
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North Carolina Gets a New Interstate, with the I-495 Designation near Raleigh

RALEIGH — Governor Pat McCrory and Transportation Secretary Tony Tata announced today that U.S. 64 between I-440 and I-95 near Rocky Mount has been added to the interstate highway system. The section between I-440 and I-540 on the east side of Raleigh will have the I-495 designation, while the stretch of U.S. 64 between I-540 and I-95 will be designated Future I-495.

“This designation is critical to further economic development in the region,” Governor McCrory told Regional Transportation Alliance (RTA) members. “We can now tell businesses who want to locate to the area that they will have a future interstate connection to the vital I-95 corridor.”

Governor McCrory and Secretary Tata made the announcement at the RTA’s 12th Annual Meeting in Cary. The RTA presented an award to Governor McCrory, Secretary Tata, Senate President Pro Tempore Phil Berger and Speaker of the House Thom Tillis for their bipartisan work on transportation, particularly the passage of the Strategic Transportation Investments Act into law. Representative William Brawley of Mecklenburg accepted the award on behalf of Speaker Tillis.

The I-495 designation has received support from the RTA and has been endorsed by several municipalities along the route.

“This designation is an important part of our future vision for transportation in North Carolina and is key to promoting job creation and aligning our infrastructure with commerce activity,” Secretary Tata said.

The section of U.S. 64 between I-440 and I-540 currently meets interstate standards and will be signed as I-495. The remaining stretch between I-540 and I-95 will be signed as Future I-495 until NCDOT widens the inside and outside shoulders to meet interstate standards. This work will be done as part of future reconstruction activities along the route. This is the normal process when an existing highway is upgraded to interstate status.

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Old December 13th, 2013, 04:02 PM   #9317
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[curmudgeon mode on] Oh, who can keep track any more! It's getting to be as bad as area codes. (Which I used to know all off. Because I'm weird that way.) [curmudgeon mode off]

North Carolina does have way more than its share of newly numbered, unfinished and hypothetical Interstates....
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This one actually makes sense, as a connection between I-95 and the state capital, Raleigh, which also happens to be one of the fastest growing metro areas in the U.S.

I don't think an I-number would suddenly accelerate economic growth though.
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I agree with you on both points, really, but it would be nice if the states would all behave more or less the same way (other things such as rapid growth being equal) on what is, after all, a national system. Whatever criteria are being used to decide "hey, this spiffy new freeway deserves an Interstate number!" ought to be applied across the country.
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Yes, I-14 for the US 190 freeway between Killeen and Temple in Texas is just a bad idea. Not every freeway needs to be an Interstate Highway.
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