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Old January 31st, 2014, 05:40 PM   #9421
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Old January 31st, 2014, 05:43 PM   #9422
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The main problem was the huge amount of trucks being stuck. A car can turn around, a truck cannot. You usually see one truck getting stuck, another one bypassing it on the next lane, also getting stuck, and this repeats itself until all lanes are blocked and traffic is going nowhere. Some freeways were blocked for nearly 30 hours.
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Old January 31st, 2014, 06:23 PM   #9423
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The main problem was the huge amount of trucks being stuck. A car can turn around, a truck cannot. You usually see one truck getting stuck, another one bypassing it on the next lane, also getting stuck, and this repeats itself until all lanes are blocked and traffic is going nowhere. Some freeways were blocked for nearly 30 hours
And I will clarify the truck getting stuck point as I drive one for work; A couple times I have been hauling heavy loads to the max (75,000-80,000 lb) loads going up an icy hill between Madison and Janesville, WI in the right lane, 5 degreesF, at dawn and the drive axles started losing traction. I and everyone else barely made it over the hill between 5 and 15mph.

More recently in Indiana after winter storm ION I had an EMPTY trailer driving on completely iced I-69 northeast of Indianapolis I was approaching a simple, basic overpass(I-69 going over a secondary road) and began losing traction. I got slowed down to 5mph and was only able to idle off in that speed as any speed higher would have been to fast and would have spun the tires. Now, Atlanta is very hilly, and stuck trucks means dead stopped in the lane (no accident/incident/damage vehicle) just stopped. (there probably were accidents in many spots that stopped traffic AS WELL).

Oh and if/when I would try to accelerate on ice, the vehicle would start to jackknife.
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Old February 1st, 2014, 12:58 AM   #9424
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1) I've heard (from the guy who manages the building I work in) that salt is ineffective if it's too cold (below 20F, about -7C). It was that cold in Atlanta that day.
It works colder, I would say, about -20 *C to have real issues on the road, but of course, you need to lay enough salt down and with a mix of the calcium type instead of sodium. At those -20 *C temperatures it is usually nice and sunny but cars crashing all over the place

Next to my office there is a parclo interchange where the minor road goes under the freeway. I always get stuck at the light to cross as the slope is too steep, spin spin spin
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Old February 1st, 2014, 06:36 PM   #9425
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It works colder, I would say, about -20 *C to have real issues on the road, but of course, you need to lay enough salt down and with a mix of the calcium type instead of sodium. At those -20 *C temperatures it is usually nice and sunny but cars crashing all over the place

Next to my office there is a parclo interchange where the minor road goes under the freeway. I always get stuck at the light to cross as the slope is too steep, spin spin spin
Ah. My office manager was talking about the sidewalks.
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Old February 4th, 2014, 08:22 PM   #9426
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Old February 6th, 2014, 10:07 PM   #9427
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I-70 New Mississippi Bridge, St. Louis

Just a couple of days from opening! It will open Sunday.

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I-95 George Washington Bridge

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Old February 8th, 2014, 10:56 PM   #9429
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Old February 9th, 2014, 02:05 PM   #9430
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Old February 9th, 2014, 07:54 PM   #9431
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I-70 Stan Musial Veterans Memorial Bridge

The Stan Musial Veterans Memorial Bridge opens to traffic today in St. Louis

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Old I-70 into downtown. This should be renumbered to I-44.
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The full name. Well the actual full name would be Stanisław Franciszek Musiał Veterans Memorial Bridge.
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The bridge itself. It was originally planned as an 8-lane facility but later scaled back to 4 lanes due to cost. I doubt if it needs more than 4 lanes for the time being.
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Old February 9th, 2014, 09:09 PM   #9432
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The Stan Musial Veterans Memorial Bridge in St. Louis opens to traffic today. It includes a 3 mile new alignment of Interstate 70 in Missouri and Illinois. It also changes the Interstate numbering around downtown St. Louis. The new bridge cost $ 229 million and is ahead of schedule and on budget. The entire project cost is $ 700 million.
You don't hear that too often related to expensive infrastructure projects.
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Old February 10th, 2014, 05:21 PM   #9433
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Old February 10th, 2014, 05:39 PM   #9434
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"Stan Span"? Is that what they're calling it?

By the way - highway-related pet peeve of the moment: in this ongoing political scandal involving the closing of access lanes from the local streets of Fort Lee, N.J., to the George Washington Bridge media types and politicians keep referring to the bridge being shut down. Saying things like "how could [the Governor] not have noticed the busiest bridge in the world being shut down?!"
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Old I-70 into downtown. This should be renumbered to I-44.
Which creates a 44/55 multiplex.
Although they could have called the cut-off piece of old 70 something more interesting like I-870....
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Well, oddly for them, IL didn't want to bring I-44 into their state (likewise I-43, maybe my assumption that they want as many 2dis as possible comes from their wanting I-66, and their happily going along with I-43), so MO might as well use it to mop up I-70's leftovers. (it will become I-44 - that's all been approved).

Does have the odd situation that eastbound I-44 becomes westbound I-70, with no access to eastbound I-70.

Looking on OSM, the bridge is done and open, but the links aren't quite done, especially on the Illinois side.
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Well, if Illinois did bring I-44 in, where would it go? The old 55/64/70 bridge will still have two Interstate numbers and 70 still passes through the East St. Louis area; I can't think of a corridor running northeast or east from there that needs an Interstate.
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I-44 east seamlessly becomes I-70 west. How often does that occur? Also, how many two-digit same number concurrencies are there?
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"Two-digit same number concurrencies" meaning, say 66 and 99 or 11 and 33?

Can't think of any.

The other question, I'll need to think about a bit. (If you count three-digit routes, it may happen not far from there, where 55, 255 and 270 meet south of Saint Louis. Does 255 south become 270 north, and vice-versa, or is that bit of 255 marked as east/west?)
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