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Old August 15th, 2007, 01:24 AM   #1001
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are these roads coast money? or there are free parkways?
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Old August 15th, 2007, 03:02 AM   #1002
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Parkways aren't just old and in the northeast. There's the Ronald Reagan Parkway in Gwinnett County, GA, completed in 1994 IIRC. It's the real thing, too: no trucks, no route number, no commercial rezonings (Gwinnett is infamous for uncontrolled development, but they held the line in this case). It was open to pedestrians and cyclists a until a cyclist was struck and killed by a motorist within days of its opening. The whole thing is closed one day a year for "Run the Reagan," a footrace- fun run event.

I'm too lazy to do a proper post, but here's a webpage about it: http://www.southeastroads.com/ronald...n_parkway.html.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 07:06 AM   #1003
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What about the Super Highway they're trying to build in Texas - called the Trans Texas Corridor, or something?!
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Old August 15th, 2007, 09:40 AM   #1004
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What about the Super Highway they're trying to build in Texas - called the Trans Texas Corridor, or something?!
o dont worry that bad boy is going to get built...unfortunatly it will have to run through some nice TEXAS farm land...but the mosnter will live..

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Old August 15th, 2007, 11:24 AM   #1005
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are these roads coast money? or there are free parkways?
Most are free. The Garden State Parkway is a toll road. The Merritt Pkwy used to be a toll road but they took down the old toll houses many years ago.
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Old August 15th, 2007, 03:28 PM   #1006
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NY Times on Clearview Highway Font

....What I saw, Pietrucha knew, was what we all may see soon enough as we rush along America’s 46,871 miles of Interstate highways. What I saw was Clearview, the typeface that is poised to replace Highway Gothic, the standard that has been used on signs across the country for more than a half-century. Looking at a sign in Clearview after reading one in Highway Gothic is like putting on a new pair of reading glasses: there’s a sudden lightness, a noticeable crispness to the letters.

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Old August 15th, 2007, 03:58 PM   #1007
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I like Clearview. Although Interstate is a good font too, a lot of countries use it (we do that too on motorways).
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Old August 16th, 2007, 05:19 AM   #1008
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Highway Gothic is awesome, and what I really miss are those off-green Overhead Signs from back in the 80s. I already have a problem with Clearview being used in Georgia and I don't want it to spread to the rest of the country.

Besides, we have Australia, Taiwan, New Zealand, and Brazil doing just fine with Highway Gothic as well as Canada. South Africa does a mix of Highway Gothic and German signage fonts(it's not Clearview what they use in Europe and elsewhere) and they mix the signs with some on blue and some on green. Pretty cool.

EDIT: And while we're at it, lets talk about states neutering their interstate shields. Is it that unreasonable to include the state within the shield anymore? And what about those rounded edge Overhead Signs? New York, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Puerto Rico; I'm looking at all of you. Oh and don't think you're off the hook the rest of you states. Can't we get some DOTs that get the damn projects done? I look at GDOT, TNDOT, ADOT, and TXDOT among others and see the progress they can make on roads. Then you have lazy DOTs like Alabama, Ohio, and Arkansas(yeah they're getting there, but show me a built I-69 and I-49 between Texarkana and Fort Smith and I'll start listening).

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Old August 16th, 2007, 12:50 PM   #1009
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Highway Gothic is awesome, and what I really miss are those off-green Overhead Signs from back in the 80s. I already have a problem with Clearview being used in Georgia and I don't want it to spread to the rest of the country.
I'm pretty sure that's not Clearview that Georgia uses, I believe it's a different version of the normal Highway Gothic used most other places in the US.
I *DO* think Clearview is better in that it provides information to the motorists earlier than does the older font- for that reason the switch should be made- there's no reason not to improve signage just for sentimental reasons.
And while we're at it, we should do a better job at using more pictograms on our signs and fewer "words".
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Old August 16th, 2007, 02:10 PM   #1010
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Interesting.
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Old August 16th, 2007, 02:48 PM   #1011
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what I really miss are those off-green Overhead Signs from back in the 80s.
Which signs do you mean?

I think Clearview is great (but DIN 1451 is still my personal number one font )! Of course, Highway Gothic has its own charme, due to the everyday usage for a very long time.
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Old August 16th, 2007, 03:19 PM   #1012
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I'm pretty sure that's not Clearview that Georgia uses, I believe it's a different version of the normal Highway Gothic used most other places in the US.
I *DO* think Clearview is better in that it provides information to the motorists earlier than does the older font- for that reason the switch should be made- there's no reason not to improve signage just for sentimental reasons.
And while we're at it, we should do a better job at using more pictograms on our signs and fewer "words".
Read this:

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/langu...es/003685.html
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Old August 16th, 2007, 03:23 PM   #1013
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Which signs do you mean?

I think Clearview is great (but DIN 1451 is still my personal number one font )! Of course, Highway Gothic has its own charme, due to the everyday usage for a very long time.
Signs that look like this:



Without the gratings on the sign of course.
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Old August 16th, 2007, 04:25 PM   #1014
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I've seen some of those dotless i's in Georgia, but I'm telling you, that ain't clearview
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Old August 16th, 2007, 04:43 PM   #1015
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I've seen some of those dotless i's in Georgia, but I'm telling you, that ain't clearview
Well it ain't Highway Gothic, that's for damn sure. It's also not DIN 1451 either.

Let's compare shall we?

Highway Gothic(I-65 northbound in Birmingham, AL):


Clearview(I-80 westbound at I-380 in NE Pennsylvania):


DIN 1451(A31 in Germany):


Georgia Signage(I-75 just north of I-285 in Marietta):
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Old August 16th, 2007, 05:31 PM   #1016
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I think that IS Highway Gothic, but a different series.

Look at the Wikipedia page on the font...looks like GA uses series C, as opposed to E

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FHWA_Series_fonts

If you look at the letter 'g' in your last picture in 'Chattanooga' it has the highway gothic "short tail".
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Old August 17th, 2007, 10:28 AM   #1017
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anyone have any shots of the ct15? those art deco bridges are sweet!
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Old August 17th, 2007, 10:32 AM   #1018
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I278 NY

Why is it an interstate highway? That road is seriously a joke.... it’s a mess it’s like the equivalent of the FDR if not worst. It doesn't even connect to its parent route!
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Old August 17th, 2007, 03:24 PM   #1019
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Please correct me if I am wrong, but from what I am aware of about it, the DVP would almost certainly be a full interstate if the Toronto area was in the USA. IIRC, it is a normally designed '400-series' freeway that happens to pass through a large park in central Toronto.

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From what I understand, that is correct.
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By the way, what does IIRC mean?
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