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Old January 21st, 2015, 09:59 PM   #10201
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Which Turnpike? And you have to get to it.

From Center City Philadelphia* to get to the (New Jersey) Turnpike without a traffic light, you have to start out heading for Atlantic City, then use 295 north to 195 east to the Turnpike.

To get to the Pennsylvania Turnpike, you'd have to go about 15 miles out the Schuylkill to I-476 north.

All because of the missing connection between the Pennsylvania Turnpike and I-95 (and ultimately because of the gap in 95 through central New Jersey, where local opposition stopped it). Or if you prefer, because of the missing connection between NJ 42 and the New Jersey Turnpike.

*That's what we call downtown.

PS: What lights on 78...at the Holland Tunnel approach (which is Jersey City, not Newark)? That's no problem; just take the Lincoln.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 02:13 AM   #10202
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I always thought it was sort of stupid that there were no real plans to construct interchanges at several key junctions on the Pennsylvania Turnpike (notably between the PA Turnpike and I-99 in Bedford, I-70 in Breezewood, I-81 in Carlise, and I-95) forcing drivers to use local roadways to connect between two interstates, which in turn causes unneeded traffic congestion.

Only until recently has there been a relatively strong effort to construct a grade separated interchange at the PA Turnpike/I-95. Even other toll roads that were built roughly around the same time such as the New York Thruway, Ohio Turnpike, Maine Turnpike, Massachusetts Turnpike, New Jersey Turnpike had the foresight to build interchanges with other interstates to make connections more seemless.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 02:45 AM   #10203
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The New Jersey Turnpike does not have an interchange with NJ 42 (which becomes I-76 a couple of miles north of the Turnpike at 295). For that matter, its connector to the Pennsylvania Turnpike is missing an interchange with 295.

The Ohio Turnpike does not have an interchange with 271. And it didn't have interchanges with 75 until 1991 and with 77 until 2001.

Massachusetts Turnpike has no interchange with 391.

I don't know what interstates the Maine Turnpike crosses that weren't expressly built to connect to it, if that make sense.

In any case, if the toll roads were built before the Interstates were even conceived of (the segment of the Pennsylvania Turnpike that crosses 99, 70 at Breezewood and 81 was opened in 1940), are the missing interchanges a matter of lack of foresight on their part?
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 05:24 AM   #10204
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But most of these are just stupid - there are grade separations but not ramps, which is just inexcusable (the problem is obvious to any planner or guy working on the construction)
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 07:52 AM   #10205
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Supposedly the New Jersey Turnpike/42 connection isn't doable. Wetlands or something.
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 05:27 PM   #10206
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How come the entire New Jersey Turnpike isn't I-95?
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 06:12 PM   #10207
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Because 95 goes through Philadelphia. It was supposed to continue up through the middle of New Jersey to 287 and get onto the Turnpike in Edison. It's not our fault local opposition up there stopped it. :-)
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Old January 23rd, 2015, 10:45 PM   #10208
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Because 95 goes through Philadelphia. It was supposed to continue up through the middle of New Jersey to 287 and get onto the Turnpike in Edison. It's not our fault local opposition up there stopped it. :-)
Okay, thanks for the information.
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Old January 26th, 2015, 11:20 PM   #10209
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It's also kinda silly that, from the Delaware Memorial Bridge, going north on either I-295 or the NJ Turnpike, there's no direct connection to go EAST down the AC expressway to Atlantic City. You can loop around, go west towards Philly and make about 7 left turns to get headed east again, but one would think a simple ramp from NB to EB would be pretty simple to do...instead, everybody takes Route 40, which is a killer road, two lanes, full of cows and tractors and semis going 70mph. Dumb.
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Old January 26th, 2015, 11:30 PM   #10210
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OT, but how are you enjoying the "blizzard"?

(Yes, I know it wasn't supposed to be a blizzard here, but neither were we supposed to have no accumulation yet as of 4:30 p.m. )
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Old January 26th, 2015, 11:33 PM   #10211
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I heard accumulation predicted this morning.
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Old January 26th, 2015, 11:38 PM   #10212
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We (Philadelphia, downtown) were supposed to have four inches or more by now, depending which forecast was right.

We've got nothing, at least what I can see out of my window. Just a little dusting on sidewalks in the parts where no one walks.

Now, that works for me because I've got a couple of things to do on the way home, but I was looking forward to staying home tomorrow. :-)
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Old January 27th, 2015, 02:53 AM   #10213
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Old January 27th, 2015, 03:02 AM   #10214
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Not an Interstate.

But no more off-topic than snowstorms.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 08:49 PM   #10215
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Our interstates here in Salem County did not get any appreciable snow. In fact, in some places, the salt is thicker than the snow.
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Not an Interstate.

But no more off-topic than snowstorms.
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Old January 27th, 2015, 09:07 PM   #10217
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Our interstates here in Salem County did not get any appreciable snow. In fact, in some places, the salt is thicker than the snow.
Good attempt to get back on topic, but since when does Salem County have Interstates, plural?
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Old January 27th, 2015, 10:47 PM   #10218
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Old January 27th, 2015, 11:25 PM   #10219
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Good attempt to get back on topic, but since when does Salem County have Interstates, plural?
Well, does the NJTP count? If not, then we're screwed.
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Old January 28th, 2015, 09:51 PM   #10220
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