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Old February 19th, 2015, 02:40 AM   #10341
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Are there Welcome Centers in New England, where states are small and easily traveled across?
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Old February 19th, 2015, 02:49 AM   #10342
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Connecticut has 'em; the Northern New England states that live on tourism certainly have 'em; in Massachusetts, they seem to be run by local tourism promotion boards rather than the state; there was one in Rhode Island in 2011 that I think I read might have shut down since. Between the Internet and state finances, state employees giving away free paper tourist information may be getting harder to justify. (That's not my personal opinion.) A few years back you'd see about hours being cut and so on; I believe there's at least one state that no longer publishes an official road map (which is welcome centers' most popular product, probably)....
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Old February 19th, 2015, 04:09 AM   #10343
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Are there Welcome Centers in New England, where states are small and easily traveled across?
In a word - YES

The ones in New Hampshire sell booze
I love New Hampshire.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 05:16 AM   #10344
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New Hampshire has state liquor stores. Like Pennsylvania. In Pennsylvania, the sale of anything stronger than beer has been a monopoly of a government agency called the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board since Prohibition was repealed. Our little moment of nanny-state socialism. (Personally, I think it's ridiculous.) But I digress.

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New Hampshire has them at its turnpike service areas. (I stopped at one service area on my New England trip last October.) I honestly don't think setting up a government-owned liquor store at a highway service area sends quite the right message....
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Old February 19th, 2015, 05:55 AM   #10345
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^Ontario is even worse. Government controlled liquor store (literally called the Liquor Control Board of Ontario, or LCBO), and a privately run government sanctioned monopoly that manages the majority of beer sales, under the brand of "The Beer Store".
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Old February 19th, 2015, 06:04 AM   #10346
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The Beer Store is really bad. Bad selection and absurdly bad customer service, like in Communism country. But in Communism the beer was cheap! Beer store is multiple times more expensive than normal store selling beer in a normal country let alone communistic one. I don't even understand how that can exist...
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Old February 19th, 2015, 03:03 PM   #10347
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Reading through the forums I was under the impression that everything in Canada was uber cool, trendy and miles ahead of everywhere (with the exception of Denmark)....now I read this
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Old February 19th, 2015, 08:55 PM   #10348
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I've hardly ever seen a weigh station that was actually operating, though....
You should head out here to California where weigh stations are in constant operation. If I'm not mistaken, the weigh stations on I-80 west of Fairfield are in operation 24/7. In fact Caltrans just finished rebuilding the eastbound weigh station. Aerial photos of the project can be found at http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist4/photogra...ges/13_10920d/ and ground photos can be found at http://www.dot.ca.gov/dist4/photogra...ges/13_10907d/. When these weigh stations are operating *all* trucks (everything from 18-wheelers all the way down to U-Hauls) must stop at the scales.

I should add that California does have a system in place where certain trucks can bypass the weigh station if given a "Bypass Signal".
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Old February 19th, 2015, 09:02 PM   #10349
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I should add that California does have a system in place where certain trucks can bypass the weigh station if given a "Bypass Signal".
I've seen those frequently in Trucker Josh's vlogs (he drives both the U.S. and Canada all the time). He doesn't go to California though.
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Old February 19th, 2015, 11:00 PM   #10350
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Re: Welcome Centers - yes, you do find them on MANY but not all Interstates in the proximity of state borders, but they are usually not much more than places to get tourist brochures, maps, and, rarely, a bit of sustenance. I don't remember ever seeing a State Welcome Center with things like gas or diesel fuel, overnight stopping, etc. Some might have RV dumps but that's about it. There's one just north of me on I-295 but it's closed on Mondays and Tuesdays. It offers maps and a drinking fountain. The "Rest Stops" on the NJ Turnpike are full-service deals, but again, it's not a "free" interstate. When we drove cross country back in 2012, I tried to make it a point to stop at every state Welcome Cernter to pick up post cards or whatnot for our granddaughter. I was successful in West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Iowa, Nebraska, Wyoming, and Utah. Coming east on I-70, the one in Kansas was closed (6pm on a Summer evening...), didn't see one in Missouri, and Kentucky was closed too. Here are some representative shots (all are my photos)

West Virginia, I-68 westbound:


Indiana, I-70 Westbound:


Wyoming, I-80 WB, Rock Springs. This was quite a place.


Kansas, I-70 EB, closed for the night:


Kentucky, also shuttered by 6PM :


Pennsylvania has a nice new one on US 15, soon to be I-99, north of Williamsport:
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Old February 19th, 2015, 11:10 PM   #10351
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That Colorado/Kansas border, though, is in a weird place if you think about it. Another county or two to the east, you cross into the Central Time Zone, so 6 p.m. is sort of 7. (I mean if you have to be at a certain point beyond the time zone boundary by a certain time.)

In October 2011, I did a road trip to Chicago and southern Wisconsin. Driving back on a Tuesday afternoon, Michigan's welcome center at the Indiana border on 94 (I drove through Michigan even though it was a bit out of the way just for something different than 80/90, which I'd used the other way) was closed. At about 4:00 Eastern. Could have been closed all day on a Tuesday for all I know, but that's another place where the time factor would be relevant. The welcome center itself is on Eastern Time but since the state line is the time zone boundary as well, literally everyone reaching the welcome center will have just been on Central.
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^ Interesting point, PW - I just remember it being windy as all get out all the way across I-70 from Denver to St Louis. And hotter than the blazes, but it was July 3 & 4th...
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Old February 20th, 2015, 01:20 AM   #10353
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Anything related to alcoholic beverages in Canada is stupid, insane and unacceptable

Otherwise Canada is pretty nice
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Old February 20th, 2015, 02:36 AM   #10354
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Hahaha, in Poland first thing you see when entering a service/fuel station on A2 or anywhere else is large pallets of discount beers sold in dozens and cheap, entire shelves full of vodkas, whiskeys, strong alcohols just behind the cash register. You should consider returning back to Poland .

By the way, are beers and alcohols sold on Interstates in all States?
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Old February 20th, 2015, 02:40 AM   #10355
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Yes I love the Polish attitude, it is correct

You can buy beer and wine in most gas stations in Quebec, Canada also, and some other provinces, but the prices are high (compared to PL)
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I am gently surprised that with so easily available alcohol 24h/7 in Poland - everywhere in Warsaw and in other towns, almost each corner, fuel stations and "alkohole 24h" shops, it is easier to buy alcoholic beverage than a sandwich or food - there are no hills of drunken people lying on the streets, as well that rate of accidents involving drunken driving is quite low (lower in fact than in many Western "more restrictive" countries) .

And even in the USA it is not as easy and cheap than in Poland.

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By the way, are beers and alcohols sold on Interstates in all States?
Remember that toll-free Interstates (with some exceptions like the Connecticut Turnpike, which used to be a toll road, and a portion of 95 in Delaware and Maryland, which is technically a toll road but where the tolls are easy to avoid....) don't have businesses at service areas, just vending machines at rest areas. The nearest you can get to buying anything "on Interstates" in, say, Georgia, is at the businesses at exits. Where you'll find the same sort of thing you could find farther off the road.

The vending machines at rest areas...well, I imagine selling alcohol from vending machines is illegal (since there's no opportunity to check that the buyer is of drinking age).

Businesses at service areas on toll roads and so on...well, we're talking convenience stores, fast food places...they'll sell more or less what they would at other locations in that state. I'd guess you could buy a six-pack of beer at a 7-Eleven in an Illinois Tollway oasis, for example. You won't be able to buy
anything stronger than beer at any service area on the Pennsylvania Turnpike unless the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board decides to open a "state store" there.

The actual liquor stores like New Hampshire has at its service areas are such an oddity to the rest of the country that you can find pictures of them on the Internet:

http://www.esperdy.net/wp-content/up...Store-Sign.jpg
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I am gently surprised that with so easily available alcohol 24h/7 in Poland - everywhere in Warsaw and in other towns, almost each corner, fuel stations and "alkohole 24h" shops, it is easier to buy alcoholic beverage than a sandwich or food - there are no hills of drunken people lying on the streets, as well that rate of accidents involving drunken driving is quite low (lower in fact than in many Western "more restrictive" countries) .

And even in the USA it is not as easy and cheap than in Poland.
Because... Poland is full of Poles

but then again so is Canada and the USA
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I never found getting off the interstate to grab lunch to never be much of an issue, most interstates are well serviced at exits. You don't need a rest station if every 3rd exit has multiple hotels and a large fast food selection.

Canada's liquor control is an odd relic in an otherwise fairly progressive country, but there has been lots of discussion in the last few months of changing the setup. Rumour has it that the Beer Store may soon be disbanded and beer (not heavy liquor) be allowed to be sold at corner stores.
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Are "beer stores" and government liquor stores only in Ontario?

(And as I ask the question, it comes back to me that Quebec has the SAQ...)
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