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Old February 13th, 2016, 10:04 PM   #11321
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Progress on Tappan Zee bridge construction, upstate NY:
People upstate consider this to be downstate.
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Old February 13th, 2016, 10:11 PM   #11322
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Where would you put the divide between Downstate and Upstate New York? Somewhere near Poughkeepsie? I-84? An imagerinary line that extends the northern border of Pennsylvania to the northern border of Connecticut?
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Old February 13th, 2016, 10:22 PM   #11323
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Honestly I would put it right there at the Tappan Zee and 287...
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Old February 13th, 2016, 10:24 PM   #11324
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I-90/94 Chicago, IL

A northbound view over I-90/94 near downtown Chicago. You can see the I-290 interchange under reconstruction and the high exit density towards the Chicago Loop. The exit numbering goes up to 52H.

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Old February 14th, 2016, 12:16 AM   #11325
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Where would you put the divide between Downstate and Upstate New York? Somewhere near Poughkeepsie? I-84? An imagerinary line that extends the northern border of Pennsylvania to the northern border of Connecticut?
Anything North of the Lower Hudson Valley is considered Upstate New York. So Orange , Putnam , Westchester , Dutchess , Rockland , Sullivan & Ulster counties are considered downstate along with being part of the NYC metro...
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Old February 14th, 2016, 01:47 AM   #11326
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For New Yorkers living in New York City pretty everything above north border of Bronx is upstate. Only Long Island is real downstate.
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Old February 14th, 2016, 03:08 AM   #11327
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Where would you put the divide between Downstate and Upstate New York? Somewhere near Poughkeepsie? I-84? An imagerinary line that extends the northern border of Pennsylvania to the northern border of Connecticut?
Having lived upstate all my life I'd put it at around Newburgh or Poughkeepsie, yes. It could also be where MTA's influence ends, which is Poughkeepsie. Some others put it at I-84, and others in areas like Utica and points north consider the Adirondacks "Upstate," but in a political sense, "downstate" is what I mentioned earlier.
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Old February 14th, 2016, 03:10 AM   #11328
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A northbound view over I-90/94 near downtown Chicago. You can see the I-290 interchange under reconstruction and the high exit density towards the Chicago Loop. The exit numbering goes up to 52H.

That's one crazy interchange. I remember being in a tour bus a couple years ago going through it. I thought that was called the Chicago Loop.
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Old February 14th, 2016, 06:47 AM   #11329
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I-5 in Mission Viejo, CA


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A freeway widening project for this section is currently undergoing environmental review. It will:
1) Add one general purpose lane in both directions (between Avery Parkway and Alicia Parkway)
2) Extend the second carpool lane in each direction (between Alicia Parkway and El Toro Road)
3) Reconstruct some interchanges
4) Construct new or reestablish auxiliary lanes
5) Convert buffer separated carpool lanes to continuous access
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Old February 14th, 2016, 10:36 AM   #11330
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That stretch has unbelievable traffic counts, especially for a freeway so far on the edge of a metropolitan area, it's over 40 miles to downtown Los Angeles. If you head south it's only 12 miles until you hit the county line and suburban developments ends. Yet this stretch carries between 250,000 and 350,000 vehicles per day, even with peaks up to 390,000 vehicles per day approaching the I-405 interchange.
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Old February 14th, 2016, 01:10 PM   #11331
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Is a carpool lane the same as a HOV lane?
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old February 14th, 2016, 01:19 PM   #11332
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Pretty much. HOV stands for 'High Occupancy Vehicle'. Which also includes vanpools and buses.

HOV lanes are very uncommon on European motorways. Very few facilities exist, and they are often only for buses or taxis.
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Old February 14th, 2016, 01:27 PM   #11333
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Los Angeles HOV system

I made this map a while ago showing freeways with HOV lanes in red (it also includes some HOT lanes). As you can see the majority of the urban freeways have HOV lanes.

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Old February 14th, 2016, 02:38 PM   #11334
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I like how the CA 14 (former US 6, IMO they should have retained it all the way to Santa Clarita and truncated US 395 to Bishop instead) HOV lanes go on to cross a plate boundary, a true border crossing. But that belongs to the other thread as it is not an interstate.

Indeed, HOV lanes are unknown in Europe because of a thing which in turn is unknown in the USA: Public Transport[ation] . The only HOV lanes I know in this side of the pond are on Spanish A-6 Northwest of Madrid.
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Old February 14th, 2016, 09:18 PM   #11335
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I made this map a while ago showing freeways with HOV lanes in red (it also includes some HOT lanes). As you can see the majority of the urban freeways have HOV lanes.

at one point California had almost half of the HOV lanes in the USA
I tried to find an updated list with all the metropolitan areas but I don't think there is one.

I know in Phoenix every freeway in the metro area have HOV lanes, but it is not the same case in other metro areas, where only one or a few freeways have HOV lanes
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Old February 14th, 2016, 09:39 PM   #11336
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we strive to be more like Vancouver, which has a sensible transit network (despite recent failings of the administration, it still works) and elected to not build freeways and doesn't have massive traffic jams in the way that we do.
Actually, Vancouver has the 2nd worst traffic in North America behind LA. The good news is they have the amazing skytrain.
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Old February 15th, 2016, 12:27 AM   #11337
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I-80 near Green River, WY

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Old February 15th, 2016, 02:08 AM   #11338
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That's one crazy interchange. I remember being in a tour bus a couple years ago going through it. I thought that was called the Chicago Loop.
Well close, it's called the circle! And good to see it being redesigned.
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A northbound view over I-90/94 near downtown Chicago. You can see the I-290 interchange under reconstruction and the high exit density towards the Chicago Loop. The exit numbering goes up to 52H.

I like the fact that pretty much every street has its own exit. You don't get a whole blocked lane stretching a mile because there's a red light.
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Old February 16th, 2016, 07:37 PM   #11340
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I-70 Glenwood Canyon, Colorado

A rockslide has closed I-70 in both directions through the Glenwood Canyon since yesterday. There have been no injuries, but the freeway sustained damage. The detour is 203 miles long, turning a 45 minute trip into a nearly 4 hour trip.

The alternate route for westbound motorists is north on CO 131 at Wolcott to Steamboat Springs, west on US 40 to Craig, then south on CO 13 to Rifle and back to I-70.
(per the Colorado Department of Transporation)

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