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Old September 28th, 2007, 09:21 PM   #1141
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A new extension of I-210 into San Bernardino County near Los Angeles. This is obviously before it was opened to traffic.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 12:28 AM   #1142
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Can you post some pictures of the I 210 now that is opened to traffic? Thanks
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Old September 29th, 2007, 05:46 PM   #1143
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What kind of pavement do you guys use? Just rough concrete? It looks like a 50 year old German Autobahn already.

What part of the I-210 is this? The final stretch to the I-215?
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Old September 29th, 2007, 05:56 PM   #1144
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You're seeing the foundation of the road. The final layer hasn't been poured on yet.
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Old September 29th, 2007, 06:28 PM   #1145
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Then why are there aroad markings painted on the pavement?
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Old September 30th, 2007, 11:42 PM   #1146
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After driving in Southern California, I had an impression that they really prefer concrete surface for their motorways. But then, they have a huge motorway network, so I would guess concrete works better in terms of cost.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:17 AM   #1147
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Asphalt is not used on the freeways, but it is used on the exits and entrances. The surface used on the new segment of the 210 is supposed to last 40 years, so I guess that means it will be replaced in 100 years.

Sorry that it's so small, but this is the only picture that I could find that showed traffic on the new extension.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 04:44 AM   #1148
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Thanks anyway
Do you know any website or thread with tons of pictures of freeways? USA Freeways/Los Angeles Freeways
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Old October 1st, 2007, 05:38 AM   #1149
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http://www.interstate-guide.com/
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Old October 1st, 2007, 05:39 AM   #1150
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As a note, the new extension of the 210 is not yet part of the Interstate system. That should come about some time next year.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 08:39 PM   #1151
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What kind of pavement do you guys use? Just rough concrete? It looks like a 50 year old German Autobahn already.

What part of the I-210 is this? The final stretch to the I-215?
New concrete on USA highways is usually very smooth and has good non-skid properties. Many USA states use it as 'SOP' (Standard Operating Procedure) on roads that get moderate to heavy traffic loads, such as new/rebuilt four lanes and freeways and many more major two-laners.

Properly built, a concrete highway surface can last decades - the Edens Expressway (I-94) in the Chicago area was repaved with concrete in the late 1970s and early 1980s and it still gives a very smooth ride - even though it is constantly pounded with very heavy traffic.

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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:07 PM   #1152
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I was in the Washington DC area in the beginning of september, and I think the freeways and the interstates look pretty much the same as the european counterparts. It was mostly asphalt from what I saw.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 05:57 AM   #1153
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I know that this isn't an Interstate, but the Ventura Freeway portion of US-101 has an asphalt layer that was put on a few years ago. Anyone know why they decided to put asphalt on that freeway and not concrete?
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 10:51 AM   #1154
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Maybe because asphalt is generally more noise-reducing as concrete?
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 10:54 AM   #1155
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I have a question about American taxes for driving. Which taxes are there?

In the Netherlands, the taxes are huge.

First, when you buy a new car, you have to pay 19% VAT, and 42% extra over the initial price.

Then, you have to pay a monthly amount of money for having the car, depending on kind of car, weight, and fuel. (we use diesel extensive for cars too).

Third, you have to pay a lot of taxes over fuel consumption, the usualy 19% VAT, but also extra environmental taxes, so our price per gallon is over 7$.

We have no extra road tolls, but they are thinking of implementing it, making driving even costlier.

What about it in the USA?
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 01:10 PM   #1156
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Chris, the fuel taxes vary from state to state. These maps show how much tax each state imposes on diesel and benzine.

The taxes on new cars are not as high as in Europe though. On average, you would pay about $2000 worth of taxes on a $25000 car. However, you have to add registration fees (vary greatly in every state), title fees, and EMISSION FEES. The latter can be really huge. For instance, in California, emission fee is about $2000 for a passenger car priced below $20000. Other states don't have these strict emission requirements, but the Federal government is planning to introduce a nation-wide emission restrictions that would rise corresponding fees in every single state (as always, consumer pays for everything).

P.S. Since me and my wife moved to Washington, we drive on average 2 km a day. So, the benzine price is not critical for me anymore
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Old October 4th, 2007, 07:48 PM   #1157
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US-93

I was looking at this road that crosses the Hoover Dam, and I noticed that a pretty large freeway is going there. Is this going to replace all of the 93 or just the portion that crosses the Colorado River?
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Old October 4th, 2007, 07:57 PM   #1158
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The I-515 goes to a point between Henderson and Boulder City, that's only a few miles from the Hoover Dam from Nevada side.

From the Arizona side, the US93 is a multilane highway from Kingman (at the I-40) to almost the Hoover Dam.

The US93 north of Las Vegas is damn remote. Only a few villages along the 260 mile route to Ely, and only a few villages over 140 miles between Ely and Wells, at the I-80.
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The bridge will replace US 93 over the dam. After it is complete, the dam will be closed to through traffic.

When the I-system was being laid out, both Las Vegas, NV and Phoenix, AZ were metros of between 50 and 100K, not enough to justify a long interstate through the middle of nowhere. Both are now in the 2-3M range.

There are, of course, security worries regarding that traffic, but the bypass bridge has been planned for many years and is needed to clear up that traffic bottleneck.

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Old October 4th, 2007, 08:07 PM   #1160
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I can see construction near the Hoover Dam and I can tell that a bridge is going to be built there, but is this going to replace the entire stretch of US-93 to Arizona or just to improve the traffic flow over the Hoover Dam since that is a major bottleneck?
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