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Old December 3rd, 2007, 09:03 PM   #1301
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^ I think it does.

I-73 is also another road that looks iffy that it will get completed. A lot of states to the north (especially Ohio) are moving slowly to actually plan their sections. That, or North Carolina is moving too fast, if that makes sense. But at least it makes more sense than I-74.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 04:47 AM   #1302
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^ I think it does.

I-73 is also another road that looks iffy that it will get completed. A lot of states to the north (especially Ohio) are moving slowly to actually plan their sections. That, or North Carolina is moving too fast, if that makes sense. But at least it makes more sense than I-74.
Here's the thing I don't get.

Why can't US 35 in Ohio(which is all freeway from I-75 to WV) not be designated as I-73? Then just duel I-73 and I-75 to Toledo and then run 127 as I-73 on up into Michigan and onto upgraded old US 27?
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Old December 4th, 2007, 05:28 AM   #1303
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Here's the thing I don't get.

Why can't US 35 in Ohio(which is all freeway from I-75 to WV) not be designated as I-73? Then just duel I-73 and I-75 to Toledo and then run 127 as I-73 on up into Michigan and onto upgraded old US 27?
That would serve no purpose, other than to say, "hey look, this road is two expressways instead of one!"

When I-73 was being considered in Ohio in the early 1990's, it would have been an expressway link between Toledo and Columbus (a very painful, congested corridor which I travel far too often ), continuing to the Southeast. It would have replaced U.S. 23. But due to budget constraints and NIMBY's it was never built and the state has cancelled all plans.

Today, segments of U.S. 23 are so urbanized (especially in Delaware County which exploded in population) it's going to be 10 times as difficult and expensive to build out this route.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 05:40 AM   #1304
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That would serve no purpose, other than to say, "hey look, this road is two expressways instead of one!"

When I-73 was being considered in Ohio in the early 1990's, it would have been an expressway link between Toledo and Columbus (a very painful, congested corridor which I travel far too often ), continuing to the Southeast. It would have replaced U.S. 23. But due to budget constraints and NIMBY's it was never built and the state has cancelled all plans.

Today, segments of U.S. 23 are so urbanized (especially in Delaware County which exploded in population) it's going to be 10 times as difficult and expensive to build out this route.
Which is why I-73 needs to go the way of I-80/90 from Chicago to Cleveland, only on I-75 and from Toledo to Dayton. Then go on US 35 and take that all the way to WV.

No it doesn't solve US 23's issues but it's the next best thing toward a complete I-73 from Michigan to South Carolina. (and it avoids Columbus with additional truck traffic).

Another option if you don't want I-73/75 from Toledo to Dayton is I-73/75 from Toledo to Wapakoneta, then freeway US 33 from Bellefontaine westward till Wapakoneta.

From there, take 270 from 33 at Dublin on down to 23 South as I-73 and then US 23 south freeway'd(since South of Columbus is not built up at all).
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Old December 4th, 2007, 08:11 AM   #1305
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I don't see the point in I-73 going through Ohio unless it involves new expressway construction. Ohio isn't some redneck state desperate for a new expressway at all costs that it would take one added on in name only to one of the already existing ones.
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Old December 4th, 2007, 03:48 PM   #1306
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I don't see the point in I-73 going through Ohio unless it involves new expressway construction. Ohio isn't some redneck state desperate for a new expressway at all costs that it would take one added on in name only to one of the already existing ones.
Cough*I-80/90*cough Cough*I-39/90/94*cough

Besides, US 35 is a relatively new freeway anyway.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 09:54 PM   #1307
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The pavement is really crappy! I'm surprised, this is THE road on the West Coast, something like this would be inconceivable in the EU.
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FM 2258, the interstate on your pics looks really bad, such a motorway wouldn´t be allowed anywhere in europe, the concrete must be really awful to drive on, I am happy we have very smooth asphalt here on the nationalroads, what bothers me msot is that on one of your pics there are aktually potholes on the asphalt which is very bad for a motorway.
I would think with a 41,000+ mile freeway system, there are bound to be a couple potholes somewhere in the system.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 10:07 PM   #1308
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I would think with a 41,000+ mile freeway system, there are bound to be a couple potholes somewhere in the system.
[radi] yes but the united states is supposed to be rich yet still has such shitty motorways. the struma and the trakiya are much smoother and shinier than these pictures and that's without the money that the EU is supposed to give us, those idoits. look at this: (some picture of substandard freeway from a bulgarian bus) and tell me that it wouldnt be the best in the US if built there[/radi]
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Old December 6th, 2007, 01:19 AM   #1309
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Old December 6th, 2007, 08:37 PM   #1310
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ADCS, nah, it's too intelligent. No one would believe it's Radi.
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Old December 7th, 2007, 12:09 AM   #1311
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Sorry, couldn't bring myself to misspell more than one word
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Old December 12th, 2007, 08:01 PM   #1312
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New section of interstate opens this week, likely Wednesday or Thursday, 2007-12-12 or 13

After several years of delay due to unforeseen acid rock (iron pyrite) formations that were found during construction, I-99 between Bald Eagle Village and State College, PA will open sometime this week, date/time dependent on weather.

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/283119.html



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Old December 12th, 2007, 08:15 PM   #1313
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I-99 is a weird number there... I-95 and I-97 are more to the east, doesn't fit quite within the system...
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Old December 12th, 2007, 08:17 PM   #1314
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I-99 is a weird number there... I-95 and I-97 are more to the east, doesn't fit quite within the system...
Yea, that number was written into federal law by a local USHouse representative when he inserted the project into a Federal highway funding bill back in the late 1980s or early 1990s.



Also, some more info on this project:

http://www.centredaily.com/news/local/story/286478.html

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Old December 16th, 2007, 08:15 PM   #1315
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New section of interstate to open Tuesday, 2007-12-18

A 5 km section of (future) I-73/840 on the west side of Greensboro, NC opens on Tuesday, 2007-12-18.

http://www.digtriad.com/news/local_s...94695&catid=57

Also check out the KEWL video of a drive on this new section of interstate in the above link.



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Old December 16th, 2007, 08:44 PM   #1316
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Wow, NC motorways have European-like entrance and exit lane marking
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Old December 19th, 2007, 06:10 AM   #1317
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New video from the same guy, with Christmas cheer:

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Old December 19th, 2007, 06:40 AM   #1318
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Canada/USA: If I had $40 Billion to put toward new freeways...

-I'd want to see I-69 fully completed from Indy to Brownsville
-I-49 from Kansas City to Shreveport
-I-73 in its entirety(even if that means saving costs in Ohio by making US 35 into I-73 and dueling up I-75/73 from Toledo to Dayton, much in the way I-39/90/94 is in Wisconsin)
-I-74 from Cincinnati eastward to West Virginia and then southward to SC

and in Canada...

-Highway 400 in Ontario all the way north to Sudbury.
-Highway 417 all the way west from Ottawa to the Manitoba border.
-A-73 all the way south to Maine
-A-30 in its entirety
-A-85 in its entirety
-A-5 from Gatineau east to A-15(and complete that too).

That's just me.

You guys?
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Old December 19th, 2007, 07:19 AM   #1319
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Freeways are a thing of the past. Invest your $40 bill in some public transport/rail... real infrastrcuture.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 07:25 AM   #1320
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Freeways are a thing of the past. Invest your $40 bill in some public transport/rail... real infrastrcuture.
Trucks will always be the lifeline of trade.

Public Transport doesn't do jack for Trucks. Rail is doing all it can with freight. This has a lot more to do with Trucks then anything else. We will always need freeways for semis. Distribution Centers locate by freeways. Look at China and their extensive buildout of freeways(which incidentally in Eastern China, are never "free" and several roads are actually listed on the Hong Kong Exchange to be bought and sold as a commodity or bond). It's all about the Trucks.
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