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Old December 19th, 2007, 07:29 AM   #1321
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how about a highspeed rail coast to coast in canada...
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Old December 19th, 2007, 07:32 AM   #1322
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-Two new 6 or 8 lane Saint Claire River crossings in the Detroit-Windsor area along with needed new connecting freeways on each side (all entries that I make here assume a Canada-USA customs union allowing the border checkpoints to be removed);

-A new Niagara River crossing between I-290 and the QEW on the north edge of Buffalo, NY/Fort Erie, ON;

-Interstate compatible highway upgrades between Vancouver, BC and Calgary and Edmonton, AB, along with better connections between that and I-5;

-A new-ROW I-25 extension from I-90 near Sheridan, WY via the Tongue River to I-94 in the Miles City, MT area, then continuing northward from I-94 roughly along MT 16 from Glendive, MT to continue along SK 6 to Regina, SK;

-Interstate compatible highway upgrades along US 2 and US 41 between I-75 at Saint Ignace, MI and Green Bay, WI. Also a direct freeway connection between the International Bridge at SSM and a new major highway running eastward from SSM towards Sudbury, ON (twin the bridge?);

-Extend I-35 from Duluth, MN to Thunder Bay, ON.

That should just aboot eat up $40G.



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Old December 19th, 2007, 07:35 AM   #1323
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how about a highspeed rail coast to coast in canada...
Still won't solve the Trucking situation. I'm thinking for your area, get Highway 1 east from Winnipeg widened to 4 lanes to the Ontario Border, and then have either Highway 11 or 17 widened to 4 Lanes to Thunder Bay(and 4 Lane Highway 61 all the way south to Duluth, MN as a collaboration between MTO and MNDOT to be both I-35 and a new 400-series Highway) and then Highway 17 widened to 4 Lanes to Sault Ste. Marie(where it can tie into I-75).

It's ALL about truck traffic and vastly improving logistics for your nation. As we all know, Canada has a ways to go before having as tightly integrated logistics like the USA and EU have.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 07:43 AM   #1324
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New section of interstate opened today (2007-12-18)

A new 3 km section of I-64 (upgraded from the prior US 40) opened on Tuesday, 2007-12-18 in suburban Saint Louis, MO.

http://www.modot.org/stlouis/news_an...I&newsId=14559



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Old December 19th, 2007, 07:47 AM   #1325
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It seems like there quite a few new stretches of Interstate opening up this year. This is good.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 08:06 AM   #1326
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Here are some pictures of northbound Interstate 710 heading from Interstate 405 to the Alondra Blvd/Compton Exit in the Los Angeles area. It's no Struma Motorway or highway with fantastic views but still a very vital part of our wonderful Interstate highway system:

All taken in the afternoon of November 16, 2007:


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Old December 19th, 2007, 09:23 AM   #1327
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As mentioned above, the southern branch of the Trans-Canada highway (Hwy. 1/5/97 in BC) should be brought up to freeway standards from Calgary to Kamloops, as well as from Kamloops back to Chiliwack. This isn't just due to traffic - in the highway's current configuration, it is unsafe. There are a lot of fatal wrecks in the mountains between Alberta and BC. Also, Canada's main port to the orient is the port of Vancouver, and it would be good to widen the Trans-Can out of Vancouver to Calgary for cargo shipping alone.

This isn't exclusive of rail lines; rail lines could be overhauled or installed at the same time the highway is rebuilt.

This would be expensive in the short-term, certainly. But it is the type of investment in infrastructure that makes the whole economy richer.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 12:34 PM   #1328
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-Highway 400 in Ontario all the way north to Sudbury.
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As far as I know, this is being done in various stages as we speak, many parts scheduled to be completed circa 2009-2010.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 12:42 PM   #1329
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That's a nice video. Also the 6 lane change!
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Old December 19th, 2007, 12:56 PM   #1330
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Wow the pavement looks extremely old, and so are the signs. But i guess repaving it (in this case, i think it needs whole new concrete slabs), causes chaos in the low density of freeways there is in Los Angeles.

(otherwise of what people think, Los Angeles doesn't have a very large freeway system, when counted to population, remember there live 18 million people there).
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Old December 19th, 2007, 01:03 PM   #1331
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Freeways are a thing of the past. Invest your $40 bill in some public transport/rail... real infrastrcuture.

Oh yeah? Since when is public transportation more efficient than cars?
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Old December 19th, 2007, 05:02 PM   #1332
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Wow the pavement looks extremely old, and so are the signs. But i guess repaving it (in this case, i think it needs whole new concrete slabs), causes chaos in the low density of freeways there is in Los Angeles.

(otherwise of what people think, Los Angeles doesn't have a very large freeway system, when counted to population, remember there live 18 million people there).
It may be old pavement, but without the freeze-thaw-freeze-thaw-freeze-thaw-etc thing in the Los Angeles area that much of the rest of the USA, Canada and Europe faces, it will have a much longer life, even with choking levels of traffic.

It may look old and tired, but if it gives a smooth ride, why replace it?

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Old December 19th, 2007, 05:46 PM   #1333
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Yeah i think so. And unlike Europe, i think the far majority of the traffic knows what to expect because they drive there everyday. In Europe there are far more foreign trucks and not-local traffic on the roads.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 07:39 PM   #1334
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It may look old and tired, but if it gives a smooth ride, why replace it?
Southern California motorways and expressways will often give you a very bumpy ride It's not that it would damage your suspension, but they are definitely not Struma, not even close
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Old December 19th, 2007, 07:47 PM   #1335
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The 710 (Long Beach Freeway) gets a ton of truck traffic because it goes directly to the combined ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach. There was a plan for truck lanes and carpool lanes (and some of the freeway was repaved a few years back) and most of it would go on the ROW that parallels the freeway, but I haven't heard about it for a long time, but the concrete barriers on the freeway makes me think that maybe they're going to start working on it soon?
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Old December 19th, 2007, 08:25 PM   #1336
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Western U.S.

I would focus on some of the most congested areas, one being the Seattle region. It is controversial, but I believe an eastside North-South bypass should be built east of I-405, taking a lot of truck traffic off of I-5 and I-405. Unfortunately, the residents of this area for the most part are dead set against it and it probably will never happen.

Staying out west, an alternate route (mainly for commercial traffic) should be built from Northern California up along the east side of the Cascades as far north as I-90 or beyond is another unlikely scenerio. I-5 is overburdened from Northern California to the Canadian border, and is the ONLY N-S freeway west of Idaho/Utah.
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Old December 19th, 2007, 08:36 PM   #1337
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I would understand why the residents of the area east of I-405 are much against this bypass.

As for the Nor-Cal to Canada alternative route, I have a hard time imagining where it could be built due to the geography of the region. I do, however, believe that there should be a direct link between Trans-Canada and I-5.
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How about this extremely nice asphalt, i bet it could be better than the Struma.

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I think the US road system is quite completed for now. Some US-routes which have lots of expressway-grade sections could be upgraded to full freeway standards, but i think i would much of that 40 billion dollars to dig freeways in in urban area's. It makes people more appreciate freeways.
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Old December 20th, 2007, 02:28 AM   #1340
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I think the US road system is quite completed for now. Some US-routes which have lots of expressway-grade sections could be upgraded to full freeway standards, but i think i would much of that 40 billion dollars to dig freeways in in urban area's. It makes people more appreciate freeways.
Won't help with truck traffic. It's not efficient for trucks to travel though tunnels for long distances(say, 2-3 miles or longer). Why else do you think truck traffic is so heavily restricted through tunnels worldwide?
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