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Old February 12th, 2008, 07:02 PM   #1661
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I-80 in Pennsylvania:
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That is a beautiful shot of Interstate 80(and U.S. 209). Does that sign say EAST Interstate 80 and NORTH U.S. 209? I wonder how long Interstate 80 follows U.S. 209. The speed limit is outrageous because I know that once the highway turns into a freeway people are itching to do 70mph and higher.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 08:29 PM   #1662
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209 is only with 80 for an exit or two- no more than a mile.
The speed limit is that low because it's a very narrow road with curves and several exits in close proximity.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 10:25 PM   #1663
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As many as dozen people were injured and 50 vehicles damaged in a fog-related pileup early Tuesday south of Fresno, the California Highway Patrol said.

The chain-reaction accident shut down a portion of Highway 99's southbound lanes and scattered broken glass and mangled cars along a three-mile stretch in Kingsburg.

Rescue crews cut three people from a car that slammed into a big rig, officer Joseph Miller said. One woman was unconscious and pinned in her car for almost two hours while crews attempted to pry her out.
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Old February 12th, 2008, 10:32 PM   #1664
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209 is only with 80 for an exit or two- no more than a mile.
The speed limit is that low because it's a very narrow road with curves and several exits in close proximity.
It looks like U.S. 209 follows the green line here so maybe the other "209" shown on the map is the "old 209" which is probably signed as a business US highway. I guess for people driving straight through on 209 it would make sense to let it follow 80 through the town.

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Southbound U.S. 209 Business (Main Street) at Interstate 80 in Stroudsburg. A half-cloverleaf interchange joins Interstate 80 & U.S. 209 above with Main Street below at Exit 305. The freeway itself is narrow with four lanes and a 50 mph speed limit from Stroudsberg eastward to the Delaware Water Gap. At the Delaware Water Gap, Interstate 80 crosses the scenic Delaware River via a tolled bridge into the Garden State. The bridge carries a $1 toll for all passenger vehicles traveling in the westbound direction. Photo taken 07/28/00.


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Old February 13th, 2008, 01:04 AM   #1665
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Been there, done that. During my 1994 roadtrip to Colorado, I hopped off of I-80 at first opportunity to use paralleling US 30 across Nebraska on my eastbound return trip. It runs right next to the World's busiest freight railroad - 120 trains/day on average.

About I-90, yes, there is some interest in the area around the PA/NY state line (yes, the vineyards), but most of it is straight or long broad curves, long gentle grades and absolutely unchanging trees, trees, more trees and still more trees. And yes, you can see Lake Erie in the distance from several sections, but it just doesn't overcome that stifling boredom. Going eastbound, I-86 (it connects with I-90 just east of Erie) is a welcome relief.

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The unchanging trees you talk about seems similar to the boredom you get on the New Jersey Turnpike.


Who knew that nice perfectly straight freeways would become boring? I guess you can't fault the actual highway because all it does is take you through the landscape. Better to be bored on a long freeway at high speed versus being frustrated taking a horse and buggy on a muddy trail in the same location in the 1890's.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 01:38 AM   #1666
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^ Or in case one prefers the second option, (s)he can still do it.
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Old February 13th, 2008, 10:10 AM   #1667
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That is a beautiful shot of Interstate 80(and U.S. 209). Does that sign say EAST Interstate 80 and NORTH U.S. 209? I wonder how long Interstate 80 follows U.S. 209. The speed limit is outrageous because I know that once the highway turns into a freeway people are itching to do 70mph and higher.
People fly on this stretch of freeway. Speed enforcement signs are everywhere, yet the traffic moves at an extremely quick pace -- Coupled with the narrowness of the corridor, it makes for a very entertaining drive .
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Old February 14th, 2008, 03:37 PM   #1668
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I-10 San Bernardino Frwy - Westbound

Slow 57 Orange Frwy to I-710/Long Beach Frwy Delay of 26 minutes
5.30 am
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Old February 14th, 2008, 05:25 PM   #1669
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60 Pomona Frwy - Westbound

Jammed I-15 Frwy to I-10 Santa Monica Frwy Delay of 102 minutes

I-10 San Bernardino Frwy - Westbound

Jammed 57 Orange Frwy to I-710/Long Beach Frwy Delay of 75 minutes

210 Frwy - Westbound

Jammed San Dimas Av to Rosemead Blvd Delay of 101 minutes

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Old February 15th, 2008, 12:28 AM   #1670
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wait are you saying many of there roads here were build before WWII. we are talking about the interstate system right, the one that Eisenhower started in the 50's or what?
Miptag. there were several toll highways built before the Interstate system started eg The Mass turnpike, Penn turnpike etc. These were incorporated into the Interstate system and were allowed to continue collecting tolls.
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Old February 17th, 2008, 11:51 AM   #1671
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http://www.youtube.com/user/llnesinthesand

Check out the stack of road video's of this guy. Mainly in the southeastern United States area.
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Old February 17th, 2008, 05:04 PM   #1672
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South Carolina has recently updated its official state route marker.

Out with the old...

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And in with the new...

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Old February 17th, 2008, 06:08 PM   #1673
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Some US states have very unimaginative route markers
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Old February 17th, 2008, 08:37 PM   #1674
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Some US states have very unimaginative route markers
True...but they are designed to get you from point a to point b, not necessarily look nice.
These new SC signs look nice- In fact, I think they did a pretty good job with them- but there is, in theory, less room for the actual number, which is sort of important after all.
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Old February 17th, 2008, 11:14 PM   #1675
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Billpa, you know what is ironic? When I said that European speed limit sign was better than American, a lot of American fellow forumer members said that European red circle with a number inside would look like a route number to them which would be confusing. However, old SC and current Montana route markers (maybe there are more I am unaware of) look exactly like American speed limit sign
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Old February 18th, 2008, 12:19 AM   #1676
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Billpa, you know what is ironic? When I said that European speed limit sign was better than American, a lot of American fellow forumer members said that European red circle with a number inside would look like a route number to them which would be confusing. However, old SC and current Montana route markers (maybe there are more I am unaware of) look exactly like American speed limit sign
You're right.
There are no route markers that use red circles so I think that argument is bogus, as do you, I suspect.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 04:43 AM   #1677
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Man, Pennsylvania has the worst roads in the country. Trust me, I have spent many hours driving on them.

Their roads are barely above the quality you would expect in a third world country.
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I-81 and I-80 in PA are decent, from my limited experience.
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I'm actually used to both the British and American system, actually, I suppose it's because of the time I've spent in both places.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 01:47 PM   #1680
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Man, Pennsylvania has the worst roads in the country. Trust me, I have spent many hours driving on them.

Their roads are barely above the quality you would expect in a third world country.
Many hours?
Some of us live here.
There are problems here, but I think you could do worse in places like Louisiana.
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