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Old February 27th, 2008, 01:38 AM   #1721
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Clearview has been selected as the new standard font for signage, thanks to its increased readability. It's caught on in several states, including Illinois and Michigan.

I believe Georgia uses a narrower version of Clearview that is unique among US states.
Several states seem to have moved or are looking like they're moving to Clearview- Georgia uses a standard font that while narrow, is not Clearview.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 03:54 AM   #1722
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I hat the clearview look. Too fake and video game looking. Give me Highway Gothic on a dark green Big Green Sign, 80s style, any day.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 05:55 AM   #1723
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I hat the clearview look. Too fake and video game looking. Give me Highway Gothic on a dark green Big Green Sign, 80s style, any day.
I agree. I was in San Antonio a couple days ago with my sister and we came upon a sign gantry with original button copy gothic style green signs. I pointed them out to her and she said "wow, that looks really cool." Mind you she cares more about all the stuff 17 year old girls love these days but I was like "really?" and she was like "yeah, the new signs actually look older to me."


I wish we were able to vote on something like this. I have no idea what could be done to reverse this awful decision.

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Old February 27th, 2008, 09:46 AM   #1724
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There will always be some dinosaurs that dislike progress; nevertheless, the humanity still keeps moving forward

By the way, Clearview was designed jointly by Texas Transportation Institute and Pennsylvania Transportation Institute. Initially it was supposed to be based an existing European sans serif typeface, but then they created a completely new font from scratch. Personally, I see little difference between Clearview and Engschrift except that the earlier has different digits and is spaced wider.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 01:43 PM   #1725
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Funny fact is that in the US, generally low speed limits apply on interstates, though in some rural area's of Texas, up to 121km/h can apply on one lane highways. This is in contrast to Europe, where the motorway speed limits are usually higher, but the ordinary highway limit is 20 - 40km/h slower than in the United States.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 02:58 PM   #1726
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In case anyone missed the New York Times article last year abour Clearview...

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/12/ma...pagewanted=all
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Old February 27th, 2008, 06:31 PM   #1727
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I do think Clearview is better than the old font, but I think I'll miss the older stuff if we ever go "all clearview, all the time".

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Old February 27th, 2008, 08:59 PM   #1728
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Clearview looks really good if they get the spacing right (like on new signs in Texas). When it is done with the same spacing as Series E Modified, as in the two above, it looks pretty crappy. Well, I guess the state can't be buggered with looking at that right off the bat.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 09:06 PM   #1729
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No clearview here in Connecticut, but our Merritt Parkway has an interesting font (not an Interstate, I know).

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Old February 27th, 2008, 09:46 PM   #1730
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Clearview looks pretty good, i must say. Much clearer than the new fonts they use on non-motorways in the Netherlands.
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Old February 27th, 2008, 11:22 PM   #1731
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I was curious about truck counts in the world, and i was think of which is the busiest truck route in the world.

The busiest Dutch truck corridor is the A15 motorway near Rotterdam, which has nearly 35.000 trucks per day. I know some mentioned the I-80 near Chicago has a lot of trucks, but IL DOT only gives like 23.000 trucks per day. The I-710 in Los Angeles has nearly 40.000 trucks per day. I think this is the highest count there is.

40000 trucks per day require four full lanes to handle this amount of trucks.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 12:15 AM   #1732
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I-75 has a lot of trucks.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 12:56 AM   #1733
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The I-75 runs from Miami to Sault Ste Marie, so you need to be more specific about that
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Old February 28th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #1734
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Wikipedia claims that Highway 401 in Ontario, between Windsor and London, is the heaviest trucking route in North America, but since it doesn't quote any sources or statistics, I don't know whether that's true. I know that the bulk of goods between Canada and the US travels through that corridor.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 01:29 AM   #1735
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The 401 AADT is 420.800 between Hwy 400 and Weston Road. This is only a very short section of 1 mile. There are only 2 sections which are surpassing the California 405 in AADt, and those are both on the 401. The other being from Weston Road to Islington Avenue, which carries 399.600 vehicles/day.

However, the Ontario DOT does not give any figures for truck counts.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 02:38 AM   #1736
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I-75 between Detroit and Toledo has a lot of trucks.
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Old February 28th, 2008, 03:28 AM   #1737
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I'm not sure who does the truck counting because I always thought our local Interstate 35 had alot of trucks but as Chriszwolle pointed out there are alot of trucks on Interstate 710 in the Los Angeles area. It was a scary highway to drive on but I think I was afraid because I was going to visit Compton for the first time.

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Old February 28th, 2008, 09:14 AM   #1738
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The 401 AADT is 420.800 between Hwy 400 and Weston Road. This is only a very short section of 1 mile. There are only 2 sections which are surpassing the California 405 in AADt, and those are both on the 401. The other being from Weston Road to Islington Avenue, which carries 399.600 vehicles/day.

However, the Ontario DOT does not give any figures for truck counts.
Yeah, you're correct, but the statement I referred to in Wikipedia specifically relates to truck traffic, and actually mentions the section between Windsor and London, which is far from Toronto (like 200 km), whereas the sections you're referring to are in the Toronto area. But of course, as I said, no sources are mentioned, and like you, I wasn't able to find any statistics.
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And there's nothing from Ontario MTO with stats?
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I can only find general AADT figures up to 2004, which is probably what Chris found too.
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