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Old November 3rd, 2005, 04:10 AM   #21
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These buses are pretty nice. Ironic that we had a proposal for a London casino here which was cancelled. But at least with these buses, one aspect of London is here to stay in Vegas.
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 08:37 AM   #22
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They look ok I guess. They look more like tour buses though. They should have just bought some old London style red buses to cruise up and down the strip.

For any other city I would think it would be lame to rip off something like that. But in Vegas it would work and be cool as hell.
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 11:18 AM   #23
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HK version is taller(celling height) isn`t?
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 02:45 PM   #24
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Im not a fan of buses but that bus is very very cool.Nice design and with a bicycle rack on the front.
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 09:58 PM   #25
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HK version is taller(celling height) isn`t?
I'm not sure about their height, but they are both 12m long and manufactured by the same company. So they should be the same, though vegas one does not have the TV broadcast that we have in HK and of course the smartcard octopus.. that's mean everytime ppl have to insert money to the machine near the bus driver and it takes a long time(they have machine at each bus stop on Dec.), but I think their LCD screen and especially the speaker are superior than ours... hehe
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Old November 5th, 2005, 05:28 PM   #26
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Now it's not just Dennis Tridents that have made it to North America, but also Enviros!

they've been in victoria, bc for a long time now.


victoria has used them for public transit for years.
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Old November 5th, 2005, 05:30 PM   #27
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^ Oh yes! Now I remember one of the past threads had a Victoria Enviro in it!



But I don't like the colours though. I prefer the Las Vegas livery.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 01:40 AM   #28
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^Very cool. Funny that my relatives from Canada sent me a message few days ago about a visit to Vancouver and Victoria in X'mas!







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Old November 6th, 2005, 03:24 AM   #29
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The Route:



Key To Hotels Around The Strip

A - Aladdin
AP - Alexis Park
B - Bally's Las Vegas
BC - Barbary Coast
BG - Bellagio
BH - Binion's Horseshoe
BS - Bourbon Street
BW - Holiday Inn BoardWalk
C - California Hotel
CC - Circus Circus
CP - Caesars Palace
E - Excalibur
EC - El Cortez
FH - Flamingo Hilton
FQ - Four Queens
FR - Fremont
FN - Frontier
FZ - Fitzgeralds
GC - Gold Coast
GG - Golden Coast
GN - Golden Nugget
GS - Gold Spike
HLV - Harrah's Las Vegas
HR - Hard Rock
IP - Imperial Palace
KI - Klondike Inn
LL - Lady Luck
LVOC - Las Vegas Outlet Center
LVH - Las Vegas Hilton
L - Luxor
MB - Mandalay Bay
MC - Monte Carlo
MGM - MGM Grand
MR - Mirage
MS - Main Street Station
NV - Nevada Hotel
NY - New York New York
P - Paris
PL - Plaza
PLM - Palms
PS - Palace Station
PT - Polo Towers
R - Rio
RV - Riviera
S - Sahara
SC - Sands Convention Ctr.
SR - San Remo
ST - Stardust
STP - Stratosphere
T - Tropicana
TI - Treasure Island
TR - Terrible's
TS - Tuscany
V - Venetian
WWW - Wild Wild West
WY - Wynn Hotel
DTC - Downtown Transportation Center
SSTT - South StripTransfer Terminal

For more information see:

http://www.rtcsouthernnevada.com/deuce/
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Old November 6th, 2005, 05:07 AM   #30
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So is it just Victoria, BC and Vegas that have double deckers now for public transport in North America?
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Old November 6th, 2005, 08:47 AM   #31
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^Very cool. Funny that my relatives from Canada sent me a message few days ago about a visit to Vancouver and Victoria in X'mas!
No more vacations on the colder side of Canada this holiday season?
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Old November 6th, 2005, 02:24 PM   #32
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I've seen some tourist busses in Ottawa and Toronto too (the old-style London double-deckers).
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Old November 6th, 2005, 07:00 PM   #33
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Am I the only one that is having a difficulty distinguishing from left to right? In other words, Hong Kong and London both open on the left and here in LV, it opens on the right.
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Old November 6th, 2005, 07:25 PM   #34
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Old November 6th, 2005, 11:40 PM   #35
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Am I the only one that is having a difficulty distinguishing from left to right? In other words, Hong Kong and London both open on the left and here in LV, it opens on the right.
LOL. Hong Kong and London are right-hand-drive. The passenger entry and exit doors are always facing the curb, on the opposite side of the driver. In London, the curb will be on the left side. That's why American buses have doors on the right, and London buses have them on the left.

Will London or other UK cities buy the new Alexander Dennis models like the ones in HK?
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Old November 7th, 2005, 03:39 AM   #36
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Yea, thats why its so weird, lol...I am so used to looking at Hong Kong's.
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Old November 12th, 2005, 04:24 PM   #37
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LAS VEGAS | Public Transport

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Old November 12th, 2005, 07:45 PM   #38
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That's too bad. I wonder if expansion to downtown or UNLV would help it.
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Old November 12th, 2005, 09:40 PM   #39
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The monorail isn't going downtown. It's going to the airport.

For the record, the income numbers stated in the article at the top of this thread are for farebox income only and don't include advertising income. The system presently attracts about 30,000 riders per day. The break even point on operating costs and construction financing costs is about 40,000 riders per day.

Though plans for an extension downtown appear dead, an extension to the airport is being studied:

http://www.inbusinesslasvegas.com/20...1/tourism.html

Tourism and Travel

McCarran plans monorail groundwork

By Richard N. Velotta / Staff Writer


The Las Vegas Monorail travels toward the Las Vegas Convention Center near the Strip in July.
Photo by Matthew Minard


The Clark County Commission's recent decision to draft a feasibility study on the extension of the Las Vegas Monorail to McCarran International Airport is one more example of how people are thinking about what can be done to improve the Las Vegas visitor experience.

Commissioners approved a study about extending the 4-mile, $650 million monorail system from its southern terminus at the MGM Grand to the airport, which is on a pace to serve more than 44 million passengers in 2005.

Currently, the monorail operates along the east side of several Las Vegas Strip resorts. The train stops at stations at the MGM Grand, Paris-Las Vegas and Bally's, the Flamingo, the Imperial Palace and Harrah's, the Las Vegas Convention Center, the Las Vegas Hilton and the Sahara.

In addition to an extension to McCarran, monorail officials are looking at a line along the west side of the Strip that would serve even more hotels.

MGM Mirage Chief Executive Terry Lanni is a monorail fan. He recently told the Las Vegas Sun that extending the monorail to the airport could get tourists to their Strip hotel rooms faster and eliminate traffic congestion.

Long taxi lines at McCarran are a growing problem during the airport's peak hours, and Lanni said Arizona Sen. John McCain recently spent nearly an hour in line to get a cab at the airport.

Last week's approval of the study does not guarantee that the line would ever be built. Monorail officials are estimating that an extension would cost between $100 million and $800 million. Monorail officials are hoping a decision on extending the line could be reached by the end of next year.

Approval of the study sets the stage for thinking about what's on the horizon at the airport if the line is approved.

Dennis Mewshaw, McCarran's planning manager, said airport officials already are considering the prospects of having the monorail at McCarran.

Among the questions raised about an airport-Strip monorail link is whether passengers would be willing to schlep their suitcases from the baggage claim area to the airport monorail stop and then from the monorail stop to the hotel front desk.

Mewshaw said airport planners have already looked at the issue.

"In order to make the monorail a viable option," Mewshaw said, "you have to separate the passengers from their luggage."

That's why McCarran officials are looking at hotel check-in sites at the airport and off-airport check-in programs at the same time as the monorail infrastructure itself.

Mewshaw said MGM Mirage and Harrah's Entertainment, the companies that operate the most Las Vegas hotel rooms, already have check-in stations at the airport to accommodate guests staying at their numerous hotels.

Under the ideal scenario, luggage coming off the plane would be routed directly to the hotels so that passengers don't even have to bother with it. But for those who claim bags at the McCarran carousels, the hotel check-in sites would be an intermediate stop before going to the monorail.

Under current broad plans, the monorail would have two stops at McCarran, one just north of McCarran's baggage claim area, the other at the yet-to-be-built Terminal 3.

McCarran officials are just about to go to bid on the first project that eventually would lead to the construction of Terminal 3 -- the redesign and relocation of Russell Road near Maryland Parkway. The project, expected to be completed in the second quarter of 2007, also would relocate utility lines.

Terminal 3, which would serve international and domestic flights when it is completed in 2010, would be located just north of the existing D gate complex.

When Terminal 3 is built, it would be connected with an underground people-mover, similar to the above-ground trams that run between the main terminal and the C and D gates. Mewshaw said there also would be a pedestrian corridor about 900 feet long linking Terminal 3 with the D gates.

But back to the monorail. Terminal 3 and the monorail stop that would be a part of it haven't been designed.

The stop at the north end of the baggage claim area presumably would be elevated, so passengers claiming their bags would go up an elevator or escalator and hop the train and head for the Strip. Mewshaw said the area north of baggage claim currently is a limousine pickup point on the ground level.

For the return trip from the hotel to the airport, McCarran officials are working to develop off-airport check-in systems so that hotel guests can check their bags and get their flight boarding passes before leaving the hotel. That would eliminate hauling luggage onto the monorail and waiting in line at the airport.

McCarran officials are working with federal authorities to develop a system that complies with security regulations for passengers with luggage.

Mewshaw said Orlando resorts already are offering baggage transit arrangements for tourists.

"We feel like we're pioneers here, but Orlando already has a similar service for the Disney resorts," he said.

The convenient access envisioned with the monorail and baggage transport systems could be a whole new selling point for conventioneers.

Imagine boarding a plane in St. Louis at 7 in the morning and routing your suitcase to your hotel room, flying to Las Vegas, getting off the plane and picking up a hotel room key before boarding the monorail and getting to the Convention Center in time for the show's opening.

A conventioneer could spend the whole day at the show, catch the monorail when the show closes for the day and go straight to the hotel room where the suitcase is waiting.

After catching a nap, the conventioneer could be ready to enjoy what Las Vegas is famous for.

Now that's a visitor experience.

In other tourism news:

What is being called the official documentary of the city's centennial observation will be shown on PBS in two parts Monday and Tuesday nights.

"Las Vegas: An Unconventional History" will be aired as part of PBS' "American Experience" series on KLVX, Channel 10, at 9 both nights.

An award-winning documentary film team wrote, directed and produced the show, narrated by film star Michael Murphy.

Ironic, isn't it, that the show will go head to head with NBC's "Las Vegas," which will have local icons Robert Goulet and Lance Burton as guests in Monday's episode.

Richard N. Velotta covers tourism for In Business Las Vegas and its sister publication, the Las Vegas Sun. He can be reached at (702) 259-4061 or by e-mail at [email protected].
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But isnt it $5 per trip? I think thats a bit overprice.
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