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Old December 7th, 2006, 01:00 AM   #81
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At the cost of the current proposed expansion they could have had an elevated light rail line that could run at-grade where appropriate to save cost.
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Elevated viaducts for light rail are generally considered an option of last resort for residential and business areas due to 1) the shading of the street, 2) the obstruction of views, and 3) the noise impacts. Monorail has significant advantages in each of these areas.

The Regional Transportation Commission of Southern Nevada did consider an at-grade light rail system for a regional transit line that will run behind the resorts on the west side of the strip. The conclusion was that a bus rapid transit system could offer similar service at much lower cost. For more information, see the following link:

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Old December 7th, 2006, 01:45 PM   #82
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Old December 8th, 2006, 03:17 AM   #83
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I remember the original monorail that ran just between MGM and Bally's, it was FREE to ride that one.

Oh yes, that monorail was so nice. I loved it. It had the same trains as in Disney's parks.

I have some old shots from that era:











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Old December 9th, 2006, 02:00 AM   #84
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I saw a blurb sometime ago that the former Walt Disney World trains used for the MGM Grand-Bally's monorail were purchased by Schwager Davis, Inc. < http://www.schwagerdavis.com/transit.html >, so they may yet reappear in some future peoplemover or transit project.
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Old December 9th, 2006, 11:31 PM   #85
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Las Vegas needed some sort of mass transport even for just for that area along "The Strip". The distances are huge from one end to the other, cabs are few, buses are slow, and in searing heat walking, believe me, can be tough!.

Its a good thing for business.

I imagene there may be a master plan to build some mass transit for the rest of Vegas.
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Old December 10th, 2006, 07:17 AM   #86
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I imagene there may be a master plan to build some mass transit for the rest of Vegas.


Oh yes, here is the map:


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http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/condomap.htm
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Old December 11th, 2006, 03:59 AM   #87
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Mandalay Bay – Luxor – Excalibur Tram








The Mandalay Bay-Luxor-Excalibur Tram runs 24 hours a day, every 3-4 minutes.
The tram between Excalibur and Mandalay Bay is non-stop southbound.
It stops at both Luxor and Excalibur northbound from Mandalay Bay.

Excalibur main station, the monorail will take you directly to Mandalay Bay, about a 3-minutes trip.
If you start from Mandalay Bay, you will stop at the Luxor and then the Excalibur, about a 7-minutes trip.

All waiting areas are indoor except the Luxor's, but some walking is required to make the loop (there are stairs as well as an elevator to access the tram stop).
Fortunately, everything is well air-conditioned. Luxor's is the only monorail stop with music for waiting passengers.



Excalibur Station












Excalibur Station Video
A Northbound tram train arriving the Excalibur Tram Station

Mandalay Bay-Luxor-Excalibur Tram (Interior)


Luxor Station










Mandalay Bay Station








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A Southbound tram train arriving the Mandalay Bay Tram Station

Mandalay Bay-Luxor-Excalibur Tram






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Old December 11th, 2006, 04:57 AM   #88
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Anyone have pictures of the Bellagio tram?
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Old December 11th, 2006, 09:28 AM   #89
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The Bellagio tram went from there to Monte Carlo, so it's tore down now because CityCenter is under construction between those locations. Some of the CityCenter renderings show a monorail station.
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Old December 11th, 2006, 02:40 PM   #90
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Anyone have pictures of the Bellagio tram?
I will posting pictures and videos of this tram later. I hope they will re-open it once they complete CityCenter.
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Old December 12th, 2006, 12:17 PM   #91
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Some pictures from my trip, made in august 2004:

Buses: http://ferroviech.fotopic.net/c309743.html
Monorail: http://ferroviech.fotopic.net/c309755.html
Excalibur-Mandaly Bay people mover: http://ferroviech.fotopic.net/c309765.html
TreausreIsland people mover: http://ferroviech.fotopic.net/c309778.html

At this time, the Bellagio line was out of service.
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Old December 15th, 2006, 03:01 PM   #92
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Old December 17th, 2006, 09:03 AM   #93
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The Mirage to Treasure Island Tram








The Mirage-Treasure Island tram runs between 9 a.m. and midnight.
The tram arrives every 15 minutes at its slowest.
The ride lasts about 4 minutes, add another 3-4 minutes on either end for the disembarking procedure.

The Mirage stop of this monorail is outside but well shaded. At Treasure Island, passengers wait indoors.
No smoking, food or uncovered beverages are allowed. The ride, which passes under not-very-tropical vegetation, is slow but smooth.
Seating is bus-style, with long benches and a little standing room.


The Mirage Station








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Old February 1st, 2007, 08:06 PM   #94
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Las Vegas Monorail sets new monthly passenger low in December
30 January 2007

LAS VEGAS (AP) - Ridership on the Las Vegas Monorail dropped almost a third in 2006, with December the worst month ever in the system's second full year of operation, according to monorail statistics.

The 2006 total of 7 million passengers, or an average of 19,219 riders a day, was down nearly 32 percent from 10.3 million in 2005, when the daily average was 28,122 passengers.

Ingrid Reisman, spokeswoman for the Las Vegas Monorail Co., said Tuesday that system executives anticipated ridership would decrease after they raised base one-way fares from $3 to $5 last January.

But she said revenues increased 4 percent over the year, to $31.4 million, and said administrators planned to increase ridership with new marketing and ticket programs aimed at attracting more tourists and conventioneers.

"That's really where we're going to see the greatest benefit in 2007," she said.

The $650 million system averaged 15,430 riders a day in December, well below the previous low of 18,197 passengers per day in January 2006.

The monorail runs 3.9 miles on a Z-shaped elevated track behind several large Las Vegas resorts and the Las Vegas Convention Center. It competes with a double-deck bus system operated by the regional transit authority that Reisman said carries some 30,000 passengers a day along the Las Vegas Strip.

The average of 19,219 people a day the monorail attracted in 2006 was less than half the 50,000-plus that system administrators projected before a problem-plagued opening in mid-2004.

Reliability has improved, but revenues have not met projections and investment firms have cut monorail bond ratings to "junk" status.

Cash reserves, which were built into the system when state-backed tax-exempt bonds were floated to finance construction, can keep the system solvent through 2010, Reisman said Tuesday.

Administrators hope recent approval by the Clark County Commission to plan a $500 million, 4.2-mile expansion to McCarran International Airport will help increase ridership. The airport handles more than 44 million passengers in 2005.

If financing is obtained, monorail officials hope to start building the extension in 2008 and finish by 2011.
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Old February 2nd, 2007, 02:32 AM   #95
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To improve ridership, build more hotels, casinos, big events right next to the monorail station where some of the empty parcels remain currently. I think the ridership is low due to lot of folks don't want to walk far from the station to the hotels, casinos and events which is on the busy main street. They're sort of like backyard trains.
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Old February 2nd, 2007, 04:58 AM   #96
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Why can't they just lower the price again? When I was in Las Vegas a few months ago, I wanted to ride it, but the price was way too high. It was cheaper, easier, and faster for me to walk.
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Private Operation. Revenues are more important than ridership and functionality. I applaud the idea to try and make it completely self-sufficient. But I wonder if in the long run this should have been a public project, and all the private businesses (read - casinos and hotels) simply had to learn to live with it. Many of them don't want to make it easy for visitors to go from their hotel to another casino. And the fact that the monorail is a private operation means they have to negotiate stops, and that they face competition from a public agency.
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Old February 5th, 2007, 05:07 AM   #98
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After much study, the Regional Transportation Commission chose bus rapid transit. For more information, see the following website.

http://www.rtcsouthernnevada.com/rfg/technology.htm
Good God! First the Irisbus Civis MAX, then the Bombardier Monorail, and now this BRT that uses the same crap buses as the MAX?? Geeze! Las Vegas is one screwed up town when it comes to transit. I'm glad I only go there for tourism purposes. I would never want to live and work in a town with a transportation system like this....
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Old February 7th, 2007, 04:36 AM   #99
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Wait, i thought there was an extension of the monorail to the airport?
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Old February 7th, 2007, 02:54 PM   #100
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an underground monorail is possible. :P They have monorails going thru tunnels in some parts of the cities in the world.
An example would be Tokyo's Airport Monorail. Once it reaches the island the airport sits on, it is underground for the last 3 (formerly last 2, soon to be last 4 when the international terminal opens later) stations.


I heard the original plan for the LV Monorail WAS to run above the main Strip itself above the road, but that proposal met vile viscious protests, reports say. I say the stupidity is not on the designers' parts, they knew what they were doing, it is the dumbass hotel/convention operators that protested the original design that need to shot.
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