daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > World Development News Forums > General Urban Developments > DN Archives



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old November 12th, 2007, 05:15 AM   #121
NearNorthGuy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 502
Likes (Received): 4

Don't massive parking garages exacerbate traffic congestion

This from an article in www.chicagocarless.com this weekend:

"......I am strongly rethinking my support for Brendan Reilly, the allegedly progressive Democrat who earlier this year won Chicago's 42nd Ward from longtime alderman Burt Natarus......As reported in Thursday's Sun-Times, Reilly will give the go-ahead for the $800 million structure to be built on one major condition...the hospital building a parking structure for 1,100 cars....."

As you can see, Alderman Reilly, while claiming that he will work to decrease traffic congestion in Streeterville, is DEMANDING a huge parking garage.

Memo to Alderman Reilly: A course in "Traffic 101" would teach you that massive parking garages will INCREASE traffic congestion in any given neighborhood.

Reilly either does not understand basic principles of traffic congestion OR he understands them but is giving Children's Memorial and Northwestern what they WANT. That means rather than what is best for that area.

What seems best ( and I am no transit expert) is to improve transit (e.g., a reworked circulator or bus-rapid transit route) and to have a smaller Children's Memorial garage. How much smaller I don't know, but certainly less than 1,100 cars.
NearNorthGuy no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old November 12th, 2007, 05:35 AM   #122
The Urban Politician
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,935
Likes (Received): 21

^ You know, I tend to agree, but I have always found hospitals (even in urban areas) to be incredibly car-heavy places.

Doctors are lousy about using transit, and often people arrive in groups, thereby in cars. Children will never be arriving alone, after all.

That being said, in my experiences in Streeterville, the cost of parking in those garages is quite high. It seems reasonable that a pretty sizeable percentage of people will arrive by transit
The Urban Politician no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 12th, 2007, 08:11 AM   #123
ardecila
Jack-Of-All-Trades
 
ardecila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New Orleans/Chicago
Posts: 1,391
Likes (Received): 2

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Urban Politician View Post
Doctors are lousy about using transit
Not Chicago doctors. Have you ever watched ER?

ardecila no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 12th, 2007, 06:11 PM   #124
NearNorthGuy
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 502
Likes (Received): 4

Quote:
Originally Posted by ardecila View Post
Not Chicago doctors. Have you ever watched ER?

I got a kick out of that post. OK, doctors do drive. Even doctors-in-training. These doctors often go to more than one place in a day. Furthermore, it makes logistical and financial sense, because of the time saved, for doctors to pay the high cost of driving and parking.

So, admittedly, doctors do need parking. But the support staff of the hospital can be encouraged to use public transportation. Likewise for some of the ambulatory patients. The problem is that public transportation to the Streeterville site is still not optimal.
NearNorthGuy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2007, 06:11 PM   #125
BVictor1
Chicago's #1 Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,186
Likes (Received): 886

Quote:
Originally Posted by NearNorthGuy View Post
I got a kick out of that post. OK, doctors do drive. Even doctors-in-training. These doctors often go to more than one place in a day. Furthermore, it makes logistical and financial sense, because of the time saved, for doctors to pay the high cost of driving and parking.

So, admittedly, doctors do need parking. But the support staff of the hospital can be encouraged to use public transportation. Likewise for some of the ambulatory patients. The problem is that public transportation to the Streeterville site is still not optimal.
It's 3 blocks from the red line, what's not optimal about that?

Anyway. does anyone here know the history of the Dunham Building in Streeterville? The year it was built or the architect. Someone was asking me, and I had no answer.
BVictor1 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2007, 06:49 PM   #126
The Urban Politician
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,935
Likes (Received): 21

Quote:
Originally Posted by BVictor1 View Post
It's 3 blocks from the red line, what's not optimal about that?
^ Well, the Red Line certainly isn't accessible to a heck of a lot of people who live in the suburbs.

Streeterville needs better transit connections to the downtown Metra stations (as well as other L lines) and even if that happens many people will still choose to drive.
The Urban Politician no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2007, 07:15 PM   #127
spyguy
Expert
 
spyguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,916
Likes (Received): 97

Quote:
Originally Posted by BVictor1 View Post
Anyway. does anyone here know the history of the Dunham Building in Streeterville? The year it was built or the architect. Someone was asking me, and I had no answer.
Built in 1926. Architect: DH Burnham & Co. Engineer: Charles Harkins
spyguy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 21st, 2007, 10:04 PM   #128
BVictor1
Chicago's #1 Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,186
Likes (Received): 886

Quote:
Originally Posted by spyguy View Post
Built in 1926. Architect: DH Burnham & Co. Engineer: Charles Harkins
Awesome.

Thanks
BVictor1 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 22nd, 2007, 09:18 AM   #129
ardecila
Jack-Of-All-Trades
 
ardecila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New Orleans/Chicago
Posts: 1,391
Likes (Received): 2

One thing I found out the other day - salvage rights for some or all of that fine building went to Urban Artifacts at Kinzie and Paulina. I don't think they've categorized the stuff yet.
ardecila no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 29th, 2007, 02:00 AM   #130
spyguy
Expert
 
spyguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,916
Likes (Received): 97

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/6...112807.article

Experts: Helipad atop Children's proposed hospital is 'high-risk'

November 28, 2007
BY FRAN SPIELMAN


Children’s Memorial Hospital’s plan to put a heliport atop its proposed, $1 billion hospital in Streeterville ran into more turbulence Wednesday: Safety experts hired by a community group concluded that a “hostile physical environment” with building obstructions and high winds makes the helipad “high-risk.”
spyguy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 29th, 2007, 03:22 AM   #131
The Urban Politician
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,935
Likes (Received): 21

^ Never ending stupidity

My God, I'm gone for a week and when I come back all I read is goddamn bad news. First the Spire, now this; all caused by NIMBY's
The Urban Politician no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old November 29th, 2007, 04:14 AM   #132
The Urban Politician
The City
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,935
Likes (Received): 21

On another note: I hope all this neighborhood opposition doesn't drive Children's Memorial into the suburbs
The Urban Politician no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 13th, 2007, 02:05 AM   #133
BVictor1
Chicago's #1 Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,186
Likes (Received): 886

535 St. Clair

Before:


After:


Remember, this updated design is subject to change.
BVictor1 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 23rd, 2007, 09:28 PM   #134
spyguy
Expert
 
spyguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,916
Likes (Received): 97

Some good and bad news

http://www.chicagotribune.com/classi...,4095622.story

Athletic Club is latest entry in luxury niche

By Jane Adler
December 23, 2007


The options for those seeking a luxury retirement building continue to grow. A new upscale age-restricted building is being planned at the former Lake Shore Athletic Club on the Near North Side. The circa-1920s building at 850 N. Lake Shore Drive that faced demolition will get an $80 million revamp, according to developer Matt Phillips.
....
The redevelopment will tap into the history of the building, said Phillips, president at Integrated Development Group, Northbrook. IDG's partner in the project is the National Electrical Benefit Fund, a pension fund based in Washington, D.C. The former club was the site of many local events, including weddings. Several of its large community spaces will be preserved, including a two-story 3,000-square-foot room that will be converted into the dining room. Another large two-story room on the second floor will be turned into a living room with multiple seating areas. The building's swimming pool will not be saved because Phillips said it wouldn't be suitable for residents.
spyguy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 28th, 2007, 07:01 PM   #135
WindyChat
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 38
Likes (Received): 0

DuSable Park Photos

Here are some photos of the DuSable Park construction at the far southeastern tip of Streeterville.
Taken from http://www.windychat.com/photos/cate...usable-park-7/


Click on each photo below to view or leave comments on individual photos.



September 29, 2007



October 6, 2007



October 28, 2007



November 10, 2007



November 17, 2007



November 24, 2007



December 1, 2007



December 15, 2007



December 24, 2007


Also see the Slideshow
http://www.windychat.com/photos/slid...o=show&slide=7
(click Start Show)

And combined shots of both the Spire Building construction and the DuSable park.
http://www.windychat.com/photos/cate...ire-dusable-6/

Enjoy!

Last edited by WindyChat; December 28th, 2007 at 07:43 PM.
WindyChat no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 28th, 2007, 09:54 PM   #136
ardecila
Jack-Of-All-Trades
 
ardecila's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New Orleans/Chicago
Posts: 1,391
Likes (Received): 2

Close-up of the cladding for 535 N. St. Clair

ardecila no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 28th, 2007, 10:39 PM   #137
spyguy
Expert
 
spyguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6,916
Likes (Received): 97

Nice find. I wonder why they seem to be using red a lot more in their designs.
spyguy no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 29th, 2007, 04:38 AM   #138
Sir Isaac Newton
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 346
Likes (Received): 0

This may be a dumb question, but what kind of work have they been doing at Dusable Park over the past few months?
Sir Isaac Newton no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 29th, 2007, 05:00 PM   #139
WindyChat
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 38
Likes (Received): 0

DuSable Park

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Isaac Newton View Post
This may be a dumb question, but what kind of work have they been doing at Dusable Park over the past few months?
They are building the park, it will not be a building.

I think it is being funded mostly by the Chicago Spire developer, but not sure.

Plans / layout including Spire:

http://www.neweastside.org/ChicagoSpire2007.html

More info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuSable_Park,_Chicago
http://www.dusableheritage.com/
WindyChat no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 29th, 2007, 10:14 PM   #140
BVictor1
Chicago's #1 Fan
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,186
Likes (Received): 886

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Isaac Newton View Post
This may be a dumb question, but what kind of work have they been doing at Dusable Park over the past few months?
Currently is being used for staging for construction of the Spire. There's still some remediation that needs completed as well.
BVictor1 no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 11:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

Hosted by Blacksun, dedicated to this site too!
Forum server management by DaiTengu