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Old August 10th, 2006, 11:27 PM   #121
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Seemingly such a large site and a complicated construction process.

Thanks for the construction updates wjfox2002.

It's going to prove a great tower for the London skyline, without a doubt
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Old August 10th, 2006, 11:40 PM   #122
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It's going to prove a great tower for the London skyline, without a doubt
Hmm... I'm not so sure.

I'm a bit worried about its bulk and the effect it will have on St Paul's cathedral.
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Old August 10th, 2006, 11:48 PM   #123
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Despite what I posted above your comment, your reply/opinion has to respected. Afterall, you are a Londoner.
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Old August 10th, 2006, 11:58 PM   #124
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Hmm... I'm not so sure.

I'm a bit worried about its bulk and the effect it will have on St Paul's cathedral.
and its too far from the main cluster...
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Old August 11th, 2006, 02:52 AM   #125
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I think we have to move on from this continued discussion on any new building in the city being related to the sightlines from an individual building such as St Pauls, there are many other equally interesting old buildings in the city, what about The Fire of London mounument? What about the city wall etc. New and old can be sited alongside each other and co-exist harmoniously, this has been the case throughout history, one parameter of a building such as height is one one parameter, tall does not mean un harmonious. Move on guys and build the city of the future not one of the past.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 12:22 PM   #126
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Being watching this buiding daily on the web cam as it is moving quite quickly.

I agree with Melanie B. Try to look at building in their own merit.

Does it matter that this building is too far away from the main cluster? In 10 years time it may be part of a bigger cluster.
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Old August 11th, 2006, 04:25 PM   #127
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Does it matter that this building is too far away from the main cluster? In 10 years time it may be part of a bigger cluster.
Ah, thank Christ. A man with some foresight!
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Old August 12th, 2006, 02:24 AM   #128
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its only about a 3 minute walk from the main cluster - though it looks a lot further

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Old August 12th, 2006, 02:40 AM   #129
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It isnt even a 3 minute walk... more like a matter of seconds! You'll be suprised at how close it is, from ground level anyway...
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Old August 12th, 2006, 05:51 PM   #130
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Being watching this buiding daily on the web cam as it is moving quite quickly.

I agree with Melanie B. Try to look at building in their own merit.

Does it matter that this building is too far away from the main cluster? In 10 years time it may be part of a bigger cluster.
The 'gap' between this building and the main City cluster can never be fully filled in, as it appears behind St Paul's Cathedral from the most famous viewpoint (Waterloo Bridge). The only hope is for a second cluster to form at the top end of Bishopsgate, perhaps on the goodsyard site.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 06:27 PM   #131
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It isnt even a 3 minute walk... more like a matter of seconds! You'll be suprised at how close it is, from ground level anyway...
eh? seconds? unless you're at a full sprint, I think not. The site of Heron Tower is 'seconds' from Crosby Court (site of Bishopsgate Tower, and Tower 42), but for Broadgate you have a five minute walk up along Bishopsgate past the start of Middlesex Street and Liverpool Street Station and the new Hammerson development at Spitalfields Market. Mind you, I only walk or cycle it in rush hour when the pavements and roads are crammed.

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Old August 12th, 2006, 06:30 PM   #132
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The 'gap' between this building and the main City cluster can never be fully filled in, as it appears behind St Paul's Cathedral from the most famous viewpoint (Waterloo Bridge). The only hope is for a second cluster to form at the top end of Bishopsgate, perhaps on the goodsyard site.
....which may happen as there are towers planned for the Bishopsgate goodsyards and Norton Folgate IIRC.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 06:45 PM   #133
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eh? seconds? unless you're at a full sprint, I think not.
Try it... I commute there regularly. And like i said you'll be suprised. Oh and by the way, dont take what i said so literally... "matter of seconds" = less than 3mins.
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Old August 12th, 2006, 08:06 PM   #134
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....which may happen as there are towers planned for the Bishopsgate goodsyards and Norton Folgate IIRC.
There was an enormous development mooted for the site with several towers ranging up to 70 stories some years back, but I think it was dismissed as being too big for the area... Someone with a better memory may be able to better inform you?
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Old August 12th, 2006, 08:18 PM   #135
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Northgate is a mixed-use tower being planned next to Broadgate and is thought to be around 180m/50 storeys. It's still in pre-planning, but from the information we have, it seems very likely to go ahead.





Then there's 30 Crown Place, an 80m midrise which recently began construction.

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Old August 12th, 2006, 08:22 PM   #136
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It isnt even a 3 minute walk... more like a matter of seconds! You'll be suprised at how close it is, from ground level anyway...
You must be a very fast walker.
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Old August 22nd, 2006, 08:14 PM   #137
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^ l like that picture of the skyline chest posted up there
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Old August 22nd, 2006, 10:18 PM   #138
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Old August 22nd, 2006, 10:39 PM   #139
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London's right though! It isnt that far! Whenever i come through Liverpool Street Station enroute somewhere if i have a few minutes i will take a walk down to the square with Aviva tower.

For a tower of this size, once you get to Liverpool Street Station on Bishopsgate i think it can be considered within reach, it will be visually very connected to the main cluster.

As for the St. Paul's views.... they are important. What we have here is the opportunity to maintain highlighting one of the most awesome cathedral domes found in any world leading city... and if we don't have to compromise that then i don't think we should.

St. Paul's doesnt stunt the city, it's the airport that causes heights to be cut down.

Further, the low rise elements caused by St. Paul's actually create wonderful dips that allow you to see what is around you. Once the current spate of towers has been built the views around the Liverpool Street Station area will be spectacular because you will be able to be so close yet still see alot of towers within one view. If there were towers everywhere you would of course be limited to what is immediately around you.
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Old August 31st, 2006, 10:12 PM   #140
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